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06-13-2014, 03:12 PM
qesehmk

Viz

I think there is a fine difference between "Documentarily Qualified" and "Pre-adjudicated". Perhaps Kanmani and Spec and can chime in.

My understanding is that former means all checkboxes checked. The latter means ... all checkboxes checked and verified.

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Originally Posted by vizcard

I dont mean to be a debbie downer but until May 31 everyone was "pre-adjudicated" - thats why we saw the demand data the way it is. Pre-adjudicated means "documentarily qualified". If the 693 is invalid, by definition one is not "documentarily qualified". While there is a chance that people will get through without a RFE, I would not rely on the term "pre-adjudicated" meaning no more RFEs.
06-13-2014, 03:28 PM
helpful_leo

Quote:

Originally Posted by vizcard

I dont mean to be a debbie downer but until May 31 everyone was "pre-adjudicated" - thats why we saw the demand data the way it is. Pre-adjudicated means "documentarily qualified". If the 693 is invalid, by definition one is not "documentarily qualified". While there is a chance that people will get through without a RFE, I would not rely on the term "pre-adjudicated" meaning no more RFEs.

Fully aware of that.

Maybe for various reasons - randomness / incompetence / luck - some folks remained 'pre-adjudicated' (although they should not have) while others are getting RFEs?

Just trying to list possible causes for a small but significant % people who are not receiving RFEs.
06-13-2014, 03:29 PM
aug152008

My RFE letter said ' though your case was pre-adjudicated' we need evl, 693 etc
06-13-2014, 03:36 PM
Spectator

Quote:

Originally Posted by qbloguser

Yep!

Found this on trackitt (from USCIS)

"To maximize visa number usage while working off its backlog, USCIS has adopted a production strategy that focuses on completing cases where visas are immediately available and on working cases to the point just short of approval (pre-adjudication) where visas will be available in the coming months. Pre-adjudication includes completing all required background checks and resolving all eligibility issues except for visa availability. This allows for immediate approval and visa number allocation as visas become available for pre-adjudicated cases."

That quote comes from April 2008 http://www.uscis.gov.edgesuite-stagi...00082ca60aRCRD and simply describes what pre-adjudication is.

The case has to be checked again to see that all eligibilities still remain before it can be finally approved.

A case cannot be approved if the I-693 is no longer valid. Up until May 31, 2014, the I-693 had received validity extensions since 2002. That is no longer the case.

In the teleconference yesterday, it is reported that USCIS confirmed that everyone who is likely to become current in the near future, who would have an I-693 more than one year old, will receive an RFE.
06-13-2014, 04:39 PM
sibnet

Quote:

Originally Posted by sairam09

Right now the RFE's are sent only to EB3-I until December. No news about EB2-I at all.

I got RFE thru SMS from USCIS today. EB-2 I - Priority Date: December 10, 2008.
06-13-2014, 05:05 PM
cool_mj007

Received RFE (email and text) for myself and my wife.
PD: July 2009
RD: Feb 2012
06-13-2014, 08:39 PM
vizcard

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpful_leo

Just trying to list possible causes for a small but significant % people who are not receiving RFEs.

i hear u. I'm just as baffled by the order in which people are getting RFEs. But the USCIS works in mysterious ways.
06-13-2014, 09:17 PM
suninphx

Oct 2009 stared getting RFE now...
http://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussi...page/last_page
06-14-2014, 02:20 PM
helpful_leo

Quote:

Originally Posted by vizcard

i hear u. I'm just as baffled by the order in which people are getting RFEs. But the USCIS works in mysterious ways.

Seems it was random. Just got texts regarding the RFE.

Are people here waiting to get the RFE before renewing the I-693, or getting it ready ahead of time so as to send it ASAP?
06-14-2014, 08:54 PM
geevikram

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpful_leo

Seems it was random. Just got texts regarding the RFE.

