Birth Certificate Related

I posted this in the I485 related forum however didn't get any response. Mods please move this if necessary. Thanks for any help.
Greetings and congratulation to all who have become current also wish others good luck.
I have become current now (11/18/09). I was born at home so no birth certificates. My mother always used two different names for herself. So when i applied for passport i have name A listed as mother's name. However, i asked my father to get a birth certificate for me, when inquired, the municipal will only issue a birth certificate with name B as it's listed in the ration card right now.
What should i do?. Get a birth certificate with name B listed as mother and get an affidavit from my parents as well.
Thanks a lot.

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Originally Posted by vizcard

Caveat being affidavits from India (if applicable). I had them notarized by a lawyer there with my parents signatures.

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What bond paper was used? was it Rs100 or more?

For Birth Certificate Affidavits what bond paper to use? Rs 20? Rs 100?

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Originally Posted by tendlya

For Birth Certificate Affidavits what bond paper to use? Rs 20? Rs 100?

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Originally Posted by suninphx

What bond paper was used? was it Rs100 or more?

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Per my attorney value of stamp paper doesn't matter any value is okay. Just get it notarized (Attested).

Yes, the value of stamp paper doesn't matter.

I gathered information and found that most commonly used among BC affidavit is Rs.20 . People have taken affidavits in lesser value stamp papers too.

see this link( Thanks Nishant) http://www.jackson-hertogs.com/jh/memos/69000.pdf

FWIW, I used Rs 100. But I don't think it matters.

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Originally Posted by veni001

Yes, as long as he/she is USCIS certified physician.

You need original passport for medicals.

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May be it depends on the Dr you choose, for me it was the same case. My wife's passport was at Indian Consulate in NY for renewal when we did medical. And we only needed photo ID which can be Driver's license or passport. So for my wife we used her driver's license. And for me, even though I had passport, I used my drivers license. Only for my daughter we used passport as she did not had her driver's license.

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Originally Posted by tendlya

For Birth Certificate Affidavits what bond paper to use? Rs 20? Rs 100?

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Tendly,

For affidavits - Use Rs 100 Stamp paper and get affdvt notarized. The second or next papers may be white or bond.. it doesn't matter.

Thanks Kanmani , Vizcard.

Reading some thereads on trackitt - people are planning to take immunizations at Walgreens. Is that OK? (Should be fine I guess but just checking). And it seems if we take those at civil surgons office insurence wont cover those? Is that true?

Note: Moderators please move this post to appropriate thread. My Apologies.

Suninphx,

Very True. Insurance wont cover the vaccinations for immigration purposes. However, talk to your PCP and if he/she advises you to take the shot, then get it done at his/her office. Then its 100% covered since they come under preventive care.

You can take at Walgreens but when I compared, they were expensive than county health center but not as high as the civil surgeon fee.

Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by suninphx

Thanks Kanmani , Vizcard.

Reading some thereads on trackitt - people are planning to take immunizations at Walgreens. Is that OK? (Should be fine I guess but just checking). And it seems if we take those at civil surgons office insurence wont cover those? Is that true?

Note: Moderators please move this post to appropriate thread. My Apologies.

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Originally Posted by tendlya

For Birth Certificate Affidavits what bond paper to use? Rs 20? Rs 100?

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The value of Stamp paper depends upon which city (State) you get it notarized.. For eg, when I was in India, the stamp duty (Paper) required for general POA was Rs 10 in my small state (CG) but the same was Rs 150 for Mumbai.. The state government decides how much they want to rip you.. That is why you see different value of stamp paper for same document.. You can always use higher value stamp paper if you want..

For USCIS, it doesn't matter as in US notaries are done on plain paper (i.e. no stamp paper.. it is more of British funda)..

Ask your father to "get" a birth certificate for you from muncipal office with your mom's name as 'A'. Your father will know how to "get" one.

