General Immigration Discussion

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Originally Posted by soggadu

OMG... lot of Duvaa(issmoke) in the forums now a days...har koi, kissi aur pe jal raha hein... i understand guys all those EB1's or not passing bills is not fair... but come on, life mein kuch bhi toh fair nahi hein... Like WAITING bhai... Never comprmise, i recently met a guy, his wife was working in pharma with very good pay (nearly 5 figure) on H1... They deliberately shifted her to H4 for planning for kid (second one)...they are not old and they could have waited until GC and all...His PD will be current next month... But what he told makes lot of sense... Never mix anything in life with immigration if possible and let it go in its own track... I was very impressed with him... So people of the forum... Fight for your rights with pride but not with jealous or frustration and always LIVE LIFE KING SIZE...vuuuuiiiimaaaa ee toh bhashan ho gaya re baba....

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So today is going to be the last day for this thread ? I am waiting to welcome new thread with new energy in a new year (Ofcourse not CY but FY) tomorrow.. Lets do not have Duvaa on the new thread..

I am airing a good thought and a good prayer let all of US EB immigrants get a GC within 2 years from now. Let this Prayer happen. Sending good thoughts to every body to have a lesser conflict. and to weigh fulfilled and unfulfilled desires, keep the high ambition along with prayers.(and of course we need to do our part) Things will and should happen. Let everyone get their GC. Because suffering is the same for each one of us immaterial of category. And Politricks and economy along with lobbying is bad out there. And exploitation by so called Big consulting companies.. with greedy mentaity effects each one's life. Let us wish for a more peaceful, Free and Knowledgable life!

Excellent soggadu, that is true. I like this, I am going to put these kind of quotes on my wall, so i can read them to feel better

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Originally Posted by soggadu

OMG... Fight for your rights with pride but not with jealous or frustration and always LIVE LIFE KING SIZE...vuuuuiiiimaaaa ee toh bhashan ho gaya re baba....

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Originally Posted by soggadufan

Excellent soggadu, that is true. I like this, I am going to put these kind of quotes on my wall, so i can read them to feel better

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thnx dude...where have you been... also what is your PD?

I am hiding all this time, not missing any humor. My PD is Aug 2008. You are close to getting it right?

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Originally Posted by soggadu

thnx dude...where have you been... also what is your PD?

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Originally Posted by soggadufan

I am hiding all this time, not missing any humor. My PD is Aug 2008. You are close to getting it right?

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i dont know....mine is Oct 22 2007... not sure when but this FY for sure atleast to apply for EAD and AP...

Some interesting news from Ron Gotcher.

http://www.imminfo.com/News/Newslett...-comments.html
http://www.imminfo.com/News/Newslett...ed-effort.html

Basically he makes 3 points:
1. UCSIS may ask people to file amended H1B if they switch jobs. This is quite scary.
2. USCIS confirmed that H1 extension beyond 6 years continues to remain valid even if 140-485 gets rejected.
3. The whole PERM stoppage in last 2 months turned out a wasted exercise.

On the 3rd point - Surprise Surprise!! We keep telling you guys that the way backlog is eliminated is policy driven. note- As per 2012 this doesn't impact predictions. The PERM approvals throughput will remain the same its the timing of approval that will be affected.

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Originally Posted by needid

Q, The ecosystem that you created is great.

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needid, thanks for kind words. We were lucky that people like respectful and helpful environment. In terms of knowledge and intelligence, I think there already are people on this forum who are more intelligent and knowledgeable than me :)

Thanks for sharing.

For point 3, do you mean our backlog will be reduced quicker because of the pause of PERM?

How much impact can it cause? I remember the pause was from June 30th to September, right?

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

Some interesting news from Ron Gotcher.

http://www.imminfo.com/News/Newslett...-comments.html
http://www.imminfo.com/News/Newslett...ed-effort.html

Basically he makes 3 points:
1. UCSIS may ask people to file amended H1B if they switch jobs. This is quite scary.
2. USCIS confirmed that H1 extension beyond 6 years continues to remain valid even if 140-485 gets rejected.
3. The whole PERM stoppage in last 2 months turned out a wasted exercise.

