There must be some negotiations going on behind closed doors.
I wonder if they would combine 3012 & S.3245 (eb-5 bill) and pass em en'bloc. 3245 is proposed by leahy and co-sponsored by Schumer & Grassley. 3245 is stuck in Judiciary committee but if they want to continue Eb-5 program they will have to re-authorize that program before Sept. end. (just curious, Has any1 heard any news/rumors?)
Absolutely, there is every chance for that. I will not be surprised if STEM components are also added as enhancement to the bill as well. Plus currently 3012 is also in the judiciary committee as is the 3245.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
To JackBrown
Hope your wishes are true as we are now down to educated guesses in the absence of any official word on 3012.The Senate leaders according to C-Span are working on an agreement to bring the cybersecurity bill forward.
In terms of the EB-5 program,there is no urgency for them to finish next week as they will be back in session in September to sort this out. The S.3245 Bill is for permanent reauthorization of the EB-5 and other programs. However Sen.Leahy has already included a 3 year extension of the Program under the Senate Version of the DHS Appropriations Bill which will most likely pass in September and will be reconciled in Conference with the already passed House Version of DHS Appropriations.
http://www.millermayer.com/content/v...ve-update.html
I thought the STEM bill had negotiations break down last week...not entirely sure .Quote:
Originally Posted by chengisk
Also no word on HR3012 so far...A bill with this much support will surely get passed ...but looks like the timeline is going to be post Sep session.
Senate leaves for recess on August 6th(Monday) so 4th next friday will be the last working day.
house is already done for the week and won't be back till Tuesday....lets see what else senate does today..(other thn cyber security)
Senate is agreed to invoke cloture on cybersecurity (on Lieberman's request) and now McConnell wants a Burmah Sanction Bill. I think it would be Schumer who might ask for a cloture on 3012... but God only knows when.
Senate is probably done for the week also
"Senator Reid filed cloture on Executive Calendar #759, the nomination of Robert E. Bacharach, of Oklahoma, to be United States Circuit Judge for the Tenth Circuit. We expect the vote to occur at 5:30pm Monday."
There is probably going to be no other business conducted till this cloture ripens and the Senators are likely already heading home
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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politic...cards.html.csp
http://dev.utahbusiness.com/news/vie..._entrepreneurs
http://conyersinthehouse.blogspot.co...n-bill-to.html
new bill right now from Chaffetz? lets see what s included when we get details...
i wish Chaffetz would work on passing 3012 before working on new bill right now..
Not much he can do if the bill is in the Senate. Besides he can't put all his political eggs in the 3012 basket.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
Never analyze too much, on this political maneavers. It always happens on one side. Like the coin has two sides, each and every political issue also have its pros and cons, it might take some time, imagine the rough sea and a huge storm coming(election). The boat has to reach the shore. It has to go through tough time on its final spell to reach the shore because of the rough waves!. Hold on to your positivism. Delay is only to make the result more sweeter. I am sure that Sen.Majority Leader already scheduled in his plan H.R.3012, the moment Sen Grassuncle lifted the hold! so it is only the question of timing.
As I indicated in the earlier posts, if this bill is passed, it will favour republican party to some extent politically, or in another words that itself is a counter weapon for republicans for the election campaign against BO, so the Majority Leader want to delay H.R.3012 as much as possible, But there are resistance for his hesitation. Please keep the positive vibes as always. A Day will come when this bill will be the Law of the Land!
Good luck to all, Praying for all.
http://politico.com/morningtech/
Now that Sen. Chuck Grassley has lifted his hold, Rep. Jason Chaffetz is hopeful his immigration bill — which would remove the per-country visa cap but not increase the overall number of visas available for highly-skilled workers — can advance. "I’m more optimistic that it will actually move in the Senate now than I have ever been," Chaffetz told MT on Thursday. "Sen. Grassley had some serious concerns, we addressed those, he made a fix and it made the bill better. Now it’s time to move on."
Not much, just Sen. Chaftez's hope. Well my hope too. And a hope many of us share too.
Hello All,
Following was posted on another forum. I just cut and paste that here, Just if some one is happy hearing it let it be.
Keep our positive Vibes as always. Praying for all.
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Just wanted to let all HR 3012 supporters that our time has come and that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Our efforts have finally come to fruition thanks to thousands of ** supporters and donors. So, brothers and sisters, do not despair. We shall be victorious next week.