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Originally Posted by medatom

I am extremely sorry for hijacking the thread. But this one keeps me awake at night.
I was born at home so no birth certificates. My mother always used two different names for herself. So when i applied for passport i have name A listed as mother's name. However, i asked my father to get a birth certificate for me, when inquired, the municipal will only issue a birth certificate with name B as it's listed in the ration card right now.
What should i do?. Get a birth certificate with name B listed as mother and get an affidavit from my parents as well.
Thanks a lot.

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Sure. I am submitting affidavits from parents in place of birth certificate. Do i need to send the original affidavit or a copy of the affidavit to lawyer. In general he has asked for copies but i was confused about the affidavit. Thanks for your help.

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Originally Posted by leo07

Can you please ask the question again with context? I'm sorry, I could not understand what this is for.

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ok. Thanks for clarifying. Notarized copies will suffice.

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Originally Posted by GhostWriter

Sure. I am submitting affidavits from parents in place of birth certificate. Do i need to send the original affidavit or a copy of the affidavit to lawyer. In general he has asked for copies but i was confused about the affidavit. Thanks for your help.

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Thanks Kanmani, leo7.

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Originally Posted by Kanmani

Ghostwriter
I learnt that it is the original affidavits . Lets get answers from majority.

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Originally Posted by leo07

ok. Thanks for clarifying. Notarized copies will suffice.

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medatom

Dont confuse the USCIS with two different names . Its your mistake too by entering a different name in your passport other than what is in the Indian official records like Ration card as name B. So now the option is to use name A or name B. If your mom has everything else recorded in the name as B , then dont change the identification of your mom for your own mistake. Try to correct the mother's name in your passport at Indian embassy/consulate, explaining that you have entered her maiden name .


This is just my thought .

Note: Dont take it as a legal advice. consult an attorney .

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Originally Posted by medatom

I am extremely sorry for hijacking the thread. But this one keeps me awake at night.
I was born at home so no birth certificates. My mother always used two different names for herself. So when i applied for passport i have name A listed as mother's name. However, i asked my father to get a birth certificate for me, when inquired, the municipal will only issue a birth certificate with name B as it's listed in the ration card right now.
What should i do?. Get a birth certificate with name B listed as mother and get an affidavit from my parents as well.
Thanks a lot.

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Originally Posted by GhostWriter

Sure. I am submitting affidavits from parents in place of birth certificate. Do i need to send the original affidavit or a copy of the affidavit to lawyer. In general he has asked for copies but i was confused about the affidavit. Thanks for your help.

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Originally Posted by Kanmani

Ghostwriter
I learnt that it is the original affidavits . Lets get answers from majority.

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Fragomen told me copies were fine for affidavits.

Hi Guys,

Im a long time lurker and a first time poster. Congratulations to all who have become current.y

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Originally Posted by leo07

ok. Thanks for clarifying. Notarized copies will suffice.

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I had spoken to my lawyers (Rajuv Khanna) earlier about this and they insisted that the rules had changed and we no longer need to provide notarized copies for BC or Marriage certificate. A self attested certificate will do just fine.

Has anyone heard of any instances where USCIS insisted on a notarized copy?

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...000ecd190aRCRD

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USCIS no longer routinely requires submission of original documents or "certified copies." Instead, ordinary legible photocopies of such documents (including naturalization certificates and alien registration cards) will be acceptable for initial filing and approval of petitions and applications."

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Originally Posted by dexter2010

Hi Guys,

Im a long time lurker and a first time poster. Congratulations to all who have become current.y



I had spoken to my lawyers (Rajuv Khanna) earlier about this and they insisted that the rules had changed and we no longer need to provide notarized copies for BC or Marriage certificate. A self attested certificate will do just fine.

Has anyone heard of any instances where USCIS insisted on a notarized copy?

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Originally Posted by nishant2200

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...000ecd190aRCRD

Read:

"
USCIS no longer routinely requires submission of original documents or "certified copies." Instead, ordinary legible photocopies of such documents (including naturalization certificates and alien registration cards) will be acceptable for initial filing and approval of petitions and applications."

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Thank you for the quick response Nishant.

Thanks for sharing. This is news to me, I did not hear the same from my attorney though.