On the 3rd point - Surprise Surprise!! We keep telling you guys that the way backlog is eliminated is policy driven. note- As per 2012 this doesn't impact predictions. The PERM approvals throughput will remain the same its the timing of approval that will be affected.





needid, thanks for kind words. We were lucky that people like respectful and helpful environment. In terms of knowledge and intelligence, I think there already are people on this forum who are more intelligent and knowledgeable than me :)

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qbf, i think there should be no impact of #3. It only impacts EB2ROW from SOFAD perspective. And since the numbers are relatively small ... 2 months impact is next to nothing.

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Originally Posted by qblogfan

Thanks for sharing.

For point 3, do you mean our backlog will be reduced quicker because of the pause of PERM?

How much impact can it cause? I remember the pause was from June 30th to September, right?

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LoL! So true!

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Originally Posted by 10102007

Wonder what the H in H1B stands for? Harassment?

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I am not sure but I think amendment would be revalidation rather than just saying this is same job different employer.

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Originally Posted by soggadu

applying for a new H1B (transfer ) is already in place when we switch jobs right... so whats new Q?

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Originally Posted by leo4ever

I think this rule is not applying H1B when chaging employer, but amending H1B when changing client (project) with the same employer.

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I do not know if that is true. But I wouldn't be surprised if it is. That would be yet another roadblock for legal immigrants.

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Originally Posted by codesmith

I agree somewhat!. Please watch cspan discussion held on 28th sep 2011, it seems many industry-academia leaders accept the fact that immigration policies need to be changed. However it would be interesting to see how does it take effect when the popular opinion is against the immigration.. even the legal immigration. Did you see California pack commercials during Republican debates ? Many groups/organizations are demanding the curb on legal immigration.
You can watch cspan discussion here : www.c-spanvideo.org/program/301798-3

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I really like your username: codesmith

This is so True, and it is happening

Source:-http://www.ilw.com/articles/2011,0927-algase.shtm

According to another Headline in the same ID issue, nativist groups are now ramping up their attacks on authorized ("legal", "documented") immigrants by trying to make them scapegoats for the bad economy and high unemployment. When have we heard this before? Open up a book about almost any period in American history.

What does this mean for the current administration and President Obama's re-election chances?Only one thing - no matter how many non-criminal immigrants he continues to deport, families he breaks up, American children he leaves without a parent or breadwinner; no matter how many skilled foreign professionals are denied approval of petitions or visas for no good reason or have them held up by meritless, politically motivated RFE's, the anti-immigrant right will never vote to re-elect Obama. There will always be a more extreme anti-immigrant position that the demagogues and hate groups will try to exploit.

I am not even mentioning the right wing nuts who think that Obama himself is America's "Illegal Immigrant In Chief". As the president himself says, even if he built a fence, the antis would want a moat. Even if he built a moat, they would want to put alligators in it. Then why is the president himself continuing to build a fence separating his Department of Homeland Security from any actions that would show real fairness, justice or compassion to minority immigrants? Why is he still throwing them in a moat with the twin alligators of deportation and unjustified petition and visa denials?

AC21 removed the country limit in quarter basis. Any leftover in each quarter should go to EB2-IC, but in the past the leftover didn't go to EB2-CI until each end of fiscal year. Here is a quote from this document:

"The American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act (AC21) removed
the per-country limit in any calendar quarter in which overall applicant
demand for Employment-based visa numbers is less than the total of such
numbers available."


Basically Mr.CO should have assigned visa numbers to EB2-CI on a quarter basis, but he didn't follow the rule.

