EB2 Predictions (Rather Calculations) - 2012

[self.coach]

For EB3I applicants between 2004 and 2007 PDs (dates that are current for EB2 already) the difference between the 6 to 12 year wait they are looking at from now to get their GCs (very quick and dirty math) is already significantly worse than if they ported (current), so this recent move will make no difference. For folks from 2008 to 2010 PDs, they were already looking at 20 + year wait on average, so they too would have already been super motivated to port without the recent moves. So, the bottom line is, people from EB3I outside the 2002/2003 range that are not porting are not doing it for a reason. Either they tried and can't, or have other reasons to not want to (not keyed into the GC process at all, really love their jobs, are counting on their spouses filing under EB2, looking at returning anyway, etc). The recent EB2 movement is not a variable that will change any of these, in my opinion. The only variable I think that can change the equation is if the economy improves, and people can find alternative jobs more easily. Until then, I don't expect the porting number to go up from the 2K or so estimated recently.

Thanks, I was concerned after reading somewhere that Eb3 folks were paying 25-40K for porting to consulting companies (not sure how genuinely true it is..theyre from another forum). While I say that, just want to add a note I do hope the best for Eb3 folks, and I totally empathize their situation. If they do port to Eb2 may God give them GC fast, as they deserve it as much as Eb2 folks.

[self.coach]

Koreans opposed HR 3012.

In a letter for committee leaders, the Korean-American Scientists and Engineers Association said the law would create a two-year wait for Koreans who get science, technology, engineering or math (STEM) degrees from universities in the U.S. It urged the committee "not to force engineers from Korea to wait [an] additional two years in their immigration process to get green cards."

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...?taxonomyId=72

[soggadu]

Koreans opposed HR 3012.

In a letter for committee leaders, the Korean-American Scientists and Engineers Association said the law would create a two-year wait for Koreans who get science, technology, engineering or math (STEM) degrees from universities in the U.S. It urged the committee "not to force engineers from Korea to wait [an] additional two years in their immigration process to get green cards."

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...?taxonomyId=72

OMG OMG OMG.... what to do now.... shall we take them down ;-)....

interestingly they cant wait for 2 years when we wait for 4.5 years with same STEM degrees...

[vizcard]

Koreans opposed HR 3012.

In a letter for committee leaders, the Korean-American Scientists and Engineers Association said the law would create a two-year wait for Koreans who get science, technology, engineering or math (STEM) degrees from universities in the U.S. It urged the committee "not to force engineers from Korea to wait [an] additional two years in their immigration process to get green cards."

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...?taxonomyId=72

Really? 2 years? Ask Microsoft which nationality of immigrants owns the most patents.

[nishant2200]

Man this one I couldnt resist chiming in. The point made by the korean body is totally BS, you are saying you cant wait additional 2 years when similarly qualified people wait for much larger years. The argument doesn't hold merit.

Koreans are really eating away a lot of the EB2 visas anyways, since their family based is less.

Very intersting though was the read that IEEE USA supports this. In the past they have really hammered H1 and other employment based avenues of us getting in. This is a now or never thing in my opinion. This bill: This is it.

Koreans opposed HR 3012.

In a letter for committee leaders, the Korean-American Scientists and Engineers Association said the law would create a two-year wait for Koreans who get science, technology, engineering or math (STEM) degrees from universities in the U.S. It urged the committee "not to force engineers from Korea to wait [an] additional two years in their immigration process to get green cards."

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...?taxonomyId=72

[leo07]

This for sure will not hold water. Highly ridiculous argument to make to anybody to convince. It just shows how narrow minded they are and that's totally Un-American, if they ever want to become one. I'm sure America doesn't need such narrow minded, self-interested folks to blend in to make the society a worse place.

Koreans opposed HR 3012.

In a letter for committee leaders, the Korean-American Scientists and Engineers Association said the law would create a two-year wait for Koreans who get science, technology, engineering or math (STEM) degrees from universities in the U.S. It urged the committee "not to force engineers from Korea to wait [an] additional two years in their immigration process to get green cards."

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...?taxonomyId=72

[bieber]

Koreans helped the bill in my opinion, average EB2IC waits 5 years for green card, if everybodys wait time becomes 2-3 years what's so big deal about it

[leo07]

self.coach,

If you are asking about the fluctuation in number of 'Upgrades'( EB3 to EB2 ) this year over last year then: IMHO, upgrades would be less this year compared to last year. Simple reason is, people who are eligible and upgrade-able would have already upgraded in flocks by now. The remaining folks who would become eligible this year and waiting would be less, because they will have to quit their current jobs and find another one to file EB2. In any case, fluctuation and it's impact would be minimal on SOFAD, if that's what your concern is.

Best

You are right..I know the policy of not asking when our priority dates are due. I think I should have asked what my main concern was directly - wanted input on the chance of Eb3 porters clogging up Eb2 to an extent that Eb2 slows down or even retrogresses considerably.

[cbpds1]

just 2 more days to go , hope CO doesnt disappoint

[gcseeker]

cbpds1

I dont think the VB will come this week. All chances are pointing towards it coming on Wed 9th-Fri 11th at the latest.

Dec VB 2010-Released on Nov 10th (Wed)
Dec VB 2009-Released on Nov 9th (Mon)
Dec VB 2008-Released on Nov 6th (Thurs)
Dec VB 2007-Released on Nov 13th (Tue)
Dec VB 2006-Released on Nov 8th (Wed)

[nishant2200]

cbpds1

I dont think the VB will come this week. All chances are pointing towards it coming on Wed 9th-Fri 11th at the latest.