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Originally Posted by dexter2010

Hi Guys,

Im a long time lurker and a first time poster. Congratulations to all who have become current.y



I had spoken to my lawyers (Rajuv Khanna) earlier about this and they insisted that the rules had changed and we no longer need to provide notarized copies for BC or Marriage certificate. A self attested certificate will do just fine.

Has anyone heard of any instances where USCIS insisted on a notarized copy?

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I have DOB conflicts, All my records, including Passport, School certificate have 01/23/1979 but my Birth Certificate has 01/24/1979.
Date provided in the Birth Certificate 01/24/1979 is the correct one. What are my options ? How do I fix this issue ? Did anybody come same issue ?


-rushforgc

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Originally Posted by rushforgc

I have DOB conflicts, All my records, including Passport, School certificate have 01/23/1979 but my Birth Certificate has 01/24/1979.
Date provided in the Birth Certificate 01/24/1979 is the correct one. What are my options ? How do I fix this issue ? Did anybody come same issue ?


-rushforgc

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You are probably better off getting your birth certificate changed to reflect the dates in other documents. Alternatively, you can get an affidavit from your parents stating that your birth date is 01/23/1979 and you were born in xxxx place. You should definitely consult with your lawyer as well as he may be able to suggest an alternative.

I have a question. I have sent affidavits from parents in place of birth certificate to the lawyer. He is preparing AOS forms. I have also applied for birth certificate a month ago and i might get it in a week or so. Do any of the AOS/EAD forms have a field to mention the proof for birth certificate or is it just a supporting document. My concern is that if i get my birth certificate, can i send it to my lawyer to include it with my application or will he have to re-do the form preparation.

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Originally Posted by imdeng

Folks - Sorry for the off-topic post. I will remove the post and the replies to the appropriate thread in a day. I am a Feb current (PD: Aug-2009) and I have two urgent questions:

1. I am in a pickle about Birth Certificate thing. I have Affidavits from parents and I also have school records however, getting either a delayed registration BC or a Non-Availability Certificate is proving to be a hassle. I am from a corruption-rich state and my parents are quite elderly and it is proving very difficult for them to get anything from the Municipality. Is it possible at all to file for 485 without a document from Municipality?

2. I need EAD urgently since my dependent needs to shift jobs in Mar-April timeframe. Would it be advisable to file 485 asap even if the documentation is not fully complete (e.g. the BC issue above) and let it go to RFE? Would any resulting RFE affect the timeline for us to get an EAD??

Thanks for your replies. There is just a week for me to file and I am freaking out a little.

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I registered just to answer your question. I know the pain dealing with BABUS in India when you are in a foreign country and your parents are old. Please use YOURMANININDIA DOT COM. It will cost you some money and time but they will get the non-availability certificate to you quickly.

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Originally Posted by imdeng

Folks - Sorry for the off-topic post. I will remove the post and the replies to the appropriate thread in a day. I am a Feb current (PD: Aug-2009) and I have two urgent questions:

1. I am in a pickle about Birth Certificate thing. I have Affidavits from parents and I also have school records however, getting either a delayed registration BC or a Non-Availability Certificate is proving to be a hassle. I am from a corruption-rich state and my parents are quite elderly and it is proving very difficult for them to get anything from the Municipality. Is it possible at all to file for 485 without a document from Municipality?

2. I need EAD urgently since my dependent needs to shift jobs in Mar-April timeframe. Would it be advisable to file 485 asap even if the documentation is not fully complete (e.g. the BC issue above) and let it go to RFE? Would any resulting RFE affect the timeline for us to get an EAD??

Thanks for your replies. There is just a week for me to file and I am freaking out a little.

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I used Allied legal for NABC. They charged a premium (about $400 - they send lawyers not middle man and hence the premium) but I got NABC in 10 days. In fact the Govt. fee for NABC is only Rs.15 but to deal with the BABUS is a nightmare well to be avoided by mere mortals like our parents, friends or relatives.