I found the official link from USCIS:

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Immi...ation%20of.pdf

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Originally Posted by Kanmani

Nishant

we have diff meaning in our South Indian languages
Tamil - Uncle

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I think, nothing is going to happen, until economy is up and the unemployment goes back to 6% or 5 %, until that EB immigrants will be the political football!! that is the sad Truth everyone of us should accept, no amount of online petitions, nothing is going to work, Even though all these so called authorities knows what is the reality. they don't give any value to that.. that means our frustrations about GC will remain Until economy gorws and unemployment rates comes down. or we all join the Indian companies and apply on EB1 international manager category!!!

I can feel you my friend. I know what you are saying.

About the investment part I agree, US is right now trying to literally sell the EB5 GC like a car salesman to a "bakra" (meaning unknowing, literally translates to a male goat :) that has a different context) buyer. I had some little bit stuff in my IRA savings, and that is now in the negative. I have less money than my contributions, forget earnings. Totally screwed up by the stock market. I like your comparison to one big casino, very apt! I should have bought real estate in India. someone kick me in the backside... ouch.

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Originally Posted by ssvp22

And Q this is the sole reason i had mentioned the wrong doings of Qualcomm, Infy, Cognizant. When one has crossed over to the right side of GC, he/she suddenly does not feel the stress anymore, and one feels entitled to act like a mahatma giving sermons of right and wrong. Please note that neither i am not angry of the discussion last week and nor making pun. All this is a pretty human way of reacting to a situation. But when you are in the shoes of someone who cannot take a new job, cannot take a new contract, your PD even though so near, feels like light years away.

@nishant i IMHO, someone would be out of hid mind to invest $500k to $1 million to invest in US via EB5. Past few years of stock market has shown that anything you put over there, just gets taken off pretty soon and you are left with a red colored TD account. That is the sole reason big companies are stock piling their billions and not investing 'cause the whole system has become a one big casino.

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Kingcaesar

AC-21 Memo

http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Laws/Memo...ntrm122705.pdf

Just to add to the information.

1.AC-21 can be invoked after your 485 has been pending after 180 days .Rule says you must be granted the EAD before that.
2.It is not be intrepreted as waiting for 180 days after EAD has been received.
3.Your friend might not have been confused.He might have filed concurrently his I-40 and I-485 and in his case 180 days from either I-40 or I-485 would be same.However still I-140 approval would be necessary to invoke AC-21.

I would not recommend doing an AC-21 even after 180 days in the current economy with so many questions nowadays being raised about portability and occupational classification codes etc.Just wait till the whole thing is over.

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Originally Posted by kingcaeser

Dear Friends!
I was always under the impression that one should be with the employer for a 180-day period after receiving the EAD. But a friend rubbished my opinion and said it is at least 180 days after approval of I-140 (which I already had). Is this correct? Could anyone please advise? In this case, when can I change jobs? after filing I-485 or After getting EAD? BTW: My PD is 17-sep-2007.

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Originally Posted by gcseeker

I would not recommend doing an AC-21 even after 180 days in the current economy with so many questions nowadays being raised about portability and occupational classification codes etc.Just wait till the whole thing is over.

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Exactly. I read in murthy.com that even after getting your GC, it is better to stick with the same employer for 6 months to 1 year to avoid any issues during naturalization process, if anyone wishes to get that far.

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Originally Posted by 10102007

Exactly. I read in murthy.com that even after getting your GC, it is better to stick with the same employer for 6 months to 1 year to avoid any issues during naturalization process, if anyone wishes to get that far.

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My friend took a paid phone consultation with murthy firm and was advised same thing.

The root of all these things is: a re-balance between developed countries and developing countries.

People in developing countries have been working hard for many years and they deserve more. The wealth is going to the developing countries now.

In US I found many people are very lazy and don't do much work, but they are making thousands of dollars. Do you think this will last forever?

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Originally Posted by gcseeker

I too feel what ssvp22 is saying.It still gets my blood pressure very high and that is the sole reason avoid thinking about the EB1C fraud and other visa frauds.

