Originally this was the idea from an Indian professor from Harvard. Forgot the name.
This particular bill may get passed but will hardly help EB2IC because the price range starts at half million dollars and secondly - hold your breath - it must be in CASH!!!
For most EB2ICs that are backlogged - both conditions - especially the second one- make this bill difficult to feel good about.
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Originally Posted by desiman
No inside info. Haven't heard anything other than this will definitely get back on the mark up queue, probably for next week, and that the phone calls need to be sustained. I haven't made them in the last couple of days but i'm going to make another round today.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportsfan33
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Originally Posted by qesehmk
They can clear the EB-3 India china backlogs by making the dates at least as good as EB-2 IC date at present that is Dec 2007. Result: Housing will improve, auto sales will improve, this will help economy, then they do not require any out of mind bills like this. all politics and politricks. Again regarding the H.R. 3012...is it not a Carrot and later changed into a Stick!
It has been added to the calendar for 10/27. It is again the last bill so am not sure if they will get to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by skpanda
Really wish that this bill will pass both Congress and Senate and becomes law... by whatever way and doing whatever is in our control!Quote:
Originally Posted by immi2910
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/mark_10252011.html
It is on the markup calendar for Oct. 25th and 27th.
Keep calling and keep pushing!
From ** Forum:
We need one simple action item from you for Thursday and Friday this week -- make calls the offices listed below and say one simple thing :
"My name is _______. I would like Congressman/Congresswoman ______ to support H.R. 3012 that removes the per-country quota from employment based immigration. Thank you".
Below are the phone numbers and names of Congressman and Congresswomen in House Judiciary Committee that really matter this week and next week for this bill. Spare 15 minutes of time to do this and just do it if you have not already. If you called earlier this week, call again. Numbers matter. Call volume matters. Democracy works only for those who show up. It's time to do your part.
Rep.Lamar Smith [TX, 21st District] - 202-225-4236
Rep.Jason Chaffetz [UT, 3rd District] - 202-225-7751
Rep.Bob Goodlatte [VA, 6th District] - 202-225-5431
Rep.Zoe Lofgren [CA, 16th District] - 202-225-3072
Rep.Pedro Pierluisi [Puerto Rico] - 202-225-2615
Rep.John Conyers [MI, 14th District] - 202-225-5126
Rep.Howard Berman [CA, 28th District] - 202-225-4695
Rep. Elton Gallegly [CA – 24th District] - 202-225-5811
Rep.Steve Chabot [OH, 1st District]- 202-225-2216
Rep.Darrell Issa [CA, 49th District] - 202-225-3906
Rep.James Sensenbrenner [WI, 5th District] - 202-225-5101
Rep. Howard Coble [NC, 6th District] - 202-225-3065
Rep.Daniel Lungren [CA, 3rd District] - 202-225-5716
Rep.Mike Pence [IN, 6th District] - 202-225-3021
Rep.Randy Forbes [VA, 4th District]- 202-225-6365
Rep.Trent Franks [AZ-2nd District] - 202-225-4576
Rep.Louie Gohmert [TX, 1st District] - 202-225-3035
Rep.Jim Jordan [OH, 4th District] - 202-225-2676
Rep.Ted Poe [TX, 2nd District] - 202-225-6565
Rep.Tim Griffin [AR, 2nd District] - 202-225-2506
Rep.Tom Marino [PA, 10th District] - 202-225-3731
Rep.Trey Gowdy [SC, 4th District] - 202-225-6030
Rep.Dennis Ross [FL, 12th District] - 202-225-1252
Rep.Sandy Adams [FL, 24th District] - 202-225-2706
Rep.Ben Quayle [AZ, 3rd District] - 202-225-3361
Rep. Mark Amodei [NV, 2nd District] - 202-225-6155
Rep.Jerold Nadler [NY, 8th District] - 202-225-5635
Rep.Robert Scott [VA, 3rd District] - 202-225-8351
Rep.Mel Watt [NC, 12th District] - 202-225-1510
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee [TX, 18th District] - 202-225-3816
Rep.Maxine Waters [CA, 25th District] - 202-225-2201
Rep.Steve Cohen [TN, 9th District] - 202-225-3265
Rep.Henry Johnson [GA, 4th District] - 202-225-1605
Rep.Mike Quigley [IL, 5th District] - 202-225-4061
Rep. Judy Chu [CA, 32nd District] - 202-225-5464
Rep.Ted Deutch [FL, 19th District] - 202-225-3001
Rep.Linda Sanchez [CA, 39th District] - 202-225-6676
Finally, something official out of Sheila Murthy's office on HR3012. I'd emailed their offices a few times to get them to put something official on their legislative page, but they've done one better.
http://www.murthy.com/bulletin.html
This bulletin will get 1000s of eyeballs. I just hope all the folks that read it realize that these calls have to be made immediately. I've posted on their forum but i'm not sure if it'll be approved.
This is awesome!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro Gonzales
This is great, more people will be aware, and I personally like the following from Murthy site.