Imdeng, a NABC is MUST to go alongwith affidavits to justify that a record does not exist and so here are affidavits that prove birth details. So please get NABC by any means. I totally understand what you mentioned specially with old aged parents it is difficult to make chakkars of babus/offices.
here is a link from Ron that talks about how to deal with BC docs . http://imminfo.com/News/Newsletter/2...documents.html

i got a NABC for my wife and got my BC corrected from local municipal ofc. good luck bro'

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Originally Posted by imdeng

Folks - Sorry for the off-topic post. I will remove the post and the replies to the appropriate thread in a day. I am a Feb current (PD: Aug-2009) and I have two urgent questions:

1. I am in a pickle about Birth Certificate thing. I have Affidavits from parents and I also have school records however, getting either a delayed registration BC or a Non-Availability Certificate is proving to be a hassle. I am from a corruption-rich state and my parents are quite elderly and it is proving very difficult for them to get anything from the Municipality. Is it possible at all to file for 485 without a document from Municipality?

2. I need EAD urgently since my dependent needs to shift jobs in Mar-April timeframe. Would it be advisable to file 485 asap even if the documentation is not fully complete (e.g. the BC issue above) and let it go to RFE? Would any resulting RFE affect the timeline for us to get an EAD??

Thanks for your replies. There is just a week for me to file and I am freaking out a little.

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Great Info !!! India is really advancing (atleast the services around the BABUS). The BABUS/Politicians will never change...

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Originally Posted by gcoracle

I used Allied legal for NABC. They charged a premium (about $400 - they send lawyers not middle man and hence the premium) but I got NABC in 10 days. In fact the Govt. fee for NABC is only Rs.15 but to deal with the BABUS is a nightmare well to be avoided by mere mortals like our parents, friends or relatives.

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can you please let me know the channel you tried...i am ok with shedding that extra dollars if my work will be done....as i am in same situation

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Originally Posted by gcoracle

I used Allied legal for NABC. They charged a premium (about $400 - they send lawyers not middle man and hence the premium) but I got NABC in 10 days. In fact the Govt. fee for NABC is only Rs.15 but to deal with the BABUS is a nightmare well to be avoided by mere mortals like our parents, friends or relatives.

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Originally Posted by longgcque

Imdeng, a NABC is MUST to go alongwith affidavits to justify that a record does not exist and so here are affidavits that prove birth details. So please get NABC by any means. I totally understand what you mentioned specially with old aged parents it is difficult to make chakkars of babus/offices.
here is a link from Ron that talks about how to deal with BC docs . http://imminfo.com/News/Newsletter/2...documents.html

i got a NABC for my wife and got my BC corrected from local municipal ofc. good luck bro'

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While Im not yet current (Dec 28th 2010), Im in the process of preparing my docs in case OP shows 2010 PDs folks some love. My situation with BC is slightly different, as many you know, in India, many a times, the initials are not expanded, so is my case. In fact even my parents name do not have the initials expanded and in my mothers name only her first name is recorded. I have the birth certificate with my last name shown as initials and i got an affidavit from my parentsusing my full name (as in passport) along with their full names (as in their passport)., Will this suffice the need or should I get some other documents. My Affidavits are not notarized and only self attested as informed to me by some other users in the community.

Apologies if this has already been addressed but I was going through my birth certificate and realized that my parents last names are missing on it. My full name is present though. Will I need to provide some supplemental information on this front or is it considered acceptable? Thanks.

My wife's name was not included in her birth certificate, though Gender/date of Birth/Place of Birth/Father's Name / Mother's Name were included. Name place left with --------. affidavit's are fine along with this? Does anyone has similar issue?

gkjppp : This should be a very common issue, due to the fact that in India, they usually dont name the child atleast till 2-3 months after birth. I believe affidavit should be fine. But I would say, if possible, apply for the BC again and have the name added to the certificate. This way you can be at peace. If its not possible, talk to your attorney for clear directions.

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Originally Posted by gkjppp

My wife's name was not included in her birth certificate, though Gender/date of Birth/Place of Birth/Father's Name / Mother's Name were included. Name place left with --------. affidavit's are fine along with this? Does anyone has similar issue?

