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Even after earning 300 or 400K and more vs. those people earning 50K-60K doing fundamental research in basic sciences, do you really feel the overall system (GC is a part of that) is biased against you? Also, a person earning that much salary can easily qualify for EB-5 immigrant investor program with a couple of years' salary investment. What is so unfair about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzone
This can be answered in two ways:Quote:
Originally Posted by getsaby
1) Policy makers point of view (i.e. if you are part of government how would you do it).
2) Activists point of view (i.e. if I were to do advocacy).
Which one do you mean?
Perhaps a simple solution is to divvy up EB1 to 3 not based on anything else except base salary tier. EB1 300K and above. EB2 - 200K and above and EB3 - 120K and above. I mean the tiers could be different ... but just to give an example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzone
Is it a sin to be successful?! I never said a fundamental researcher shouldn't get it! Its your assumption. Also, when this topic morphed into a overall discussion about the larger system. The SYSTEM I'm talking about is just the immigration system. I'm saying a homegrown exec. should also be considered for it and be elligible. EB-5 is a personal matter of choice and its an investor program for those who chose to invest its not in lieu of employment based categories. You are comparing apples and oranges there.Quote:
Originally Posted by vedu
Zenzone,Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzone
I may have inadvertently misunderstood your point about EB1 international manager fraud. I agree that any type of fraud should be removed from the system and those with Merit (based on salary, etc.) should get it on a first come, first serve basis! Also, it is always good to be appreciative of the fact that no matter how flawed this immigration system is, it still made you SUCCESSFUL. And you won't deny that...would you?
Again, I never complained about the larger system at all. But that's a moot point here as we talked about only the EB immigration system. I hear you on factoring the merits based on salary etc. is also an important criterion.Quote:
Originally Posted by vedu
Selfishly I will vote a big YES for that proposal. Alongside with rewarding scholars and PhDs as the system does today.Quote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
I will also vote a big YES for such a proposal. If you really need to hire an immigrant to do a job, then you need to pay up to show that it is a critical need that can't be fulfilled with local employees. Unfortunately, such a proposal will leave all nurses out of the game. So be it, we really can't afford to create carve outs for individual professions. That will create another mess of a system then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzone
I guess we need to look at the education system, why doesn't so many people from public schools drop out and do not go into nursing instead of landing in a fast food or store jobs. If the price and turnarounds from community colleges are increased bringing it as a vocational item you may have a lot of people opting to do nursing here itself after high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by vedu
Is EB1 fraud still going on? Or Grassleys and Durbins are only after H1Bs?
Head of the thread updated with final conclusion (at least as of today).
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Originally Posted by qesehmk
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I understand your points and agree with your argument. I did not say Republicans are friends of legal immigration , I said people had bad experience during Democrats rule. BTW, I respect your service to the community . I am no fan of IV or GOP . All politicians are same including Durbin.
No worries my friend. I have personally beaten this topic to death because I strongly felt that Durbin who is jewish, and actually loves India and is pro-immigration was unnecessarily getting bad mouthed by IV.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarAwayfromGC
As far as you and I are concerned, we are on the same side. Our perspectives may be slightly different but goal is the same. Alleviate this suffering of ALL backlogged folks. Good luck to you!
https://www.lexisnexis.com/LegalNews...ion-levels-mpi
I really hope that some kind of additional funding is included in one of these upcoming mega bills to avoid this. This will have devastating consequences for the last 4 months of the year
This from Indian Immigration forum @theimmiforum
BREAKING NEWS! Watch this space for news to evolve on #S386!
We are thankful to those who support positive advocacy. We will continue to fight for rights of immigrants in the backlog.
Is something in the offing? There is no noise from the other more prominent organizations from both sides
Apparently Durbin has restarted negotiations again with Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
That is awesome news although it is hard to see where the middle ground is. Sen. Durbin has almost run out the clock and is negotiating from a position of strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly
Just one poison pill is enough. With the state of affairs, even a quarter poison (toddler strength potion) will do. I feel Déjà vu all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
CIR is not happening any time in the near future no matter who comes to power so to look at that as a means to reduce the backlogs is a dead end. If current admin comes back, they still will likely lose the House and at a minimum there will be 2 more years or gridlock. Even if Biden wins, there are going to be far more important things to do as a matter of priority: dispense the vaccines, repair the economy and get people back to work and that rightfully will be most important.