Are people here waiting to get the RFE before renewing the I-693, or getting it ready ahead of time so as to send it ASAP?

helpful_leo, I just got mine ahead of time. My pd is 7/3/2008 and no RFE yet. My case is at NSC. I see RFE's for folks that are non-NSC. I don't know how this random process of approval works. Going to call up USCIS on Monday to check whether I need to send my I693 or not. I've a lot of things contingent upon getting GC this year including a career change..hope uscis does not screw up this year too.
06-14-2014, 09:07 PM
vizcard

Quote:

Originally Posted by geevikram

helpful_leo, I just got mine ahead of time. My pd is 7/3/2008 and no RFE yet. My case is at NSC. I see RFE's for folks that are non-NSC. I don't know how this random process of approval works. Going to call up USCIS on Monday to check whether I need to send my I693 or not. I've a lot of things contingent upon getting GC this year including a career change..hope uscis does not screw up this year too.

vikram
don't send anything unless asked for. i would ask USCIS whether everyone is getting a I693 RFE and if yes, tell them u haven't gotten yours and you will be current in July. Also, make sure they have the right address for you.

PS: Let the board know if USCIS says everyone IS getting a RFE for I693
06-15-2014, 10:03 AM
geevikram

Quote:

Originally Posted by vizcard

vikram
don't send anything unless asked for. i would ask USCIS whether everyone is getting a I693 RFE and if yes, tell them u haven't gotten yours and you will be current in July. Also, make sure they have the right address for you.

PS: Let the board know if USCIS says everyone IS getting a RFE for I693

Yes viz, I'm not sending mine. I just have mine handy. Plan to call them first thing Monday morning. Also from what i've read everywhere NSC folks seem to be affected most, in the sense, we have not got our RFE's.
06-15-2014, 03:00 PM
enigma

I received RFE notification email and text on Thursday, July 12th. My PD is April 2009. Will post details of the RFE once I receive physical copy in the mail.
06-15-2014, 09:17 PM
iamsam

Hi All
My PD is Jan 5, 2009. EB2I, TSC. No RFE yet. I had filed my I-485 concurrently with I-140 (successor in Interest) in Mar 2012. My I-485 receipt notice listed receipt date as my PD. My lawyer was OK with that since my I-140 approval notice later had correct PD listed.
So i am wondering if one of the reason that my case is not looked at yet (or no RFE issued yet) is this incorrect PD on my Receipt notice. Basically they could be issuing RFE to "simple and straightforward" hassle free cases and people like me who need slightly extra scrutiny (such as I-140 "Successor in Interest" porting PD from original I-140) would be last in the queue and may miss the boat.
Any comments?

Thanks
06-15-2014, 10:15 PM
helpful_leo

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsfan33

Quite amazing to see a confirmed pattern of RFEs all the way up to October.

Now I have started worrying though. PD 10/2008 and no RFE yet. No change in online status, no email/text. I think I am gonna talk to an L2 again tomorrow.

One thing though: they might be going by the RD. I submitted late in March 2012. There might be still time. I can turn around an RFE response in 2 days myself.

Another surprising thing is several people current next month (original filers, not porters too) have not received RFEs. I wonder how their cases will be handled.

Good luck all.

I was in a similar situation till Saturday - when I got the mails/ texts reg. RFE (PD mid Dec 2008, RD Jan 1st week 2012, TSC) and was relieved. You make a good point about RD.

I was also quite annoyed by the randomness of the RFEs - mid 2009s getting it but not 2008ers.

My sense is, you will get it most likely within next 2 weeks, and definitely before the month you are current.

Now I worry about if the RFEs are about something besides I-693 / EVL : )
06-15-2014, 10:18 PM
helpful_leo

Quote:

Originally Posted by geevikram

helpful_leo, I just got mine ahead of time. My pd is 7/3/2008 and no RFE yet. My case is at NSC. I see RFE's for folks that are non-NSC. I don't know how this random process of approval works. Going to call up USCIS on Monday to check whether I need to send my I693 or not. I've a lot of things contingent upon getting GC this year including a career change..hope uscis does not screw up this year too.

I think you will get it very soon, likely this week itself.

So you got the I-693 ready before getting the RFE itself?
Did the surgeon not have issues with that? Somebody here mentioned that some surgeons ask to see the RFE?
06-16-2014, 07:33 AM
gcpursuit

I saw that people have received RFEs till October 2009 but almost all of the RFEs for PDs beyond May 2009 ( except for a couple of them ) are from NSC.I found it odd. Does that mean anything or will TSC catch up?
06-16-2014, 10:39 AM
geevikram

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpful_leo

I think you will get it very soon, likely this week itself.

So you got the I-693 ready before getting the RFE itself?
Did the surgeon not have issues with that? Somebody here mentioned that some surgeons ask to see the RFE?