The experience of the past ten years has taught me nothing will be done by the authorities.Tons of reasons( Anti Immigrant sentiment,economy,Lobbying,Companies which are actively participating in this ponzi scheme )

Anywaz on the topic of the stock market.Just some general advice.

1.The days of buy and hold are long gone.These are the days of HFT ( high frequency trading) .
2.The only ones that benefit from this market are day traders in general and big money.
3.If you are not playing options you will not get to short the market.
4.US recession is 200% sure with the current crisis in Greece.If the greek bullet misses ...next in line will be the PIGS countries.
5.Even if Europe is saved there are sufficient structural problems in the US itself ( Copper down,Railroads down...Unemployment sky high....Fed printing money) .

Anywaz I just hope it contributes something to the SOFAD.

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Originally Posted by kingcaeser

Dear Friends!
I was always under the impression that one should be with the employer for a 180-day period after receiving the EAD. But a friend rubbished my opinion and said it is at least 180 days after approval of I-140 (which I already had). Is this correct? Could anyone please advise? In this case, when can I change jobs? after filing I-485 or After getting EAD? BTW: My PD is 17-sep-2007.

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If you are getting a good opportunity then talk to your current employer and tell him that you will be interested in filing the 485 with them. If your employer agrees, then transfer H1, and while working with the new employer you can file 485 with your old employer
(when your PD gets current).

Now if your 485 gets approved before 180 days of filing then you must join your old employer after GC approval. Or else, if your 485 doesn't get approved for 180+ days, then you can file AC21 and continue to work with new employer even after getting GC approval (with old employer).
Hope I am making sense here.
Gurus: What could be the risks involved in this scenario?

Apologies for being off topic on this but saw an interesting article in the news today and couldn't resist sharing with the group.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...gration-reform

Call me an (overly) optimistic if you want but I feel like relief for folks like us is on the way. Within a year there will be some major changes to the legal immigration system and there will not be any retrogression within EB2 category. I am seeing appetite building on both sides of the isle to make changes to legal immigration system.
Thanks!

ssvp you don't seem to be interested in any fruitful discussion. You are quite frustrated with EB1C and I understand that and I respect your opinion. But you initially attacked me and even after I gently responding you are doing the same again by saying this is my forum. I repeat, I have always opposed any ill talk about any EB or FB category even when I didn't have a GC.

You are damn right about one thing though. This is my forum and one thing that I have always gone long lenths is preserving the freedom of speech. However, if you care to trace my behavior I am not one shy for fight because there many such scumbags like you on some of the other forums and people on this forum are sick of that culture and that is why they come here.

I just hate that you have just wasted precious few minutes of such readers who will end up reading my response to you. And I don't want that to happen again. So good luck to you and I say without any regrets that you are not welcome to post here to even visit here. Go figure your GC path yourself. You seem to have pretty good handle on it.

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Originally Posted by ssvp22

Q, i am not making personal attack. All i am saying is that once you are no longer under a situation, it is very hard to understand the stress and situation of other person. This is basic human nature. Its the same for me. For the people who are in this situation right now, it has become like people on ladder pulling the leg of the one on top, and the players are - Recession - INS - and and People without GC.

Also its not about making a point on EB1C and moving on. From my experience and perception, this forum is about forming opinion, analyzing contradicting opinions, and if possible contribute(vote on bills) and take decisions(on personal level till now - like getting medical done....). In the case of EB1C, it is a rampant abuse of law that is happening and people and media need to be aware of that. And from the discussion till now, quite a few people agree to that. And till the time abuse impacts people personally, there cannot be a moving on scenario. If you really want to treat it as your forum, so be it, and i can call it quits on the EB1C issue.

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Oh wow Q! Never saw you worked up so much. Seems like the guy got to you. Just ignore him (easier said than done, especially after a tiring work day). Most of us spend so much time here that we love you and don't want to see you get upset.