Without our input, senators and representatives will act in the way they personally think best. Due to the high volume of issues, they may not know much about a particular issue unless we have taken the time to inform them. By participating in the democratic process and sharing our views on the issues, we are ensuring that our elected officials are making informed decisions. Otherwise, senators and representatives may base their positions
http://www.murthy.com/ccongres.html
NO MORE CALLS NEEDED. PLEASE **DO NOT** call anymore. This is an action item from **.
Yes, I'm meeting with one staffer here in TX this week. We need to keep the momentum going even after is passes the committee.
Dude - the award for "patience of the millenium" goes to you!!
As per post 2012 - as long as the economy is like this, things will move 25-30K per year. An improving economy is going to hurt EB2IC. 25-30K is just about right annual rate for EB2IC. So we are talking a 1 Yr movement per year. Please understand this is very rough estimate.
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Originally Posted by smuggymba
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Originally Posted by qesehmk
smuggymba is referring to H.R.3012
I accept the award with humility.Quote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
I was referring to HR 3012...how would the predictions change..maybe this has been discussed - just point me to the right thread. Thanks.
Totally my bad! Sorry smugymba!
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Originally Posted by Kanmani
I think Spec or some other Guru did post a summary of how dates will move if HR3012 is passed and implemented in its current form. IIRC - both EB2I and EB3I benefit greatly with wait times down to almost current for EB2 and just a few months for EB3. Although, I don't have much confidence that the bill will become law anything soon.
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Originally Posted by smuggymba
I haven't read 3012 in detail. Analyis below is based on my understanding that 3012 is basically 1) removal of country cap from EB 2) increase ofcountry cap to 15% in FB.
If my understanding above is correct - here is what will happen to EB category post 3012 is passed.
1) USCIS will no longer publish dates by country. The dates will be strictly for an entire category.
2) EB1 5 4 will stay current
3) EB2 will jump by 1.5 years (from where EB2IC are. of course this means retrogression for EB2ROW)
4) EB3 will jump by 1.5-2 years (from where EB3IC are. of course this would mean dates going back for EB3ROW)
5) EB2ROW will not see a single approval for 2-3 years (take it with grain ofsalt in case there are EB2ROW cases from 2007-8-9 etc)
6) EB3 ROW's wait time will jump.
7) EB category will continue to be backlogged since overall EB demand is more than 140K when looked over past 7-8 years. Although in near future 3012 will result in signficant backlog reduction.
8) Most importantly 3012 will result in extremely well run DOS and USCIS since the schackles of per country are removed and tehy are only left to deal with categories. So 3012 will pave way for next round of reform where the overall cap needs to be increased sufficiently.
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Originally Posted by smuggymba
There is a provision on 15-10-10 till 2014 for 'transition' ..so EB2-ROW who are currently in the system will have better chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
This post falls squarely in the "Predictions" category as opposed to "Calculations :DQuote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
the odds of HR3012 getting passed before the Presidential elections at the end of 2012 are slim to none (and slim is losing!)
dude I noticed that bulletin, this is awesome. Let's hope somehow ppl slip this one up through. I have seen the judiciary hearings of other bills last time I was waiting for this one to come up but it got postponed, and man people do attack ideas with ferocity. I sincerely hope the politicians support this and understand our plea. If the House wants they can make some changes some cuts but still do something.
I firmly always believe in life that a chance is a chance, slim or fat, even a 0.01 probability is worth fighting for than just sitting. This is democracy and opportunity provided to us.
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Well said.Quote:
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I sincerely think the Murthy bulletin had a direct role in causing the Congressmen offices call lines to get jammed. It came out on Thursday so Friday must have seen unprecedented call volumes, hence the plea to stop calling. If this gets out of the committee, the next set of calls will be to the whole congress (less important i think since the GOP Reps vote in unison, but important nevertheless), and then the important step of calls to the senate.
Tomorrow and Thursday are the first steps. I'm on the road, so I won't be able to access the live recording like i did the last time. Keep giving the rest of us hourly updates, nishant2200 and others.
Just noticed manubhai's disappearance from this thread......
Kyon yaar, baaki sab ko bhadkake patli gali?
Pedro bhai... missing me?? I've been busy implanting clones of those committee members. Tomorrow and day after, they will behave exactly as programmed. Godspeed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro Gonzales
All I can tell you is that this explanation come’s from horse's mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by vizcard
Calendar quarter or fiscal quarter both means 3 months with difference being one relies on calendar year which starts in January and other is fiscal/financial year which for US government starts in October. Conundrum to the statement in the law is that it never stated "fiscal quarter" explicitly but rather "calendar quarter". Since for visa allocation in current system, fiscal year precedes eligible calendar year, DOS need to wait upto second fiscal quarter or first calendar quarter to start thinking about spillover.
The law is stated so vaguely that HR 3012 calls for removing quarterly spillover altogether. Although removing it does not affect FA in FIFO model but will affect FD on quarterly basis.
