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    Quote Originally Posted by immi2910 View Post
    Does anyone have an offline copy of I-485 Employment-Based Inventory Statistics (updated May 3, 2012). The website has incomplete file.
    This is the link to the pdf for the latest version of the USCIS Inventory.

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    It looks complete to me.

    The csv format data imported fine for me as well.
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    it's been a while so trying my hand and mind at predictions again... this is what i think will we be looking going forward...

    Eb2 row accumulation before oct 2012 ~ 6500 for last quarter ( its a full quarter backlog and i am assuming 6500 consumption for EB2 ROW per quarter, we usually get around 12-15K from EB2 for EB2 I/C so around 25K used by ROW in 4 quarters)

    Come 2013, EB2 row will use 6500 + 25000 + 8k (already pending from inventory report for 2011 and 2012) = 39500 out of 40K allocated i.e. 5000 short ( as I./C will be allocated 5600 out of 40K)

    so EB2 row will continue to have a COD ??

    porting = atleast 2k more until 2007 end??

    No spillover from EB2 row come july 2013 and EB2 I crossing 2007 is only at the mercy of EB1 and other category spillover that too after EB2 row gets the first 5000...unfortunate numbers... i pray i am wrong...

    What do you guys think?? please prove me wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by soggadu View Post
    it's been a while so trying my hand and mind at predictions again... this is what i think will we be looking going forward...

    Eb2 row accumulation before oct 2012 ~ 6500 for last quarter ( its a full quarter backlog and i am assuming 6500 consumption for EB2 ROW per quarter, we usually get around 12-15K from EB2 for EB2 I/C so around 25K used by ROW in 4 quarters)

    Come 2013, EB2 row will use 6500 + 25000 + 8k (already pending from inventory report for 2011 and 2012) = 39500 out of 40K allocated i.e. 5000 short ( as I./C will be allocated 5600 out of 40K)

    so EB2 row will continue to have a COD ??

    porting = atleast 2k more until 2007 end??

    No spillover from EB2 row come july 2013 and EB2 I crossing 2007 is only at the mercy of EB1 and other category spillover that too after EB2 row gets the first 5000...unfortunate numbers... i pray i am wrong...

    What do you guys think?? please prove me wrong...
    I don't think it's wrong. Getting any SO from ROW will be great but at the very least I hope they don't have CODs. Personally I think they become C before year end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soggadu View Post
    it's been a while so trying my hand and mind at predictions again... this is what i think will we be looking going forward...

    Eb2 row accumulation before oct 2012 ~ 6500 for last quarter ( its a full quarter backlog and i am assuming 6500 consumption for EB2 ROW per quarter, we usually get around 12-15K from EB2 for EB2 I/C so around 25K used by ROW in 4 quarters)

    Come 2013, EB2 row will use 6500 + 25000 + 8k (already pending from inventory report for 2011 and 2012) = 39500 out of 40K allocated i.e. 5000 short ( as I./C will be allocated 5600 out of 40K)

    so EB2 row will continue to have a COD ??

    porting = atleast 2k more until 2007 end??

    No spillover from EB2 row come july 2013 and EB2 I crossing 2007 is only at the mercy of EB1 and other category spillover that too after EB2 row gets the first 5000...unfortunate numbers... i pray i am wrong...

    What do you guys think?? please prove me wrong...
    soggadu,

    Your EB2-ROW calculation would be correct if the ongoing Inventory dropped to zero, but that is not what will happen.

    The Inventory will always show a fairly similar figure, since processing is not instantaneous.

    Therefore your calculation would become 6,500 + 25,000 + reduction in Inventory

    The Inventory change could be positive or negative, but it won't be a big figure and EB2 -ROW should be within their allocation of 34.4k for the year based on your figures.

    For your information EB2-WW (EB2-ROW/M/P) used 32.9k visas in FY2009, 27.4k in FY2010 and probably around 33.3k in FY2011 (educated guess).

    Spill Across given by EB2-WW was 1.5k in FY2009, 9.7k in FY2010 and around 1.1k in FY2011.