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Apologies for being off topic on this but saw an interesting article in the news today and couldn't resist sharing with the group.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...gration-reform

Call me an (overly) optimistic if you want but I feel like relief for folks like us is on the way. Within a year there will be some major changes to the legal immigration system and there will not be any retrogression within EB2 category. I am seeing appetite building on both sides of the isle to make changes to legal immigration system.
Thanks!

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I think i am more kind of pessimist on legal immigration... I read such articles everyday and i lost confidence if anyone is really intrested in legal immigration. But i will the happiest person if something good can happen to us..

me too. These proposals have been discussed since 2007, but nothing happened in the past four years. I hope they can do something to help out the legal immigrants with late PDs. Many families need a huge relief!

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Originally Posted by leo4ever

I think i am more kind of pessimist on legal immigration... I read such articles everyday and i lost confidence if anyone is really intrested in legal immigration. But i will the happiest person if something good can happen to us..

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What blows me away is this! If I had $500K to invist in a business in US, roughly translated 2.5 crores in Inidan Rupees liquid assets or free cash, I would setup the same business in a growing economy like India and also I will live a lavish life there with helpers and handy-man's at disposal than coming over to US and working on the logistics on my own. So the EB5 is for someone who made and saved that much money while in US and then planning to go indepenent. And I guess my the time someone saves that much, they would have alredy been greened. So EB5 would not make sense - my thoughts.

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Originally Posted by nishant2200

I can feel you my friend. I know what you are saying.

About the investment part I agree, US is right now trying to literally sell the EB5 GC like a car salesman to a "bakra" (meaning unknowing, literally translates to a male goat :) that has a different context) buyer. I had some little bit stuff in my IRA savings, and that is now in the negative. I have less money than my contributions, forget earnings. Totally screwed up by the stock market. I like your comparison to one big casino, very apt! I should have bought real estate in India. someone kick me in the backside... ouch.

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i see the expectations rising again like mercury during indian summer... chil out bro's and sister's of those bro's... every time expectations are high, the VB is going bad...

Srimurthy

Definetly your perspective makes sense for many of us . Q had posted an article from msnbc which talked about the desire of many rich chinese and europeans who had made a lot of money but desired the explore the life in a western society for its appeal of an open culture and were using the EB5 to immigrate to the US.

EB5 makes huge sense for these people.Also this trend will increase with the increase of wealth in Asia .

From the Time magazine.

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...077139,00.html

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Originally Posted by srimurthy

What blows me away is this! If I had $500K to invist in a business in US, roughly translated 2.5 crores in Inidan Rupees liquid assets or free cash, I would setup the same business in a growing economy like India and also I will live a lavish life there with helpers and handy-man's at disposal than coming over to US and working on the logistics on my own. So the EB5 is for someone who made and saved that much money while in US and then planning to go indepenent. And I guess my the time someone saves that much, they would have alredy been greened. So EB5 would not make sense - my thoughts.

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I also keep thinking aboutthe same logic you laid out below. But then sometimes I think people really value the peace, freedom and openness after they have attained a minimum stability in life.

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What blows me away is this! If I had $500K to invist in a business in US, roughly translated 2.5 crores in Inidan Rupees liquid assets or free cash, I would setup the same business in a growing economy like India and also I will live a lavish life there with helpers and handy-man's at disposal than coming over to US and working on the logistics on my own. So the EB5 is for someone who made and saved that much money while in US and then planning to go indepenent. And I guess my the time someone saves that much, they would have alredy been greened. So EB5 would not make sense - my thoughts.

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I agree. I know the US agencies are promoting this EB5 program in China. Many rich people moved here for the less crowded environment. It is very crowded in China especially in big cities. Usually it's difficult to find a seat in McDonalds and the speed on local roads with serious traffic jam is less than 20MPH in Beijing. The parking facilities are also very limited. A tiny 1000 sqft apartment in Beijing can cost 300k-400k USD. I heard many rich people really want to drive on the American highway and buy fancy houses in USA, which are much nicer. Because they are rich, so they can spend 6 months in US and 6 months back home, really enjoy themselves and don't feel lonely. Small guys like myself have to keep working and enjoy one month vacation under employer's mercy. Life is boring and lonely.