I disagree. The coming soon on the 1st of the month itself as well as CO's intent to move majorly forward in this holiday ended month, both indicate a release on friday the 4th, 10% chance of monday the 7th

Of course, anything can happen, but sharing my take

[gcseeker]

Nishant

Would be most happy if it comes sooner with the expected good news .You might be right since the CO might have already made up his mind based on the Murthy/Fragomen guidance

I disagree. The coming soon on the 1st of the month itself as well as CO's intent to move majorly forward in this holiday ended month, both indicate a release on friday the 4th, 10% chance of monday the 7th

Of course, anything can happen, but sharing my take

[nishant2200]

Nishant

Would be most happy if it comes sooner with the expected good news .You might be right since the CO might have already made up his mind based on the Murthy/Fragomen guidance

dude its getting difficult to pass time. Minutes passing like hours.

[pch053]

Just hold on to your patience a little while; tomorrow might be the day! In any case, your PD will certainly be current!

[jkrocks]

SKPANDA

Just a quick note:

I was planning to go to Bahamas in June 2011 ..booked my tickets/blocked my interview in Nassau Bahamas..for some reason i called up US embassy in Nassau and they told me they are not doing H1 B extension stamping..Once i got confirmation I cancelled my interview ...and cancelled tickets(loss 300 bucks because of change fees which airlines are ripping common people)..By the way i did do once extension in Nassau in 2007 and it was piece of cake and it is close to my place Tampa...So please check back with them and then go!..Good luck..

[vizcard]

SKPANDA

Just a quick note:

I was planning to go to Bahamas in June 2011 ..booked my tickets/blocked my interview in Nassau Bahamas..for some reason i called up US embassy in Nassau and they told me they are not doing H1 B extension stamping..Once i got confirmation I cancelled my interview ...and cancelled tickets(loss 300 bucks because of change fees which airlines are ripping common people)..By the way i did do once extension in Nassau in 2007 and it was piece of cake and it is close to my place Tampa...So please check back with them and then go!..Good luck..

My cousin called recently as well (in the last month). He got the same response.

[ChampU]

Hello Guys,

Pardon me if i am interrupting the flow of discussion.

I was convicted of a DUI in New Jersey in 2007. I have completed all the formalities and also have the court disposition letter. I have these questions:

1. Do I need to include the original court disposition letter (with the court seal) in my I-485 packet or is a notarized copy enough? Its not a big deal to get that letter, it costs about $20 and I can get it in 2-3 days.
2. I plan to include copies of the police report, court documents, course completion certificate, receipts and the disposition letter. Do all these documents need to be notarized?
3. DUI s not a criminal offense in NJ (At least it wasn't in 2007). I was not finger printed. I have my lawyer's letter that states this. Do I also include it in the packet?

It was a big big mistake in my life and I want to make sure that it doesn't have any adverse impact on the GC process. Are there any other steps that I need to take?

Thanks a lot!

[Waiting4Ever]

Hey Guys new to the thread....
PD:2/1/2011

2 Questions:
1. Assuming that the Fairness for immigrants bill becomes law. Guru's: How do you see the predictions change?
2. I am a people manager, never worked in India or else where. Is it possible to get to jump company and apply in EB1?(Desperation, Been on H1B for 8 years)

Thanks much..

[Eb2_Dec07]

I believe Friday next 11th is a federal holiday isn't it ?? So VB might have to come before that. My gut feeling is this friday is THE day folks.
I'm frantically checking the DOS VB webpage lot of times just in case ....

[sandeep11]

LoL...same here...

dude its getting difficult to pass time. Minutes passing like hours.

[Monica12]

Nishant, Gcseeker and others waiting to be current,
Hang in there buddies....praying for you guys..hopefully tomorrow is the day
Otherwise, next week for sure you guys will get electrified !

[Eb2_Dec07]

Hey Guys , for the filing of I 485 , we have an attorney and I was wondering , besides supplying the all paperwork , what forms are we as an applicant are expected to fill by ourselves.

[Eb2_Dec07]

I'll try to answer.

Q1) Please keep a minimum wait of 3.5 years assuming fairness act will turn in to a law. Remember 140K visa limit annually is not changing . So really hope for SOFAD to spill over to EB2 besides the fairness act guaranteed numbers.

Q2) I would be a little doubtful if you will qualify for EB1 . EB1 these days is under intense scrutiny and your employer should be big enough to have international engagements and your role should be broad enough to be an international executive . Most importantly your employer should really go all out to support your case to make it EB1 . Per my knowledge of EB1 cases , typically many dont qualify , however depending on how flexible their organization is pushing it for you , it is a great option if you can .

Hey Guys new to the thread....
PD:2/1/2011

2 Questions:
1. Assuming that the Fairness for immigrants bill becomes law. Guru's: How do you see the predictions change?
2. I am a people manager, never worked in India or else where. Is it possible to get to jump company and apply in EB1?(Desperation, Been on H1B for 8 years)

Thanks much..

[natvyas]

I just wanted to open up the topic of Demand Data, for discussion. IMHO the cumulative demand data for India and China (prior to 1 January 2008) should atleast remain the same (if not decrease) from the number of 2675.

What do you folks think?

[gc_usa]

I just wanted to open up the topic of Demand Data, for discussion. IMHO the cumulative demand data for India and China (prior to 1 January 2008) should atleast remain the same (if not decrease) from the number of 2675.

What do you folks think?

It will be Half down.