Surgeon had no issues. All he needed was $248 :( . Will be picking up my packet today, hopefully. Sports makes a valid point. They might be sending out RFE by RD's. I sent it late Apr'12, so I may not receive it soon.
06-16-2014, 12:55 PM
vkrishna

All, a question --> My PD is Feb 2009 and the case updated on June 6th to RFE. My lawyer still has not received the actual RFE. Generally how long does it take after USCIS posts the RFE
06-16-2014, 01:35 PM
GCHopes

Not sure if RFE by receive dates add up? My receive date was in January while most of the late 2009's applications become current in March!! I really hope we are missing something here because if everyone needs a RFE prior to getting greened, and the fact that i've not got one yet does not add up at all!! This is soo frustrating for all the folks who will be current in July and don't yet have a RFE while everyone else up until Oct 2009 seem to be getting one!!!!!!!!!
06-16-2014, 06:37 PM
geevikram

Quote:

Originally Posted by geevikram

Surgeon had no issues. All he needed was $248 :( . Will be picking up my packet today, hopefully. Sports makes a valid point. They might be sending out RFE by RD's. I sent it late Apr'12, so I may not receive it soon.

Guys, As I was picking up my packet from doc's office, I got the RFE SMS. Kinda strange, it typically happens the other way around :)
06-16-2014, 06:55 PM
helpful_leo

Quote:

Originally Posted by geevikram

Guys, As I was picking up my packet from doc's office, I got the RFE SMS. Kinda strange, it typically happens the other way around :)

Well, this is what I said just some hours ago : )

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Originally Posted by helpful_leo

I think you will get it very soon, likely this week itself.
06-16-2014, 07:01 PM
geevikram

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpful_leo

Well, this is what I said just some hours ago : )

That's what I was thinking too..
06-16-2014, 07:36 PM
sp2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by geevikram

helpful_leo, I just got mine ahead of time. My pd is 7/3/2008 and no RFE yet. My case is at NSC. I see RFE's for folks that are non-NSC. I don't know how this random process of approval works. Going to call up USCIS on Monday to check whether I need to send my I693 or not. I've a lot of things contingent upon getting GC this year including a career change..hope uscis does not screw up this year too.

Vikram,
so much of coincidence.
my PD is 07/03/2008 as well. i did not get RFE yet. Baffled by this.
just getting the Medicals done in case.
Hope they do the right thing is correct order.
06-17-2014, 10:15 AM
qbloguser

Received email/SMS for address change update on my case. It was in acceptance state before and now it is initial review. Now, let's wait for rfe!!! PD 10-Apr-2009 TSC

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Originally Posted by qbloguser

I agree. Pre-Adj means nothing. I am still expecting an RFE, at least for I693!
06-17-2014, 10:48 AM
iwait3

PD: 3/23/2009, NSC (Actual PD : 2/23/2009 mistake made by USCIS on I-140) Received RFE email on 6/16/2014.
06-17-2014, 11:06 AM
geevikram

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp2008

Vikram,
so much of coincidence.
my PD is 07/03/2008 as well. i did not get RFE yet. Baffled by this.
just getting the Medicals done in case.
Hope they do the right thing is correct order.

Just call their automated telephone number and listen to the latest update on your case. That's what I did. I did not speak to any CSR. 4 hrs after that I got an SMS. Could be a coincidence, but doesn't hurt to try, right? It is almost assured that you will get an RFE, so getting medicals ready ahead of time is a good idea.
06-17-2014, 12:24 PM
gc2008

Just finished conversation with L2 officer. He said that my case was pre adjudicated back in march 2012 and at this moment they do not need anything from me. This means they have not touched my case after March 2012 :(. God only knows when will I get RFE ... waiting continues ...
06-17-2014, 04:21 PM
shekhar_kuruk

Just got a RFE email for additional evidence.
06-17-2014, 04:47 PM
imdeng

Received SMS 4:13 CST today. The case status for both the 485 applications (principal and dependent) has changed to RFE. EB2I NSC Aug-7, 2009. Now the wait for what's in the RFE.
Update: Interestingly, no email. Just two texts.
06-17-2014, 08:24 PM
vedu

Imdeng,

Good news! Now let's hope that dates move past your PD and you get greened this season!