I know for a fact from ** Core that HR 3012 will pass the Senate next week and will very soon become LAW OF THE LAND. Since I am not allow to publish any news as it strictly forbidden as per ** core, I'll just give you guys some hints. Those who know how to read it will know the truth of how 3012 will happen. The haters and antis can say whatever they wish.
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said he’s open to having amendments to the cybersecurity bill and hopes to vote on them next week.
“There’s plenty of room for changes,” Reid said on the floor Thursday. “Let’s have as many amendments as people feel appropriate.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/24...
http://www.politico.com/morningtech/
CHAFFETZ HOPEFUL ON IMMIGRATION — Now that Sen. Chuck Grassley has lifted his hold, Rep. Jason Chaffetz is hopeful his immigration bill — which would remove the per-country visa cap but not increase the overall number of visas available for highly-skilled workers — can advance. "I’m more optimistic that it will actually move in the Senate now than I have ever been," Chaffetz told MT on Thursday. "Sen. Grassley had some serious concerns, we addressed those, he made a fix and it made the bill better. Now it’s time to move on."
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Wow, they're going to tack it on to the Cybersecurity bill as an amendment? Gutsy. But it will still have to be reconciled with the House version, no? I thought there were more contentious issues with the two versions of the cybersecurity bill.
I guess next week will be it.
I hope they don't add HR 3012 on cybersecurity bill, my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
Sen. Reid has asked Senators to come up with amendments and add it to this bill. In response to that, Sen. Schumer is adding a gun-control amendment to the cybersecurity bill.
I don't know the details of his amendment but do you think the Republicans will let it pass with gun-control amendment added on it? I highly doubt it.
I am sure this bill will be killed if amendments like these are added on it. I think we have to wait for more amendments to be added on cybersecurity bill to have some idea about bill's fate. But I feel that HR 3012 should not be added on that bill as an amendment if the bill is going to have any other controversial amendments.
I think this bill probably won't pass and will die in the Senate but you never know if they pull out a surprise. Even if it passes the Senate, the House may be a major obstacle. Lets keep a close eye on it. We don't know what kind of backdoor deals are going on. Lets keep the hope alive.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/sc...security-bill/
I doubt they will add immigration to a cyber security bill. Just doesn't make sense.
Firstly, let's not give too much credibility to these "I have inside information that I'm not supposed to share but here is a hint" kind of posts.
Secondly, even if this dude has some inside info, I don't think he was suggesting that they'll add this to the cybersecurity bill. I think he was bringing attention to the 'vote next week' part of the quote, with the idea that once that's done they'll take up 3012. Long stretch, but adding 3012 as an amendment to the cybersecurity bill seems a longer stretch to me.
Same O Same O...
http://www.murthy.com/2012/07/30/h-r...tive-proposal/
A long article to say nothing more... but does once again mention additional holds, and amendments
No wonder Murthy is an attorney. who now oppposes H.r.3012. any attorney site bluffs nowadays. Ron, Murthy, OH etc etc... so take the above article as false.
Agree Jonty. That's why I am skeptical about Harry Reid's comments. They almost look like a codeword about - we don't really want to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonty Rhodes
HR3012 would be passed only after the Nov elections. Otherwise, we would have received update by now.
It appears so. I am having doubts if this ever could become law.
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Originally Posted by A_Tech_Softie
<sigh> There is a lot of headwind against the bill now. It had virtually none in the house. The opposition took cognizance after Grassley did his hold. Opposition just blossomed after he undid his hold and is now a rushing flood with his amendments. Yet all seems serene in the world of senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by bvsamrat
If it is not passed before the election, the momentum will be lost and it is hard to tell if and when it would pass. Every time we thought this bill is dead, it has come back and surprised us. It seems difficult to stay positive though. There is absolutely no new news coming out. Last week, someone suggested it could be added to Cyber Security. Although this seems weird, weird seems to be the norm in senate. Schumer was planning to introduce gun control amendment to cyber security. He could as well add HR 3012 to it.
NOw the talk is to add it to senator Leahy's EB5 bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by rupen86
That being the case, they can introduce it in late September when EB5 is about to expire. That will create some urgency to pass it but I had read that EB5 is already added to appropriation bill. May be, they do not take up that appropriation bill which will create some kind of urgency to pass 3012 along with EB5. That being the case, we have to rest till September which seems to be the case now as I think chances of passing it before August recess seems very bleak now. Do we know Senate's September schedule ?Quote:
Originally Posted by chengisk