    So I would agree that, in the worst case, EB2-WW will not give any spillover in FY2013 and may actually use some of that available from EB1/EB4/EB5.
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    This is a slightly unrelated issue more related to EB3C (and EB2C to some extent). I see the overall pending I485 apps for EB3C to be 2,423 and out of which only 683 applications are in 2005 and ~1K in 2006. So, won't it be natural to move EB3-C at the same pace with EB3-ROW; given the max per-country quota every year is 2866, they can easily approve far less EB3-C applications than the max # and bring it to the same level as EB3-ROW. The current PD for EB3-C is Sep'05 whereas EB3-ROW has progressed to July'06. I don't follow why EB3-C has a separate PD that is lagging behind EB3-ROW, given so few applications they have pending.

    Now, coming to EB2-C movement, going by the pending numbers the EB2-C PDs should be somewhere in the range of July - Sep'08 at the end of Sep'13. I think any spillover that will be available (from EB1, EB4, EB5 combined) will most likely go to EB2-I (assuming EB2-ROW is current; if not it goes to EB2-ROW first) as EB2-C will be moving ahead at a faster rate. I think in the coming years EB2-ROW will become current soon and EB2-C will have different PDs as compared with EB2-I (~6 months - 1 year ahead of EB2-I), though the major share of spillover visas (whatever, if at all available) will go to EB2-I.

    Have been out of this loop for a while and not very up to date with the current scenario; not sure whether my thoughts/predictions make sense!

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    pch,

    I think generally what you say is correct.

    A couple of comments.

    EB3-C has very high CP numbers. It has been about 30%, but jumped to over 55% in FY2010. It may take a bit longer than you think for EB2-C to reach the same COD as as EB2-WW. 12 months ago, EB3-C was 16 months behind EB3-WW. In July, they will be 10 months behind, but 3 months of the 6 months came in June 2012 alone.

    The difference between EB2-C and EB2-I depends entirely on the level of SOFAD - the lower the SOFAD, the bigger the difference in Cut Off Dates, because essentially EB2-I uses all spare visas, as you said.
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    Question EB2 IC Approvals after dates became U ???

    Guys ,

    I hear from my friends about some people they know with PD EB2 I after Aug 2007 getting approvals after answering RFEs.

    IS there any trend to these approvals . Any rationale for these approvals or is it just some kind of a mistaken approval .

    Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eb2_Dec07 View Post
    Guys ,

    I hear from my friends about some people they know with PD EB2 I after Aug 2007 getting approvals after answering RFEs.

    IS there any trend to these approvals . Any rationale for these approvals or is it just some kind of a mistaken approval .

    Thank You
    These might be the cases where a visa number is already allocated before VB became U
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    Article on Green Card Wait times

    http://www.nfap.com/pdf/NFAPPolicyBr...g.June2012.pdf


    Looks like the waiting time is going to be more than it is expected..

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    Quote Originally Posted by just_curious View Post
    http://www.nfap.com/pdf/NFAPPolicyBr...g.June2012.pdf


    Looks like the waiting time is going to be more than it is expected..
    Its just another paper with no new facts or additional "research".

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    Very informative for the new people to know the status. 70 years wait time. That is too much. I donot know why they do not implement STEM. Giving all the scolorships and yet no preference to US degrees?

    Quote Originally Posted by just_curious View Post
    http://www.nfap.com/pdf/NFAPPolicyBr...g.June2012.pdf


    Looks like the waiting time is going to be more than it is expected..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizcard View Post
    Its just another paper with no new facts or additional "research".
    Actually, yes there is new info. It counters the claim that the percentage of IC PhDs staying in the US is the same as it was before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizcard View Post
    Its just another paper with no new facts or additional "research".
    I don't think this statement needs to be necessarily true because I knew the statistics and facts that any policy analyst will go through to lay out the facts. The numbers behind it may not be reportable.

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    It seems EB2 ROW is going to be unavailable in upcoming bulletins and EB1 is going to have a cut off date. - source **

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    EB2-ROW with a PD of Jan'09 is almost equivalent to U; there are hardly (< 1K) any pending I485 applications for EB2-ROW with PD up to 31st Dec'08. EB1 having a cut-off date will probably imply that almost nearly all of the yearly quota (total of EB1 + EB2 and most of EB4 + EB5) has been exhausted.

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    I see approvals for eb1 on trackitt until the end of last week. I think it will quite unlikely for eb1 to become unavailable soon.

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    Question Predictions for 2013 Opening for eb2 I ??

    Gurus ,

    Any updates to where we will stand at the opening of 2013 and what is expected for EB2 India in the first 2 quarters of 2013 .