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Originally Posted by gcseeker

Srimurthy

Definetly your perspective makes sense for many of us . Q had posted an article from msnbc which talked about the desire of many rich chinese and europeans who had made a lot of money but desired the explore the life in a western society for its appeal of an open culture and were using the EB5 to immigrate to the US.

EB5 makes huge sense for these people.Also this trend will increase with the increase of wealth in Asia .

From the Time magazine.

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...077139,00.html

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Got it, any idea if we have stats that break up EB5 Approval numbers on Country basis! Also I grew up with the notion that Europe is also a western society, also heard its more beautiful. never got a chance to travel there.. and hoping to do so after getting greened.

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Srimurthy

Definetly your perspective makes sense for many of us . Q had posted an article from msnbc which talked about the desire of many rich chinese and europeans who had made a lot of money but desired the explore the life in a western society for its appeal of an open culture and were using the EB5 to immigrate to the US.

EB5 makes huge sense for these people.Also this trend will increase with the increase of wealth in Asia .

From the Time magazine.

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...077139,00.html

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qblogfan

You hit the nail on the head and definetly your perspective of having lived there helps.I too agree this trend will only increase with time and it is an natural outgrowth of wealth being spread.

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I agree. I know the US agencies are promoting this EB5 program in China. Many rich people moved here for the less crowded environment. It is very crowded in China especially in big cities. Usually it's difficult to find a seat in McDonalds and the speed on local roads with serious traffic jam is less than 20MPH in Beijing. The parking facilities are also very limited. A tiny 1000 sqft apartment in Beijing can cost 300k USD. I heard many rich people really want to drive on the American highway and buy fancy houses in USA, which is much nicer. Because they are rich, so they can spend 6 months in US and 6 months back home, really enjoy themselves. Small guys like myself have to keep working and enjoy one month vacation under employer's mercy.

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10102007

:) Fav song of mine from Baba ( actually love the movie as well since it dared to potray an metaphysical subject in a commercial venture...) .Actually gonna listen to it since you reminded me .

Wishing good luck to everybody.

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Originally Posted by 10102007

'thalaivar' (leader/ head/ chief) Rajni takes it one step further. He says everything is maaya and 'chaya' (shadow). Nothing is real. Geez..it's scary.

I think we should start telling people that only the flight ticket is in your control. Everything else - visa, H1 stability, GC etc. - is bonus or maaya.

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Got it, any idea if we have stats that break up EB5 Approval numbers on Country basis! Also I grew up with the notion that Europe is also a western society, also heard its more beautiful. never got a chance to travel there.. and hoping to do so after getting greened.

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srimurthy,

Figures here http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...-Statistics%29 will give you an idea.

If you want the full breakdown go here http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/sta...tics_5240.html You will find the breakdown in Table V, Part 3 e.g for FY2010 http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY10...eV-PartIII.pdf

Generally China and ROW consume virtually all the visas issued.

I'll be more than happy for people who find a way to get GC quickly. This process is really big pain, we loose so much, we postpone everything/anything until GC is in hand, that's too bad. That's why i am happy for people who could get it faster, they may be finding shortcuts, no body is stopping anybody in finding one, They are taking risk.We don't want to take risk and play by rules and ready to suffer. So rather than having other feeling be happy for people who could find a way to get out of this mess.
The country limit is a mess, some countries don't even have a workforce that is the size of Graduates from India and China put together.My colleague could start GC process after one year of my I-140 approval and everything done in 1 and half year. After his I-140 approval i asked him when are you filing I-485, his answer is i'll file after few months, anyway it is current all the time. That is a luxury, IC could never afford to enjoy. I see people rushing here and there to keep everything ready in 20 days , always worrying about the next VB.
Nobody is taking ours, they would have suffered like us if not for that short cut. Be happy.
PS:I am yet to my I-485.And none of my buddies/relatives gone through short cuts.

needid

You shared your opinion honestly and I am going to respect it and share mine plainly as well. This is an topic that will invite much heated responses and I do not wish to prolong this much further at a time when many are waiting for the VB.