That is an interesting point that you noted there about "during remainder of quarter". To use this efficiently onus is on USCIS to provide correct load or demand on monthly basis for a quarter, which I doubt is done efficiently for categories that are current (mostly done on quarterly basis). Based on information that I received, my take is still that in any case quarterly spillover cannot be used until March-April realistically. Anomaly to this is yet to be seen.Quote:
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i do not see any video options for today's hearing - at the below link..
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/mark_10252011.html
is there a different location that its available? or the video option is not available at all?
Edit: Never mind..i found it at home page
http://judiciary.house.gov/index.html (Click on the picture of Video casts).
Thx,
SKPANDA
Will this bill be picked up for markup this week ?
Right now committee is discussing REINS act ( HR 10). There are 3 bills before it can reach to HR 3012. Will it happen this week ?
H.R. 10, the “Regulations From the Executive in Need of Scrutiny Act of 2011”;
H.R. 2870, the “Adam Walsh Reauthorization Act of 2011”;
H.R. 1254, the “Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011”; and,
H.R. 3012, the “Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act”
honestly dude, it's very frustrating. they keep punting ours to the end.
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Originally Posted by gcq
Even this bills are FIFO, but unfortunately immigration is not... mark my words obviously this bill may come up by next week Nov 3rd Thursday!.
www.immigration-law.com reports the following The OH law firm
10/26/2011: Out of Six Markup Bills, Two Bills Out of Way, in House Judiciary Full Committee Yesterday
The Full Committee has been in markups of the following six bills, out of which two of the first bills were taken care of yesterday by passing the bills and ordering to report the decision to the full House floor. H.R. 3012 is listed the last and it is hoped that the Full Committee takes up this bill on Thursday's continuing markups for the remaining four bills. H.R. 420, the “Veterans' Heritage Firearms Act of 2011”; H.R. 2870, the “Adam Walsh Reauthorization Act of 2011”; H.R. 1254, the “Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011”; and, H.R. 3012, the “Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act.” Please stay tuned for the 10/27/2011 markups of the Full Committee.
So let us all do our part and wait for the good news! Happy Diwali to all.
It also states:
10/25/2011: H.R. 3012 Bill Reaches Hottest Potato for the Employment-Based Employers and Immigrants
Congressional legislation monitoring website indicates that at this time the H.R. 3012 bill is the second highest hit site. As the House Judiciary Full Committee starts to take up debate of this bill beginning today, it is likely getting hotter and hotter hereon. Please stay tuned.
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Originally Posted by immitime
VERY importantly - Zoe Lofgren (Democrat) is now a co-sponsor... So the bill now has official bi-partisan support!!!!!!
Good news indeed. I didn't think there was much risk to this passing through the committee and getting to a vote on the floor of the House (although when was always an issue), but this portends well for the bill in senate. The fact that it has a Dem cosponsor may just get it attention from Reid that it wouldn't have otherwise.
Nevada desis, it's time to start making your plans to visit Senator Reid's office.
Vishnu ji - Now THAT is the Diwali gift I was truly expecting from Laxmi ji!!! This IS a pretty big deal indeed! Thanks for putting it up here!Quote:
Originally Posted by vishnu
Pedro - You are right... we need to prepare to get to the senators soon. Despite my lack of understanding of the details/politics/etc, having both Lofgren and Smith on this bill, makes it a pretty sure shot to pass the committee at least... whenever they get to it (hopefully soon). I have no clue what games will be played or will need to be played once this reaches the house for a vote. I hope this (presenting a bill to the committee) is not being done by the Reps. purely for making a statement that they understand the issues legal, qualified, employment based immigrants face. I hope they actually stand behind to get it passed in the house. With what I know, these sponsors themselves will need to garner support from other Reps/Senators and convince them of the need to get this into law. Having both sides asking for support for the same thing is indeed much more promising than it was a week ago.
Fingers crossed.
Source: Email from Immigration V****:
On Thursday morning (10/27/11), we are expecting the Judiciary committee in the House to take up our bill H.R. 3012 and vote on it in the first half of tomorrow's session. We expect the bill to pass with big majority in the committee and only 1 or 2 votes may go against this bill in Thursday's vote. This is big news for all of us and most of the credit goes to you for your support in terms of both actions items and contributions.
Hope this passes all the hurdles and becomes a law .....
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Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
Zoe is co-sponsor now. which is really a great news for passage of this bill.
now the next step would be the passage of this bill from Judiciary unanimously
jackbrown? have the proceedings started? i am not able to view the video at work. please do keep us posted, if you are able to view.
H.R.3012 is up for voting after further amendment discussion ................happening now in the judiciary committee .
Update: Bill is approved by the committee and moving to House floor for consideration
yes, Zoe has proposed an amendment too,,, "dual intent visa fro F1 and L1" plus "W" visa for spoucesQuote:
Originally Posted by vishnu
RECAPTURE amendment HAS BEEN PROPOSEDQuote:
Originally Posted by jackbrown_890