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Thread: EB2 Predictions (Rather Calculations) - 2012

  1. #5801

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    This guy must be laughing. First he shows demand virtually at zero and then doesn't move the dates.

    Anyway .. this was not far too unexpected ... but lets wait till we see the bulletin.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrdeeds View Post
    I got thru the number and can confirm non movement.
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  2. #5802

    April VB is out - Unfortunately no move to EB2 - India

    April VB is out - Unfortunately no move to EB2 - India.

    it is confirmed. I listened to recorded message on (202) 663-1541

    The Department of State also has available a recorded message with visa cut-off dates which can be heard at: (202) 663-1541.

  3. #5803
    I called the number and could listen to the complete Bulletion....he is correct, dates didnt move ....bulletion still not updated in the page

    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    He gave the phone number, I think to listen to the bulletin. Nobody is picking up the phone when tried.

  4. #5804
    I called the number too.
    IVR says for the month of April....
    (I was hoping it maybe the old IVR based on Mar VB)

  5. #5805
    Quote Originally Posted by qesehmk View Post
    This guy must be laughing. First he shows demand virtually at zero and then doesn't move the dates.

    Anyway .. this was not far too unexpected ... but lets wait till we see the bulletin.
    may be the decision is based on number of filings, and the expectation of demand by end of April

  6. #5806
    Quote Originally Posted by aGCHopefull View Post
    I called the number too.
    IVR says for the month of April....
    (I was hoping it maybe the old IVR based on Mar VB)
    The number just keeps ringing. I didn't hear any recorded message...
    NSC||PD Apr 18 2008||RD Jan 05 2012||ND Jan 10 2012||FP Feb 15 2012||EAD/AP Mar 01 2012 ||GC Approval Waiting

  7. #5807
    i think the IVR system is mssed up because of the HUGGGGEEEE volumes of calls that are being lobbed in no doubt... let's wait for the document to see if there is commentary.

  8. #5808
    Quote Originally Posted by RC_needs_GC View Post
    The number just keeps ringing. I didn't hear any recorded message...
    Their IVR also seems to be like another loooong wait. You need to be really patient with the number of rings it allows before it plays (or you hung up)

  9. #5809
    Is it normal for this much time gap between IVR and website?

  10. #5810
    I heard the recording. Yes, it is for April. Yes, dates did not move for EB2IC, they are at 1 May 10.

    I am assuming this completes the inventory build up for this fiscal year. In future, I am assuming dates will move primarily for inventory build up - provided that there is no retrogression. I think we should now move on to sizing the inventory build up and approvals in more detail by following trackitt trends and USCIS inventory even though we do not have mature enough data yet.

    I had discussed earlier that because Apr starts a new quarter, it would be interesting to see if Mr. CO changes gears based on the latest info he hears from USCIS. I guess USCIS has convinced him that they can process enough cases to consume the annual quota. If USCIS keeps pace, then we will be staring starkly towards a possible retrogression in Q4 with the July bulletin and hopefully not before that.
    Last edited by kd2008; 03-09-2012 at 01:42 PM.

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    Question for gurus - How does retrogression affect people at different stages? meaning - How does it affect somebody who has received AP/EAD vs somebody waiting for it vs somebody whose date is(was) current but whose file has not been touched by USCIS vs somebody who has CP scheduled vs somebody who has only received notice from NVC.

    If there is a thread or resource that explains this, please feel to point me in that direction.

  12. #5812
    in below in the bolds..
    Quote Originally Posted by bookworm View Post
    Question for gurus - How does retrogression affect people at different stages? meaning - How does it affect somebody who has received AP/EAD [he can avail of AP to travel freely without restrictions, dependants can use EAD to get SSN and work, primary can use EAD after 180 days of filing for AOS to change to same or similar job and inform USCIS of that] vs somebody waiting for it [if you were never current and waiting, continue the wait, keep extending your H1 visa, try upgrading to higher category]vs somebody whose date is(was) current but whose file has not been touched by USCIS [these will still get the AP/EAD eventually if not already] vs somebody who has CP scheduled [CP interview is only scheduled on the time when date is current, so retrogression will not affect a scheduled CP interview] vs somebody who has only received notice from NVC[he has to pay and wait, he won't be called for interview until he is current].

    If there is a thread or resource that explains this, please feel to point me in that direction.
    Last edited by nishant2200; 03-09-2012 at 02:27 PM.
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  13. #5813
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    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    in below in the bolds..
    Thanks Nishant. Appreciate your insight.

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  15. #5815
    Quote Originally Posted by transformer123 View Post
    Bulletin is updated on wiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priority_date
    China date shows 2011, is it accurate?

  16. #5816
    Transformer - anyone can update Wikipedia - so that in itself means nothing. But many people have listened to the IVR recording, so the unchanged date is official

  17. #5817
    Quote Originally Posted by transformer123 View Post
    Bulletin is updated on wiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priority_date
    Anyone can edit the dates on Wikipedia, so its not a reliable source.

  18. #5818
    the wiki page is just garbage - ppl just fooling around. now both are may 11.

  19. #5819
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    from the link...

    The dates for Apr 2012 have been updated in Department of State phone number (202.663.1541) but the visa bulletin is not yet out (as of 3/9/12 at 11:15 AM Pacific Time). EB2 India and China are at May 1st 2010. Some users keep undoing this change.




    Quote Originally Posted by bieber View Post
    China date shows 2011, is it accurate?

  20. #5820
    It shows May 1st, 11 for both I & C. But this is unreliable source - anyone can update it.

    Quote Originally Posted by bieber View Post
    China date shows 2011, is it accurate?

  21. #5821
    Quote Originally Posted by skpanda View Post
    from the link...

    The dates for Apr 2012 have been updated in Department of State phone number (202.663.1541) but the visa bulletin is not yet out (as of 3/9/12 at 11:15 AM Pacific Time). EB2 India and China are at May 1st 2010. Some users keep undoing this change.
    I was shocked to see people actually following wiki page to get the dates

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    Amazing

    Im not sure when Q first start this forum. But we are so far ahead is users compared to last year, its not even funny. There are 167 users on right now! and we have reached 240 pages already with not even 6 months gone and thats after having all these off-shoot forums. (FY11 had about 320 pages IIRC).

    Great job Q and others for keeping this forum relevant, fresh and most importantly useful!

  23. #5823
    convinced DOS just forgot to update the April 2012 link they have even put Mar 2012 under archives

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishnu View Post
    convinced DOS just forgot to update the April 2012 link they have even put Mar 2012 under archives
    they do that anyway.

  25. #5825
    Quote Originally Posted by vishnu View Post
    convinced DOS just forgot to update the April 2012 link they have even put Mar 2012 under archives
    Actually... I think its the other way round. They haven't forgotten at all. They just realized that people are hitting their server for the non-existent pdf file for April 2012 (which is typically available on the server before the VB in the HTML/webpage form). So they decided to send us a hint - "You think you are that smart that you can learn about the VB before we actually want you to??? Fine... from now on... start calling this number and if you wait for 15 minutes... we might be nice enough to tell you that your dates have not moved at all. [INSERT EVIL LAUGHTER] "

    At least "I" was hitting the link once every 0.0002 seconds!!!!! Never imagined there will once be a day in my life where I'll create a favorite/bookmark for a page that doesn't already exist on the Internet!

    The links that this genius was trying to use:
    http://travel.state.gov/pdf/visabull...in_Apr2012.pdf
    http://travel.state.gov/pdf/visabull..._April2012.pdf

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