General Immigration Discussion

Our case is different from what was happened in SA. Gandhi was fighting for the birth rights of citizens who were born in
SA to immigrant parents or ancenstors . I really dont know whether we have any right here as an ALIEN .

It is also true that Gandhi was a millionaire back home , But how many of us are financially settled
and courageous enough to raise our voice against exploitaton and injustice.

First of all no one is willing to speak against salary difference between a citizen and a H1b holder . We very well admit everything and
manage to live here because we are not ready to leave .

Infosys exploited the Visa system, and the Infosys employee , one who reported this visa fruad to USCIS was not an Indian .
All others shut their mouth and worked here for what?

I am not trying to be against anyone's view instead this is what I am thinking right now.

ok. back to predictions...any takes on October Bulletin?

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Originally Posted by Kanmani

Our case is different from what was happened in SA. Gandhi was fighting for the birth rights of citizens who were born in
SA to immigrant parents or ancenstors . I really dont know whether we have any right here as an ALIEN .

It is also true that Gandhi was a millionaire back home , But how many of us are financially settled
and courageous enough to raise our voice against exploitaton and injustice.

First of all no one is willing to speak against salary difference between a citizen and a H1b holder . We very well admit everything and
manage to live here because we are not ready to leave .

Infosys exploited the Visa system, and the Infosys employee , one who reported this visa fruad to USCIS was not an Indian .
All others shut their mouth and worked here for what?

I am not trying to be against anyone's view instead this is what I am thinking right now.

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Kanmani,
Forget about H1B fighting for injustice, due to his extreme dependence on employer for GC.

I don't think things are different in EVC model even after GC, and lot of people are working in that model after getting GC. But how many of them are fighting against injustice, if any.

Bottom line is, it is the choice we make!

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Originally Posted by leo07

ok. back to predictions...any takes on October Bulletin?

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I think India will stay put at 15-april-2007

China might advance by at the most 2 weeks.

hey... who wants a holiday on monday???

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

The first report seems right. The second one is clearly messed up.

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I hope when CO asks USCIS, hey, need to move past 15-Aug-2007, how many 140s, need to decide based on that, and they send this report :)

Hmm...i think everone wants long weeked...:o

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Originally Posted by soggadu

hey... who wants a holiday on monday???

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you can still go and work on Monday :)

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Originally Posted by soggadu

hey... who wants a holiday on monday???

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I dont want to apply fot PIO or OCI card for my daughter. i want to apply for Indian Visa. Can some one tell me under which visa category should i apply ? Can we just apply for tourist visa ?


Thanks
Ravi Menta

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Originally Posted by ravisekhar

I dont want to apply fot PIO or OCI card for my daughter. i want to apply for Indian Visa. Can some one tell me under which visa category should i apply ? Can we just apply for tourist visa ?


Thanks
Ravi Menta

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ravisekhar,
Yes, that will be tourist VISA. Please check the restrictions on tourist VISA before applying.

I would recommend PIO.

I will echo with Veni. Tourist visa is ok. But PIO is better and citizenship is best. But unless you and your wife are citizens they are not going to give the kids Indian citizenship.

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Originally Posted by ravisekhar

I dont want to apply fot PIO or OCI card for my daughter. i want to apply for Indian Visa. Can some one tell me under which visa category should i apply ? Can we just apply for tourist visa ?


Thanks
Ravi Menta

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PIO card has nothing to do with citizenship . It is just like tourist visa but has some difference which I didnt dig in to it . In a situation if a PIO card holder wants to stay beyond 6 months , he/she has to report to the local police station for clearance ( by law)

Though all the NRI s' refer it as dual citizenship , in reality India has no option of dual citizenship . Any PIO or OCI card holder cannot obtain a Indian Passport , cannot stay beyond 6 months without notice, cannot vote or buy land or property . But they can inherit the ancestoral properties.

Dual citizenship in other countries really mean dual citizenship, for example Canadians can hold number of passports . travel with a USA passport to enter USA and with Canadian passport to go back home .

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Originally Posted by Kanmani

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PIO card has nothing to do with citizenship . It is just like tourist visa but has some difference which I didnt dig in to it . In a situation if a PIO card holder wants to stay beyond 6 months , he/she has to report to the local police station for clearance ( by law)

Though all the NRI s' refer it as dual citizenship , in reality India has no option of dual citizenship . Any PIO or OCI card holder cannot obtain a Indian Passport , cannot stay beyond 6 months without notice, cannot vote or buy land or property . But they can inherit the ancestoral properties.

