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  1. #26

    New to Group

    Just wanted to thanks guys. You do an awesome job.
    I have been reading this forum for over a month and finally registered

  2. #27
    Q can your source provide some information about the release date of VB and movement of COD?

    Cheers
    Nat

  3. #28
    Veteren follower .. New to Post

    Guys I have been following this group for a while.. I always wonder how you guys find time to discuss every little piece of this puzzle in detail, even after getting greened.. I really don't worry about my PD anymore.. anything positive decision by USCIS helping my fellow buddies will always cheer me up.. sincerely thank every one this group for keeping everyone hopes alive

  4. #29
    gc_usa bhai, I hope your guess will come to true!

    keep fingers crossed!

    Quote Originally Posted by gc_usa View Post
    Hello Folks

    My Guess for EB2 IC is Feb 2008 in Nov 2011 bulletin. What do you think ?

  5. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by kd2008 View Post
    Oct 10 is Columbus Day which is a federal holiday. So DoS and USCIS will be enjoying a long weekend.
    wov! good find. if so, I believe in fact, there is more reason to CO to try to push for friday release of VB.

    All the consulates etc. all round the world, they all follow US holidays as well as local holidays (would love to work there). So in fact, if they don't publish on friday, for sure, it's no brainer it will be on late tuesday only.

  6. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by gc_usa View Post
    Hello Folks

    My Guess for EB2 IC is Feb 2008 in Nov 2011 bulletin. What do you think ?
    It may sound difficult, but you never know. it's anyone's guess now. Anything is possible if they intend to move dates just for grabbing inventory. Let's keep our hopes in check though, let's not get disappointed too much later. Prepare for worst case of say just one month move also, aside from dreaming of 2008.

  7. #32
    nishant bhai, congratulations to you! I just noticed you are upgraded to a guru!

    I think what you said makes perfect sense. The movement can range from 1 to 6 months. Anything is possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    It may sound difficult, but you never know. it's anyone's guess now. Anything is possible if they intend to move dates just for grabbing inventory. Let's keep our hopes in check though, let's not get disappointed too much later. Prepare for worst case of say just one month move also, aside from dreaming of 2008.

  8. #33

    Columbus day - Nov VB

    2010:

    Columbus day: Monday the 11th of October

    Nov VB released: Friday the 8th of October

    2009:

    Columbus day: Monday the 12th of October

    Nov VB released: Friday the 9th of October

    2008:

    Columbus day: Monday the 13th of October

    Nov VB released: Wednesday the 8th of October

    Now the interesting one:

    2007:

    Columbus day: Monday the 8th of October

    Nov VB released: Friday the 5th of October

    2006:

    Columbus day: Monday the 9th of October

    Nov VB released: Friday the 6th of October



    I randomly clicked on few VBs in past years, and definitely VB have been released before 8th, it's not a new precedent.

  9. #34
    Spec, Admire your work, Every assumption is quantified for its quality. You leave the numbers to have assumptions included without any footnotes.

    Q, The ecosystem that you created is great. There are parallel contradicting theories, but each is given its own space.
    Teddy, Nishant, you are the people who keeps the spirits high even when the odds are against us.
    With last week in Oct 2007 PD, i am anxious about next VB. I hope DOS random theory favor us.

  10. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    Prepare for worst case of say just one month move also, aside from dreaming of 2008.
    I will agree with this.

  11. #36
    I'm glad you took the time to check this out. So it is Friday then. All the very best to everybody who are anxiously waiting.

    Meanwhile folks, we have discussed so much about being 'slaves' and 'hostages'. Let us say you get your GC soon and you go on to start a business, please see if you can take this pledge. You don't have to sign this, but at least read the pledge and say to yourself that you will follow it.

    There are people, instead of learning something positive from the treatment meted out to them, have turned out to be an exact or worse copy of their former 'employers'. Let us create a positive environment for all folks who are involved.


