EB2-3 Predictions (Rather Calculations)

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03-01-2021, 02:21 AM
newsletter1978

Hello everyone, just wanted to check if anyone is in the same boat as me. My wife got the appointment letter for her biometrics and her biometric was done on 2/19. I am the primary applicant, i have not received the biometrics appointment. We got current in March bulletin, how long does it take to get GC after you get current?
03-01-2021, 09:18 AM
Noesis

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Originally Posted by Noesis

Hello Guys,

I filed my EB3 Downgrade application (PD - Dec 2012) on 12/18 (reached TSC on 12/21) and have not heard anything after that. The checks have not been cashed yet. The only confirmation I have of the application is the tracking number. Can anyone please guide on what steps they took as it would be 60 days since application was received with no receipt numbers (whoever was/is in similar boat).? If I call USCIS Contact Center:800-375-5283 or Chat with Emma, what information could I provide other than the tracking number.?

Also off topic on H4 and EAD, my spouse's H4 and EAD applications are in process (Change of status from H1 B to H4) since May of 2020 with no update. Have called several times, raise a couple SRs to be only told that the biometric were requested but USCIS cannot control local ASCs and cannot provide when we would receive biometric application. Any advise on what could be done here.?

Thank you much;

Finally got the checks cashed today morning. Never felt this happy after someone took the money :)
Hopefully receipt numbers would follow soon, if not, then Hello Emma.!
Nothing on the H4 and H4 EAD though, still pending with the same status after multiple Inquiries, follow ups, SRs, calls, Chat.
03-01-2021, 10:45 AM
mesan123

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Originally Posted by gcconnect

I received I-485J receipt after getting EAD ( Submitted I-485J as part of the I-485 in OCT 2020). IMHO need not worry much as the time lines are not consistent for receipts, Biometrics, EAD at this point of time. There are so many people still waiting for Biometrics and with in 2 to 4 months everything will be streamlined.

i too applied with 485-J. Didnot get my 485J reciept yet. Have EAD from Jan. Applied in Oct 2020
03-01-2021, 11:04 AM
aGCHopefull

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Originally Posted by mesan123

i too applied with 485-J. Didnot get my 485J reciept yet. Have EAD from Jan. Applied in Oct 2020

I'd also applied I485-J along with 485/765/131 in 1st week of October 2020. Have not received 485-J receipt yet. Also no biometric yet.
03-01-2021, 12:16 PM
ak7419

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Originally Posted by Moveon

I believe that sending documents w/o being asked for it will only cause more delays for your case. The USCIS is stretched thin and if everyone starts to send Supplement-Js and Medicals w/o being asked for it will only annoy them and might start to put you to the back of the queue. If you believe your case is delayed , raise an SR .

@Moveon, did you receive RFE since you became current? I see that lot of NSC folks with PD > 2010 are receiving RFEs but majority of folks from TSC with PD < 09/2010 are yet to receive RFEs. Do you think USCIS has any plans of optimizing workload between service centers since there seems to be "inequitable" distribution of workload (for lack of better word).
03-01-2021, 12:29 PM
Turbulent_Dragonfly

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Originally Posted by ak7419

@Moveon, did you receive RFE since you became current? I see that lot of NSC folks with PD > 2010 are receiving RFEs but majority of folks from TSC with PD < 09/2010 are yet to receive RFEs. Do you think USCIS has any plans of optimizing workload between service centers since there seems to be "inequitable" distribution of workload (for lack of better word).

It's a well known fact over the years that TSC sucks.
03-01-2021, 01:09 PM
raradhya

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Originally Posted by aGCHopefull

I'd also applied I485-J along with 485/765/131 in 1st week of October 2020. Have not received 485-J receipt yet. Also no biometric yet.

From what i have read or followed, one will not get receipt notice for I-485J . but once its approved you will get the approval notice. usually they wont pick up the file for processing if the dates FA is not current.

however i have seen cases on this forum where some of the folks are getting the I-485J notice after some time.
03-01-2021, 01:11 PM
LeoAugust

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Originally Posted by mr00us

Here you go. There are 2 big catch(es).
1. How many down port from EB2 to EB3 and in which month/year so EB2/3 movement will be based on that. These numbers are just guess so I would not like avoid speculating
2. How many visas are wasted by USCIS

Other than these, if we go just by numbers, here we are. All in all things look good for EB2.

Attachment 1779

1. How many down port from EB2 to EB3 and in which month/year so EB2/3 movement will be based on that. These numbers are just guess so I would not like avoid speculating--> Seems like there are 30k EB2 to EB3 downgrade on Oct-Dec-2020. How much it is going to impact the calculation.
What will be the prediction dates including the downgrade and with no wastage?
03-01-2021, 01:20 PM
Turbulent_Dragonfly

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Originally Posted by raradhya

From what i have read or followed, one will not get receipt notice for I-485J . but once its approved you will get the approval notice. usually they wont pick up the file for processing if the dates FA is not current.

however i have seen cases on this forum where some of the folks are getting the I-485J notice after some time.