Dual citizenship in other countries really mean dual citizenship, for example Canadians can hold number of passports . travel with a USA passport to enter USA and with Canadian passport to go back home .

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Kanmani,
As Q pointed above to be eligible for OCI, one of the parents must be US Citizen or the applicant must me 18 years or older, applicant parents/grandparents held INDIAN citizenship (current/past).

One with OCI can stay as long as he/she wish and is not required to report to local police station, but not with PIO.

Right. .... additionally - both PIO and OCI can be considered Indian persons when applying to educational institutes. I am 100% sure OCI can buy property. 90% confident that PIOs can too buy property.

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Originally Posted by veni001

Kanmani,
As Q pointed above to be eligible for OCI, one of the parents must be US Citizen or the applicant must me 18 years or older, applicant parents/grandparents held INDIAN citizenship (current/past).

One with OCI can stay as long as he/she wish and is not required to report to local police station, but not with PIO.

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Ministry of Homeland affairs website says both cannot acquire agaricultural/ plantation lands . I doubt on residential properties.

here.....http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/oci-chart.pdf

There you go from teh same document. Partity everywhere except in Political field and buying agri land.

Parity with NRIs in respect of all facilities available to the later in the economic, financial and educational fields
except in maters relating to the acquisition of agricultural/ plantation properties.
No parity shall be allowed in the sphere of political rights.

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Originally Posted by Kanmani

Ministry of Homeland affairs website says both cannot acquire agaricultural/ plantation lands . I doubt on residential properties.

here.....http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/oci-chart.pdf

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@RMS_V13 I see your point of no benefit thru the petition but allow me to flip the question on you.
Do you think this (or any similar) petition can cause any harm to our cause of reducing the GC backlogs and wait times?

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Originally Posted by RMS_V13

Q: I would have expected you to have responded better than that. Besides being impractical, this petition makes absolutely 0 sense and this is from a person that has lived in the US longer than what is mentioned in the petition.

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The most hated woman in China came to USA last year and she is working in a nail salon in NYC. She already got her green card through refugee path. Many talented Phds are still waiting after ten years in USA. What a joke!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...otDDDDeSDGRhxL

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Originally Posted by cool_mj007

@RMS_V13 I see your point of no benefit thru the petition but allow me to flip the question on you.
Do you think this (or any similar) petition can cause any harm to our cause of reducing the GC backlogs and wait times?

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This % limit based on country-of-birth looks like the reservation quota in India. There is reservation everywhere whether it be for admissions to school/colleges or jobs. I think it needs to be abolished as well. It should be purely based on merits and not on caste/religion/etc. But instead of abolishing people want more and more reservation. May be someone like Annaji can do something about it.

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Originally Posted by qblogfan

The most hated woman in China came to USA last year and she is working in a nail salon in NYC. She already got her green card through refugee path. Many talented Phds are still waiting after ten years in USA. What a joke!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...otDDDDeSDGRhxL

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seriously man. what a joke. I am at loss of words.

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Originally Posted by qblogfan

The most hated woman in China came to USA last year and she is working in a nail salon in NYC. She already got her green card through refugee path. Many talented Phds are still waiting after ten years in USA. What a joke!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...otDDDDeSDGRhxL

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You appear to be quite an interesting character.
No offense! (in good spirits for consistent ranting)

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Originally Posted by qblogfan

The most hated woman in China came to USA last year and she is working in a nail salon in NYC. She already got her green card through refugee path. Many talented Phds are still waiting after ten years in USA. What a joke!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...otDDDDeSDGRhxL

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Interesting...let me marry her. I am suitable and I will get out of this GC cycle and blood sucking bosses at least.

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Originally Posted by nishant2200

seriously man. what a joke. I am at loss of words.

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bhaiya, joke tau hamara ban gava.

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Originally Posted by self.coach

Interesting...let me marry her. I am suitable and I will get out of this GC cycle and blood sucking bosses at least.

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usually women become most hated after marriage... voilaa... u r lucky... u r marrying a woman who is already the most hated...

waise... what do you self coach in? just wondering ;-)

yeah, I just feel the current system is not fair to EB immigrants. Sorry for ranting.

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Originally Posted by shivarajan

You appear to be quite an interesting character.
No offense! (in good spirits for consistent ranting)

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Originally Posted by self.coach

Interesting...let me marry her. I am suitable and I will get out of this GC cycle and blood sucking bosses at least.