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    CIS Ombudsman Annual Report 2011

    The CIS Ombudsman Annual Report 2011 is now available.

    Other than a bit abaout EB5 and EAD delays, it looks generally uninteresting for EB applicants.
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    My friend who works in Cognizant (CTS) got his GC through EB1 category last week.

    140 - Filed in March and approved in April
    485 - Filed in April and approved in June.

    Quote Originally Posted by murali83 View Post
    I see approvals for eb1 on trackitt until the end of last week. I think it will quite unlikely for eb1 to become unavailable soon.

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    I'm interested in getting my hands on the number of I140 filings sorted by petitioning company. Does anybody know if it's already out there like it is for H1Bs? The PERM data is misleading because one PERM can lead to multiple I140 petitions. I'm curious as to what percentage of petitions are filed by Indian IT companies. I'm willing to file a FOIA request if that's what it takes but just wanted to see if it's already out there.

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    Experts,

    A weird situation, maybe someone can help me out.

    1. I work for Company A in a Role A. I have been with them for 6 years and they have done my perm and 485, etc.. I have my EAD now it will be 6 months since I filed my 485 by the end of this month.

    2. Now I have an offer from firm B in a Role B. Neither are the companies working in the same sector, nor are the roles related. So I assume using AC 21 here is out of the equation.

    What are my options if Company B will not sponsor a H1B. I have 2 possible solutions, can you guys tell me if they are legally possible.

    1. I convince Company A not to revoke my I-140 and go and start working for company B with my EAD. (I know this is extremely risky, but are there any LEGAL ways around it)

    2. With my EAD I can hold multiple jobs. Company A is a very nice and are very humane with the immigration aspect. So if I convince Company A that I will perform 2 jobs at the same time. Can I take a sabbatical from them for a year (get paid from my 401k/profit sharing, or even if I don't get paid from them, does it matter?) and go and work for Company B. If at any stage immigration issues an rfe or asks any question, can I submit a letter from Company A that I am still employed (technically sabbatical still means employed right?) with them and that they intend to employ me after I receive my GC (I will definitely go back and work for them for at least 6 months after my GC for this big favor).

    Is option 2 entirely legal and tenable.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated.
    Last edited by murali83; 06-19-2012 at 05:32 PM.

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    Murali

    If you convince company A for supporting you on any immigration issues, you can join B on EAD. But I doubt option 2 would work because you cannot prove the employment as described in the perm with A while working for B as a full time employee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    Murali

    If you convince company A for supporting you on any immigration issues, you can join B on EAD. But I doubt option 2 would work because you cannot prove the employment as described in the perm with A while working for B as a full time employee.
    Kanmani,

    Thanks for your response

    2 follow up questions. When you say, I can join B on EAD if company A agrees to support me on immigration issues. Lets say I get an RFE at some point and they ask for a EVL. What do I do?

    Can you explain further when you say "I cannot prove employment as described in the Perm". Is taking a sabbatical from company A violating the conditions of the Perm, or Is working full time for Company B violate the perm (even though I am still an employee with A on sabbatical).

    Thanks a ton
    Last edited by murali83; 06-19-2012 at 07:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murali83 View Post
    Kanmani,

    Thanks for your response

    2 follow up questions. When you say, I can join B on EAD if company A agrees to support me on immigration issues. Lets say I get an RFE at some point and they ask for a EVL. What do I do?
    EVL submitted for AOS purpose describes the job is still available for future employment. So you can submit one from Company A even if you are not employed with them.

    What do you mean by "I cannot prove employment as described in the Perm". Is taking a sabbatical from company A violating the conditions of the Perm, or Is working full time for Company B violate the perm (even though I am still an employee with A on sabbatical).

    I responded to this line of your op "can I submit a letter from Company A that I am still employed (technically sabbatical still means employed right?) "
    Suppose you get an rfe for EVL , I understand from the above that you wish to tell them that you have already taken the job(which is not required ) and still employed for the sponsoring employer. In that case you are not complying with the perm description (40 hrs per week)

    I have already discussed about leave on absence and in my opinion except for few medical reasons, the employment is not counted.
    Last edited by Kanmani; 06-19-2012 at 07:49 PM.

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    ^^ Kanmani

    Thanks a ton. I guess i can always get a letter from them for future employment from my current employer.

    Thanks for explaining the concept of aos and future employment. So i guess that seals my legal worries.

    You made my day

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