I will simply put it this way. What is the difference between this and corruption in India. So everybody willing to take an bribe and willing to give an bribe is sleeping happily and getting something they did not deserve.Everybody else worrying for years to get an job, pay his dues , pay their taxes and wait in line patiently is an fool who could not do the research to find those loopholes and deserves that fate.

I will never in my life agree with such an logic.I am happy to be an fool and not trample on other's live's blatantly in search of my own selfish happiness.

Again I do not wish to prolong this topic ,just am tired of this logic of defending people who exploit shortcuts as some entrepreneur's trekking to the north pole.It takes guts to stick to the rules.Any damn coward can bribe his way out of the system.It is not an question of being happy for those people jumping lines...imagine if everybody did that ...then you will have pretty much the law of the jungle ruling societies.

Where does one draw the line.

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Originally Posted by needid

I'll be more than happy for people who find a way to get GC quickly. This process is really big pain, we loose so much, we postpone everything/anything until GC is in hand, that's too bad. That's why i am happy for people who could get it faster, they may be finding shortcuts, no body is stopping anybody in finding one, They are taking risk.We don't want to take risk and play by rules and ready to suffer. So rather than having other feeling be happy for people who could find a way to get out of this mess.
The country limit is a mess, some countries don't even have a workforce that is the size of Graduates from India and China put together.My colleague could start GC process after one year of my I-140 approval and everything done in 1 and half year. After his I-140 approval i asked him when are you filing I-485, his answer is i'll file after few months, anyway it is current all the time. That is a luxury, IC could never afford to enjoy. I see people rushing here and there to keep everything ready in 20 days , always worrying about the next VB.
Nobody is taking ours, they would have suffered like us if not for that short cut. Be happy.
PS:I am yet to my I-485.And none of my buddies/relatives gone through short cuts.

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Thanks Spec, the numbers make sense and support the thoughts. Also the more time I spend here I am able to understand those numbers better. After I created a profile here, I took my own time, infact still taking my own time to understand each and every fact that is laid out there. Since I have a lot of time with PD in 2010, I hope to digest every number crunching the fab 5 are doign all the time ;-)
I am in no hurry as I know this is the path I took and will focus more on maintaining the status and job than worrying why some category is getting more or less visas. Meanwhile keep contributing to any votes, donations on the senators part where they can push some bill that will ease the wait times for EB2 and EB3.

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srimurthy,

Figures here http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...-Statistics%29 will give you an idea.

If you want the full breakdown go here http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/sta...tics_5240.html You will find the breakdown in Table V, Part 3 e.g for FY2010 http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY10...eV-PartIII.pdf

Generally China and ROW consume virtually all the visas issued.

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Originally Posted by needid

I'll be more than happy for people who find a way to get GC quickly. This process is really big pain, we loose so much, we postpone everything/anything until GC is in hand, that's too bad. That's why i am happy for people who could get it faster, they may be finding shortcuts, no body is stopping anybody in finding one, They are taking risk.We don't want to take risk and play by rules and ready to suffer. So rather than having other feeling be happy for people who could find a way to get out of this mess.
The country limit is a mess, some countries don't even have a workforce that is the size of Graduates from India and China put together.My colleague could start GC process after one year of my I-140 approval and everything done in 1 and half year. After his I-140 approval i asked him when are you filing I-485, his answer is i'll file after few months, anyway it is current all the time. That is a luxury, IC could never afford to enjoy. I see people rushing here and there to keep everything ready in 20 days , always worrying about the next VB.
Nobody is taking ours, they would have suffered like us if not for that short cut. Be happy.
PS:I am yet to my I-485.And none of my buddies/relatives gone through short cuts.