    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post
    2010:

    Columbus day: Monday the 11th of October

    Nov VB released: Friday the 8th of October

    2009:

    Columbus day: Monday the 12th of October

    Nov VB released: Friday the 9th of October

    2008:

    Columbus day: Monday the 13th of October

    Nov VB released: Wednesday the 8th of October

    Now the interesting one:

    2007:

    Columbus day: Monday the 8th of October

    Nov VB released: Friday the 5th of October

    2006:

    Columbus day: Monday the 9th of October

    Nov VB released: Friday the 6th of October



    I randomly clicked on few VBs in past years, and definitely VB have been released before 8th, it's not a new precedent.

  12. #37
    I would say it's a very strong possibility based on past empirical evidence. thanks to kd2008 for pointing out the columbus day occurence that led to this simple analysis.

    Nothing can be said with certainty about these folks

    Quote Originally Posted by 10102007 View Post
    I'm glad you took the time to check this out. So it is Friday then. All the very best to everybody who are anxiously waiting.

    Meanwhile folks, we have discussed so much about being 'slaves' and 'hostages'. Let us say you get your GC soon and you go on to start a business, please see if you can take this pledge. You don't have to sign this, but at least read the pledge and say to yourself that you will follow it.

    There are people, instead of learning something positive from the treatment meted out to them, have turned out to be an exact or worse copy of their former 'employers'. Let us create a positive environment for all folks who are involved.
    Last edited by nishant2200; 10-03-2011 at 11:13 AM.

  13. #38
    Another point thought when comparing with FB intake of 2010. FB is mostly CP, so DOS has a much more calculated angle to it when moving dates for intake. This is not so for EB which is mostly AOS.

    This would also deem well for a larger intake.

  14. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    Soggadu bhai

    I very rarely write in Tamil and that too whenever I feel really frustrated.

    But Hindi translation request is genuine as we should not miss a single shade of humour from you and all others .
    point well taken....hey on that note...i belong to gulti land in south too.... i will try to use universal language going forward when ever applicable...

  15. #40
    Soggadu, can you translate "Uiiimaaaa". I love your languge man, keep it flowing. you can translate where possible.
    Leo; EB2I; PD: 11/01/2008; NSC; MD: 01/03/2012; RD: 01/04/2012; ND: 1/12/2012; FP Scheduled: 02/22; EAD/AP: 02/22; CPO email: 03/09/2012; GC 3/15/2012; what next???? India Trip????

  16. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by leo4ever View Post
    Soggadu, can you translate "Uiiimaaaa". I love your languge man, keep it flowing. you can translate where possible.
    yes Uiiiiimaaaaa = You I and mama....altogether explaining the pain of waiting for GC to your mama = Uiiiiiiiiimaaaaa
    Last edited by soggadu; 10-03-2011 at 01:55 PM.

  17. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanmani View Post
    This mama belongs to which langauge ?
    mama meaning mother in american.

  18. #43

    PWMB got there Green card approval..?

    just checking to see if any PWMB who got there GC approval..?

  19. #44
    Guys, this was just now posted by CM on http://us-non-immigrants.blogspot.co...54972175087536
    Here is an update from our lawyer friend.
    At this point his law firm does not have any specific update on the movement for the next visa bulletin movement and strategy of DOS. As per him from whatever he has gathered in past few weeks (nothing officially conveyed to them), he believes that “DOS strategically would like not to retrogress cut-off dates for EB2 India and China as long as possible, but rather move dates such that they can intake new demand without using excessive visa numbers than allowed. In retrospective, this means that next bulletin can bring none to one month movement at most, with bigger movement around December and January 2012 visa bulletin, where unused visas from current quarterly spillover and next quarterly spillover could be used rationally. Once that is done, cut-off dates may stall or retrogress based on total demand. Cut-off date for EB3- category will move as posted on the visa bulletin. EB3- ROW, Mexico and Philippines would move together for quite some time. Expected VB released date is Friday, October 7th”
    CM – Information is posted as shared. Please take it at your own discretion. Good Luck.

  20. #45
    Thank you for sharing. Of late, this guy's lawyer has been accurate. But this is the first time I am seeing he is saying it's just his belief and not semi-official. Otherwise his lawyer friend is more confident.

    Only rationale behind not doing the logic the lawyer friend is saying, is that I-485 AOS takes time to process. If they do a huge move, build inventory, and then do quarterly SO, that's very safe.