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LOL ! Think 1000 times before you decide to marry her...pehele USCIS ke nakhare sehene pade......phir iske nakhare sehen karne padenge ( you will get rid of one trouble but will invite another trouble)

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Originally Posted by qblogfan

The most hated woman in China came to USA last year and she is working in a nail salon in NYC. She already got her green card through refugee path. Many talented Phds are still waiting after ten years in USA. What a joke!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...otDDDDeSDGRhxL

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So, the easiest way to GC is to become the most hated person in your country...hmmm...interesting..Wonder what I would have to do to go that path ???? LOL!!!

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Originally Posted by soggadu

usually women become most hated after marriage... voilaa... u r lucky... u r marrying a woman who is already the most hated...

waise... what do you self coach in? just wondering ;-)

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I self coach in the sainthood of giggityness :P

Q - sorry boss for a 'slight' diviation to subject (dont boot me pls)!

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Originally Posted by Monica12

So, the easiest way to GC is to become the most hated person in your country...hmmm...interesting..Wonder what I would have to do to go that path ???? LOL!!!

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Lets see the check list whether you qualify...

1. Female --> Your name sounds like u r a female... Done
2. Foreign Country born --> :-) Done
3. Want to get GC --> Done
4. Status is/will be current --> Done come Oct 01
5. Most hated --> hmm...abb ye toh woh baat ho gayi na... You have to try very very hard to be hated dear... i see no chance for you to get qualified on this merit...

Final result --> Let me see.... i am using specs complicated algorithm here....Voilaaaa....you will still be getting your GC next month... because love > hate.... samjhe kung phuu panda ....

Soggadu bhai

:) good one .You sir are the comedy king around here .
One doubt though :) with that quote of yours did you mean Monica behen is sorta of like the http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MXemDNGwy4...00-185-122.png and you are trying to make her see the light.

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Originally Posted by soggadu

Final result --> Let me see.... i am using specs complicated algorithm here....Voilaaaa....you will still be getting your GC next month... because love > hate.... samjhe kung phuu panda ....

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Originally Posted by gcseeker

Soggadu bhai

:) good one .You sir are the comedy king around here .
One doubt though :) with that quote of yours did you mean Monica behen is sorta of like the http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MXemDNGwy4...00-185-122.png and you are trying to make her see the light.

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Soggadu, Gcseeker...LMAO !!!!!!!!! You guys are the best !!!!
Personal disclaimer : I hereby abandon all my plans to become the most hated person in India.

Good one!!

for a moment i thought...you were referring to me... (last word in your post panda)

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Originally Posted by soggadu

Lets see the check list whether you qualify...

1. Female --> Your name sounds like u r a female... Done
2. Foreign Country born --> :-) Done
3. Want to get GC --> Done
4. Status is/will be current --> Done come Oct 01
5. Most hated --> hmm...abb ye toh woh baat ho gayi na... You have to try very very hard to be hated dear... i see no chance for you to get qualified on this merit...

Final result --> Let me see.... i am using specs complicated algorithm here....Voilaaaa....you will still be getting your GC next month... because love > hate.... samjhe kung phuu panda ....

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Please sign this petition

Fix Admin Processing

http://wh.gov/4E9

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Originally Posted by smuggymba

Please sign this petition

Fix Admin Processing

http://wh.gov/4E9

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Will sign it. But for folks who live in and around the DC area, how about making an appointment with the CIS ombudsman and explain him the situation. Meanwhile we should continue to write to senators/ representatives.

Humne sign kar diya hei Manubhai. What's the time frame for this to pass?

This petition is close to getting the required 5000 signatures.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/allow-seriously-backlogged-eb2eb3-beneficiaries-their-i-140-approved-file-i-485-and-apply-ead-ap/d3D62yTt

It has obtained the required number of signatures!!!

5k is the passing limit. The more the better!

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Originally Posted by kd2008

This petition is close to getting the required 5000 signatures.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/allow-seriously-backlogged-eb2eb3-beneficiaries-their-i-140-approved-file-i-485-and-apply-ead-ap/d3D62yTt

It has obtained the required number of signatures!!!

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https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...avily/1NLS8G5c

this one needs some help to reach 5k

Friends please go through the following links for New York mayor's address on immigration

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/blo...MW_latest_news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waXX6ioaAhc

the following video is more clear.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/M...FullAbstract=1

Hope the talks turn into some action..

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Originally Posted by iamdeb

Friends please go through the following links for New York mayor's address on immigration

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/blo...MW_latest_news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waXX6ioaAhc

the following video is more clear.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/M...FullAbstract=1

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