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My Priority date is 2/11.

I was not prepared or thought that dates will be current or close to current this soon. Looking at the pace date aere moving I might become current in couple of months.

Now I am thinking of getting ready with the documents.
Like most of the guys I too do not have with Birth Certificate and my original dates of birth and official ( dates of birth in school records and passport) are different.

My Parent are with me now in US.

Gurus,

1) I am thinking notorize/affidavit the birth certificate here in US as my parent are with 2) me and they will here for couple of more months.
3) Will get the 2 Relatives Affadavit from India
4) Is Non Availabilty certificate must to support Affadavit

Thanks in Advance.

Aditya

does anyone know how to handle birth place mismatch.

I have birth certificate, but it says local body: <xxxx> - Dhule, tasil/block: Dhule, district: Dhule.

<xxxx> some suburb in Dhule.

Attachment 216

Whereas passport says only Dhule.

I have sent message to the lawyer, but looks like they are already overloaded with work. It would be really helpful if in meantime anyone can answer this.

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Originally Posted by aditya

My Priority date is 2/11.

I was not prepared or thought that dates will be current or close to current this soon. Looking at the pace date aere moving I might become current in couple of months.

Now I am thinking of getting ready with the documents.
Like most of the guys I too do not have with Birth Certificate and my original dates of birth and official ( dates of birth in school records and passport) are different.

My Parent are with me now in US.

Gurus,

1) I am thinking notorize/affidavit the birth certificate here in US as my parent are with 2) me and they will here for couple of more months.
3) Will get the 2 Relatives Affadavit from India
4) Is Non Availabilty certificate must to support Affadavit

Thanks in Advance.

Aditya

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1.they can do while they are in US
3.fine
4.Yes, in absence of Birth Certificate/ USCIS expects Non Availability Certificate from your local municipality / etc.

seems like guru's are busy most happening with EB2 forum, they will definetely answer your questions.

Sorry, i posted this yesterday under BirthCertificates forum, not received much response.please move it, after it is answered.

My wife's name was not included in her birth certificate, though Gender/date of Birth/Place of Birth/Father's Name / Mother's Name were included. Name place left with --------. affidavit's are fine along with this? Does anyone has similar issue? My inlaws are visiting this month end, is it OK to make affidavit while they are here in US/ or i need to make it one from India?

affidavit is to be put alongwith the BC. The affidavit should mention it is being submitted because the name is not present. and it's ok to get it done when in law are here. You can prepare it on ordinary paper and get it signed in front of notary, who will also sign and stamp it.

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Originally Posted by gkjppp

Sorry, i posted this yesterday under BirthCertificates forum, not received much response.please move it, after it is answered.

My wife's name was not included in her birth certificate, though Gender/date of Birth/Place of Birth/Father's Name / Mother's Name were included. Name place left with --------. affidavit's are fine along with this? Does anyone has similar issue? My inlaws are visiting this month end, is it OK to make affidavit while they are here/ or i need to make it one from India?

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Originally Posted by nishant2200

affidavit is to be put alongwith the BC. The affidavit should mention it is being submitted because the name is not present. and it's ok to get it done when in law are here. You can prepare it on ordinary paper and get it signed in front of notary, who will also sign and stamp it.

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Great, Thanks Nishant.

desiman,

This should be fine (as long as <xxxx> suburb is not striked out in the BC), since Dhule is also mentioned in the passport and in the birth certificate.
Yup, you are right - The attorney's are overloaded and overjoyed [with sudden surge in the income :)]
Anyways, wait for the attorney's response. Please update in the forum, the attorney's response.

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Originally Posted by desiman

does anyone know how to handle birth place mismatch.

I have birth certificate, but it says local body: <xxxx> - Dhule, tasil/block: Dhule, district: Dhule.

<xxxx> some suburb in Dhule.

Attachment 216

Whereas passport says only Dhule.

I have sent message to the lawyer, but looks like they are already overloaded with work. It would be really helpful if in meantime anyone can answer this.

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