    Biggest good thing to know is that his lawyer friend also feels VB release date is October 7th friday, as we analysed here on this forum earlier today.

    Also if indeed this is done, it would be a big disadvantage, as the moves will be very calibrated and smaller, people would lose out on EAD/AP benefits, and DOS would be a mercy of USCIS 485 processing times.

    Looking at the current backlog of USCIS, I feel very surprised that DOS would trust USCIS to process 485s in 3 months.

    So this VB is the litmus test for DOS strategy. If they don't move or do a month move, we know where their intentions lie. But their truest intentions even in this case can only be known in their next (or next to next) quarter move then, where in they really face situation of no inventory, just relying on small moves to make inventory quarter by quarter basis.

    Also this would really turn out bad in the worst case SOFAD scenarios, as people who were expected to get EAD/AP, many of them would miss out.

    Positive is that many people would get GC faster rather than wait for a year always.

    I believe quarterly SO is good idea, but they should always build up inventories in advance. Now that would be smart and beneficial.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monica12 View Post
    Guys, this was just now posted by CM on http://us-non-immigrants.blogspot.co...54972175087536
    Here is an update from our lawyer friend.
    At this point his law firm does not have any specific update on the movement for the next visa bulletin movement and strategy of DOS. As per him from whatever he has gathered in past few weeks (nothing officially conveyed to them), he believes that “DOS strategically would like not to retrogress cut-off dates for EB2 India and China as long as possible, but rather move dates such that they can intake new demand without using excessive visa numbers than allowed. In retrospective, this means that next bulletin can bring none to one month movement at most, with bigger movement around December and January 2012 visa bulletin, where unused visas from current quarterly spillover and next quarterly spillover could be used rationally. Once that is done, cut-off dates may stall or retrogress based on total demand. Cut-off date for EB3- category will move as posted on the visa bulletin. EB3- ROW, Mexico and Philippines would move together for quite some time. Expected VB released date is Friday, October 7th”
    CM – Information is posted as shared. Please take it at your own discretion. Good Luck.
    Last edited by nishant2200; 10-03-2011 at 05:10 PM.

  21. #46
    Yes, I agree Nishant...His lawyer has been quite accurate recently but he doesn't sound confident this time. 3-4 more days to go and we will know the answer.

  22. #47
    Well summarized.I totally agree on all points.If the news is true DOS is trusting USCIS to work with 485 apps in a very short amount of time and this would be bad news for end of the year (2007 and early 2008) applicants.They would miss out on chance to file for EAD this FY.

    Well here it begins again....Friday (7th) should be a nailbiter . I would pray the gates are opened for a lot more people to atleast file 485 .

    Quote Originally Posted by nishant2200 View Post

    Also this would really turn out bad in the worst case SOFAD scenarios, as people who were expected to get EAD/AP, many of them would miss out.

    Positive is that many people would get GC faster rather than wait for a year always.

    I believe quarterly SO is good idea, but they should always build up inventories in advance. Now that would be smart and beneficial.

  23. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by gcseeker View Post
    ....If the news is true DOS is trusting USCIS to work with 485 apps in a very short amount of time and this would be bad news for end of the year (2007 and early 2008) applicants.They would miss out on chance to file for EAD this FY.
    Did you mean this CY (Calendar Year) instead?

  24. #49
    10102007

    Thanks for catching that.Yes meant CY .However if USCIS moves the dates very slowly without retogressing the dates ...the forward movement will be very unpredictable. CO would not have added the note about possible pipeline building and retrogression in the previous bulletin if he had no intention of doing the pipeline building.

    Anywaz right now the ball is in their court.It will be tough to sleep properly for the next few days.

    Quote Originally Posted by 10102007 View Post
    Did you mean this CY (Calendar Year) instead?

  25. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by gcseeker View Post
    10102007

    Thanks for catching that.Yes meant CY .However if USCIS moves the dates very slowly without retogressing the dates ...the forward movement will be very unpredictable. CO would not have added the note about possible pipeline building and retrogression in the previous bulletin if he had no intention of doing the pipeline building.

    Anywaz right now the ball is in their court.It will be tough to sleep properly for the next few days.
    Exactly. Already had a restless one last night.

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