I thought most people who have filed I-485J have gotten receipt notices within a few weeks, or am I missing something? I got mine within a month or so of filing it in the first week of Oct but it could also be because I was one of the early applicants and since then things have log jammed up pretty good.
03-01-2021, 01:28 PM
rabp77

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Originally Posted by newsletter1978

Hello everyone, just wanted to check if anyone is in the same boat as me. My wife got the appointment letter for her biometrics and her biometric was done on 2/19. I am the primary applicant, i have not received the biometrics appointment. We got current in March bulletin, how long does it take to get GC after you get current?

it depends on the status of the case. People with pre-adjudicated cases and no need for RFEs have previously got approved within a week of the date becoming currrent, and have got GC in hand within 2 weeks. However, an RFE or other process can slow it down based on the processing required. A normal medical RFE would put it behind by 1-3 months. In your case, maybe they dont need finger prints, as the once they have are recent. In which case if the interview is also waved, it could move pretty fast. But if they need finger prints and interviews, then it will need to at least wait till those are complete.
03-01-2021, 01:46 PM
raradhya

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Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly

I thought most people who have filed I-485J have gotten receipt notices within a few weeks, or am I missing something? I got mine within a month or so of filing it in the first week of Oct but it could also be because I was one of the early applicants and since then things have log jammed up pretty good.

Even i am confused about this pattern. i read in this forum that we will not receive I-485J receipt notice when we file them together. we will receive notice only if we get RFE and submit the i-485J.
for myself and my friends who filed in OCT 2020 we only received 3 notices (i-485, i-765 and I-130) none of us have received I-485J notice.
03-01-2021, 01:47 PM
Zenzone

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Originally Posted by raradhya

Even i am confused about this pattern. i read in this forum that we will not receive I-485J receipt notice when we file them together. we will receive notice only if we get RFE and submit the i-485J.
for myself and my friends who filed in OCT 2020 we only received 3 notices (i-485, i-765 and I-130) none of us have received I-485J notice.

I got mine in early Feb, while the rest of the receipt notices were received in Nov/Dec itself.
03-01-2021, 02:01 PM
android09

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Originally Posted by raradhya

Even i am confused about this pattern. i read in this forum that we will not receive I-485J receipt notice when we file them together. we will receive notice only if we get RFE and submit the i-485J.
for myself and my friends who filed in OCT 2020 we only received 3 notices (i-485, i-765 and I-130) none of us have received I-485J notice.

Correct. Some receive it, many dont. I checked with my lawyers and they said its ok if you didnt receive the notice. Its only an acknowledgement on their end. If they really need something, you'll be sent an RFE.
03-01-2021, 02:14 PM
ak7419

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Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly

I thought most people who have filed I-485J have gotten receipt notices within a few weeks, or am I missing something? I got mine within a month or so of filing it in the first week of Oct but it could also be because I was one of the early applicants and since then things have log jammed up pretty good.

Everything is backed up. One thing I don't understand is, is TSC responsible for processing both 485s that were applied in 2012 and 485s that were applied as part of the recent downgrades in October 2020? I thought recent downgrade 485s were sent to a lockbox in lewisville?!
03-01-2021, 02:29 PM
19YRSNOGC

Saw an Approval for Dec9 2009 on the first day of the being current in telegram group.
03-01-2021, 03:35 PM
sstest

Is the fact that the I-485, EAD/AP receipt notices came from NSC sufficient to assume that the case is being processed in NSC?
03-01-2021, 03:52 PM
bikenlalan

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Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly

I thought most people who have filed I-485J have gotten receipt notices within a few weeks, or am I missing something? I got mine within a month or so of filing it in the first week of Oct but it could also be because I was one of the early applicants and since then things have log jammed up pretty good.

Nope, I filed middle of October and have not received I-485J notice yet.
03-01-2021, 03:53 PM
vvaavv

Wanted to update that my case status changed to" New card is being produced" today. I got current in March bulletin.
NSC
PD - 10/19/2009
RD - 02/06/2012
Received 3 RFE so far
Last RFE - 12/02/2020 ( Medical , 325A, 1485J and passport biographic)
I485J Approval - 01/27/2021
Officer - 0375
03-01-2021, 06:20 PM
LeoAugust

Please help me understanding the situation. What it means? I did not see any change in case status but, following is the information I got.

Today I was chatting with EMMA(Live Agent) and provided the SRC number and she responded with "It is saying for your i765 that your bio metrics was received on 02/05/2021 so they may have applied previous bio metrics to this case.". Does this mean they will not schedule any biometric or they will schedule biometrics for me? Is that Biometrics is different for 486 and 765? If they reuse biometrics for 765, does it mean it will be applied to 485?
03-01-2021, 06:50 PM
idliman

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Originally Posted by LeoAugust

Please help me understanding the situation. What it means? I did not see any change in case status but, following is the information I got.