Quote:

Originally Posted by imdeng

Received SMS 4:13 CST today. The case status for both the 485 applications (principal and dependent) has changed to RFE. EB2I NSC Aug-7, 2009. Now the wait for what's in the RFE.
Update: Interestingly, no email. Just two texts.
06-17-2014, 10:10 PM
helpful_leo

Basic Q guys:

1/I see posts at many places regarding lawyers getting and responding to the RFEs.
Till recently I was under the assumption that this can be sent directly by us as these are simple enough.
Do lawyers always get the RFEs, and do they need to be involved in responding to them?

2/ We got texts and e-mails last week, and today I got the RFE mail but my wife did not.
Is it common for RFEs sent at same time to same address to not arrive at the same time?

Thanks!
06-18-2014, 06:21 AM
imdeng

Thank you for your wishes Vedu. Much appreciated.

Update on RFE - did get emails late last night.

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Originally Posted by vedu

Imdeng,

Good news! Now let's hope that dates move past your PD and you get greened this season!
06-18-2014, 06:24 AM
imdeng

1. If you filed G-28 form along with your 485, then your lawyer will get a copy of any communication with you. You can, however, decide to file the response yourself - if you are okay with it.
2. Yup - some delivery time discrepancy is fine. Couple days this way or another. If its more than 2 days then see if your lawyer got a copy and if not then get on phone to USCIS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpful_leo

Basic Q guys:

1/I see posts at many places regarding lawyers getting and responding to the RFEs.
Till recently I was under the assumption that this can be sent directly by us as these are simple enough.
Do lawyers always get the RFEs, and do they need to be involved in responding to them?

2/ We got texts and e-mails last week, and today I got the RFE mail but my wife did not.
Is it common for RFEs sent at same time to same address to not arrive at the same time?

Thanks!
06-18-2014, 08:21 AM
helpful_leo

Quote:

Originally Posted by imdeng

1. If you filed G-28 form along with your 485, then your lawyer will get a copy of any communication with you. You can, however, decide to file the response yourself - if you are okay with it.
2. Yup - some delivery time discrepancy is fine. Couple days this way or another. If its more than 2 days then see if your lawyer got a copy and if not then get on phone to USCIS.

Thanks imdeng.

I googled what a G28 is. The lawyers sent our paperwork but I don't recall filing that form. I will check with them also.

Is there anything in the RFEs themselves to indicate we may have filed the G28 - in case both my lawyer and I mis-remember?
06-18-2014, 09:11 AM
la_2002_ch

Your second point seems to be a common occurrence this time around. We received the RFE Email about 2 weeks back and the lawyer received the RGE details for my wife on last Friday, but no sign of my RFE details as yet. Also I have not received anything at all. Not sure if they sent those out to just the attorney or I just haven't received them as yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpful_leo

Basic Q guys:

1/I see posts at many places regarding lawyers getting and responding to the RFEs.
Till recently I was under the assumption that this can be sent directly by us as these are simple enough.
Do lawyers always get the RFEs, and do they need to be involved in responding to them?

2/ We got texts and e-mails last week, and today I got the RFE mail but my wife did not.
Is it common for RFEs sent at same time to same address to not arrive at the same time?

Thanks!
06-18-2014, 09:32 AM
qesehmk

Leo

If it's 485 then you are in charge. Even if you filled G28 you can still choose to respond yourself. It depends on your level of comfort as well as complexity of RFE. So judge yourself the cost of lawyer vs risk of RFE involved and don''t worry about prior G28.

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpful_leo

Thanks imdeng.

I googled what a G28 is. The lawyers sent our paperwork but I don't recall filing that form. I will check with them also.

Is there anything in the RFEs themselves to indicate we may have filed the G28 - in case both my lawyer and I mis-remember?
06-18-2014, 09:50 AM
geevikram

Did anybody here receive the actual RFE letter? Specificlaly leo, viz..
06-18-2014, 10:00 AM
helpful_leo

Quote:

Originally Posted by qesehmk

Leo

If it's 485 then you are in charge. Even if you filled G28 you can still choose to respond yourself. It depends on your level of comfort as well as complexity of RFE. So judge yourself the cost of lawyer vs risk of RFE involved and don''t worry about prior G28.

Thanks Q.
The lawyer is free, so that isn't an issue - but this concept is good to know.
06-18-2014, 10:01 AM
helpful_leo

Quote:

Originally Posted by geevikram

Did anybody here receive the actual RFE letter? Specificlaly leo, viz..

I did, but not my wife.

It is along expected lines. No unpleasant surprises!

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