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Taking shortcuts may give one immediate happiness or pleasure but how about USCIS finds the loop hole and revoking the GC or Citizenship of those who got the green card /citizenship in this easy loop hole way. that is more scary than waiting in line.

Hope the everybody gets what they want and there is absolute PEACE!

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Originally Posted by needid

I'll be more than happy for people who find a way to get GC quickly. This process is really big pain, we loose so much, we postpone everything/anything until GC is in hand, that's too bad. That's why i am happy for people who could get it faster, they may be finding shortcuts, no body is stopping anybody in finding one, They are taking risk.We don't want to take risk and play by rules and ready to suffer. So rather than having other feeling be happy for people who could find a way to get out of this mess.
The country limit is a mess, some countries don't even have a workforce that is the size of Graduates from India and China put together.My colleague could start GC process after one year of my I-140 approval and everything done in 1 and half year. After his I-140 approval i asked him when are you filing I-485, his answer is i'll file after few months, anyway it is current all the time. That is a luxury, IC could never afford to enjoy. I see people rushing here and there to keep everything ready in 20 days , always worrying about the next VB.
Nobody is taking ours, they would have suffered like us if not for that short cut. Be happy.
PS:I am yet to my I-485.And none of my buddies/relatives gone through short cuts.

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Needid, you shouldnt be happy for people who get GC fast ( they will have some other reason to postpone things ), you should be happy for people who dont procrastinate important things in life until GC in hand... I know lot of people might not agree with me ( i was one of them till recently ), but it is very easy to not mix the way of life and GC... have seen it to believe it...

Going in shortcuts is not considered taking risk morally, please understand not everyone is afraid of risks but want to live with ethics... i know a lot of my friends who dont want to cheat on resume, not because they cant support it, just because they dont want to do it...DOT...

The grass is greener on the other side always dear... i would say dont worry about ROW getting GC's soon... if you are in for a long wait, these feelings will only multiply the frustration... if a little boy in somalia questions why he was not born in a rich family in india, there is no answer... its the karma, if you want to believe in one... move on brother...

i dont write/lecture in this way normally, but now a days i am seeing lot of frustration in people for things which are not in their control... chill out people.... life is more beautiful than this...

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Originally Posted by soggadu

but it is very easy to not mix the way of life and GC...

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No It is not that easy ......particulary if the applicant has a lot of commitments backhome .

understand offshore responsibilities make life little harder but once you accept certain things, it will at least not turn into frustration which i was trying to point out and also, getting a GC can only get you in and out of country (which even H1 or ead can also achieve it for you ) freely and nothing else...ask your GC friends... my main response was to the Needid's idea... PM me for more discussions :-) ...

The problem is it's not easy for everybody to travel with H1B.

Firstly, for Chinese nationals, the H1B visa is only valid for 3 months and we have to get stamped almost every time. In Beijing we have to make appointments one month earlier. For the workers in the senstive fields, the US embassy will check background for 1-6 months. I have been checked last time and I almost missed my flight. Many friends had to change their tickets. One guy got checked for 6 months and he lost his job of course. It's a lot of hassle to travel back without a GC. If I get a GC, I can take short trips like 2 or 3 weeks and visit my family more often. But now I can't take these short trips, every time I have to take 1 month or more.

Secondly, We are all under the employer's mercy without GC. Sometimes we really want to change our jobs immediately, but we can't do that without GC. We have to keep our head down and pretend we are happy. If we have a GC, we can stand up in front of the employers. I think many of us have been mistreated by the employers, but we can't fight back because we are under their mercy. Every time we back up and don't have the courage to fight for what we deserve.

These are the two reasons why a GC can make a huge difference.

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Originally Posted by soggadu

understand offshore responsibilities make life little harder but once you accept certain things, it will at least not turn into frustration which i was trying to point out and also, getting a GC can only get you in and out of country (which even H1 or ead can also achieve it for you ) freely and nothing else...ask your GC friends... my main response was to the Needid's idea... PM me for more discussions :-) ...

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