Today I was chatting with EMMA(Live Agent) and provided the SRC number and she responded with "It is saying for your i765 that your bio metrics was received on 02/05/2021 so they may have applied previous bio metrics to this case.". Does this mean they will not schedule any biometric or they will schedule biometrics for me? Is that Biometrics is different for 486 and 765? If they reuse biometrics for 765, does it mean it will be applied to 485?

In my understanding, the reuse of biometrics is limited only to I-765 (EAD) applications. See AILA Doc No 20033032 (30MAR2020).

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U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services today announced that it will reuse previously submitted biometrics in order to process valid Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization, extension requests due to the temporary closure of Application Support Centers(ASC) to the public in response to the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. This announcement's consistent with existing USCIS authorities regarding the agency's ability to reuse previously submitted biometrics.

Allow Reuse of Some Biometrics

Applicants who had an appointment scheduled with an ASC on or after the March 18 closure or who filed an I-765 extension will have their application processed using previously submitted biometrics. This will remain in effect until ASCs resume normal operations.

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In the limited cases where USCIS may reuse an applicant's biometrics, the agency will mail a Form I-797 notice to the applicant stating that his or her biometrics will be reused and that the applicant is not required to appear at an ASC. Unless you receive such a notice, be prepared to wait a while for your next biometrics appointment.

So you will get your EAD. But for GC everyone has to go for Biometric Appointment.

Added: There was an Ombudsman meeting / Webminar in Nov 2020 that discussed wide use of Biometrics. I am not able to get a transcript of that. Maybe they have extended the scope since Mar 2020.
03-01-2021, 06:55 PM
LeoAugust

Thanks @idliman. So, they will reuse my bio metrics taken before and I have to go for one more biometrics when the dates are current.
03-01-2021, 08:09 PM
Jonty Rhodes

Quick question regarding premiums processing of downgrade I-140.

My PD is May 20, 2011, in EB2. I missed my date by 5 days. So I downgraded to EB3 in late October 2020. I have received I-485/I-765 and I-131 notices so far. My case status shows fingerprint fee received but I haven't got any biometrics appointment yet.

Based on the movement of PDs in the visa bulletin and future predicted movement, do you guys recommend updating the EB3 I-140 for premium processing at this time?

If the dates move in EB3 beyond my PD, I don't want to have a pending I-140 at that time and I am thinking that updating to premium processing makes sense but I am worried about an RFE and then further delays with possible rejection for some reason. Also if the dates are definitely not gonna move then I can wait. But just wanted to have some clarity regarding this from you guys.

I am a physician with the same employer for last 10 years. So my case is very straightforward. But my attorney is very conservative and usually very reluctant to do anything that's even remotly aggressive.
03-01-2021, 08:27 PM
mesan123

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Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly

I thought most people who have filed I-485J have gotten receipt notices within a few weeks, or am I missing something? I got mine within a month or so of filing it in the first week of Oct but it could also be because I was one of the early applicants and since then things have log jammed up pretty good.

I didnot get it yet, got other reciepts and EAD/AP approved too... one of my friend who applied same week as me in Oct got his 485 J recipet 3 weeks ago.

There is no consistency, when i called uscis regarding the same , one officer told i will not get other told to email lickbox. No clue on how they are doing
03-01-2021, 08:28 PM
YTeleven

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Originally Posted by Jonty Rhodes

Quick question regarding premiums processing of downgrade I-140.

My PD is May 20, 2011, in EB2. I missed my date by 5 days. So I downgraded to EB3 in late October 2020. I have received I-485/I-765 and I-131 notices so far. My case status shows fingerprint fee received but I haven't got any biometrics appointment yet.

Based on the movement of PDs in the visa bulletin and future predicted movement, do you guys recommend updating the EB3 I-140 for premium processing at this time?

If the dates move in EB3 beyond my PD, I don't want to have a pending I-140 at that time and I am thinking that updating to premium processing makes sense but I am worried about an RFE and then further delays with possible rejection for some reason. Also if the dates are definitely not gonna move then I can wait. But just wanted to have some clarity regarding this from you guys.

I am a physician with the same employer for last 10 years. So my case is very straightforward. But my attorney is very conservative and usually very reluctant to do anything that's even remotly aggressive.

Hi Jonty,

Good that you downgraded to EB3 even you missed the current date by just 5 days.
I was strongly advocating for downgrade in this forum for several years before covid.
I do support of your decision of premium processing for I140 now.
Based on my predictions your date will get current (FAD) in EB3I by end of this year so it is better to be ahead in the race by clearing the I140.
03-01-2021, 08:29 PM
mesan123

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Originally Posted by Zenzone

I got mine in early Feb, while the rest of the receipt notices were received in Nov/Dec itself.

hoping i will get my I-485 J reciept no this month. I checked with my law firm, they mentioned i should get one, as normally they do generate a reciept for that too. Because of USCIS lag they are seeing too much inconsistencies altogether.

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