Even though we have seen this story running in various formats for last 10 years, the story attracts the same loyal viewers looking for a different end.Quote:
Originally Posted by idliman
This is just for optics. When this is not passed and he’s blamed for it for years down the line, he can always claim he tried multiple times for it. Future-proofing himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
I strongly feel that this must have been the other way around. Sen. Durbin has no incentive to negotiate after what happened on the senate floor. There is limited time before the August recess and momentum is hard to regain. Sen. Durbin objected to the bill last September and its nearly 10 months since. I am sure they have been talking all this time to break the impasse. Hopefully there is a resolutionQuote:
Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly
My usual view is that the party with the majority holds the upper hand and the bargaining power because ultimately Lee needs the ok from McConnell to do anything on the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
All drama and tactics. The draft of Durbin's negotiation is already floating around. D knows august recess starts in 2 days and the Senate will have already checked out. He leaks things at 5:00 pm Getting Lee to agree without checking with other republicans will not happen. This when the Republicans cant agree on their own COVID relief package. Will they focus on the covid bill or this?....Lee will object if this thing is brought to a UC tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly
Do you have a link for the draft handy?Quote:
Originally Posted by android09
New draft of #s386Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly
@SenatorDurbin & @SenMikeLee TODAY (almost accepted) :
1. No 50:50 rule for 2 yr
2. No GC number increase
3. 15% to 5 % for ROW from year 1 to year 5 gradually decreasing
What I saw on twitter
Thanks. The timeline is tight to get it done in the next two days with all the other fights going on. Kinda crazy how the UC works though that the whole thing could be done and over in 5 min or someone can object and completely derail it.
According to the poster these are the parts that are agreed to. So they split the difference between the 1 year that Durbin asked for against the 3 years in senator Lee's March bill. Nasscomm may still have issues with it. The lack of increase in green cards was expected. The transition period details are not clear past the 5th year. The only sticking point is the timing of EAD issuance. I hope it is retained at 270 days because a lot of students can convert from OPT to EAD
Senate is in session next week. State work period does not start till Monday Aug 10 and lasts till after Labor day (sep 7)Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly
Ok that’s encouraging news. Maybe the last chance for country cap removal. If it doesn’t go through this time around, if Dems come to power, they will surely gut this and start over again and let it languish for another 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
I think if it really comes for UC then it will pass. The EAD provision will ensure that the US still remains attractive to foreign students from ROWQuote:
Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly
Even if it passes, doesn't it still have to be reconciled with the House bill?
My gut feeling is that the house will pass it fairly quickly. It's fate will become uncertain if it has to go back to the senate for a second timeQuote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
It is like having 2 parallel universes. On one side is hyper-anti-immigration environment, economy and unemployment issues like never before, and looming elections with its gazillion dynamics and calculations.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
And on the other side is S386 and how it is perceived.
Even if the compromise is reached, expect S386 to be blocked, more likely by Republicans or the admin. Unfortunately the time for the bill was in pre-Covid days.
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Originally Posted by qesehmk
Thank you , whatever the politician are doing - - good or bad, we need to stay positive and hope to see something good at the end. I appreciate the work you do in that direction and to keep the community informed and motivated.
The same twitter source also says that it is in drafting stage for possible UC next week. Maybe explains why things are quiet today as nothing seems to be happening imminentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly
Dont mean to pour cold water. But this is really Lee's bill where his own party is not with him. So the onus is on Lee. He has to be creative to bring his party on board. My own sense is the clock has already run out. But of course miracles can happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
If the offer indeed came from Sen.Durbin then there is at least a willingness to reach a solution. With only 7 legislative weeks left before the election (which could be less if senators want more time for campaigning) he could have held his block and run the clock out. As I mentioned earlier if the Democrats take the Senate he is a front runner for the Judiciary chairmanship and could shape the legislation better. However it remains to be seen whether this is any more palatable to the Republicans.The December deal was a great one and had everybody generally OK with it. Too bad Senator Lee could not get all of his GOP colleagues on boardQuote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
After a long time, I am keeping an eye on Senate proceedings to see if Durbin or Lee bring anything up. But so far the fight over the Unemployment funding is what's been going on.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/f...ivity_pail.htm
You are absolutely correct. I think great strides have been made. But I feel that the clock has already run out. I am 99% sure that if pushed the right way this will pass during next administration (if it's a Democratic admin). Can't vouch for Trump admin to pass it. So all in all no reason to be sad even if it doesn't pass now.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968