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Thanks for the clarification, Spec. If I understand it correctly, if M/P don't use their entire allocation, their share is distributed to ROW and then even if there is anything left it will come to most retrogressed country aka EB2 I. I am talking only about Fall across for EB2. Fall down visas are not gonna happen anymore given EB1 demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectator
Hi Spec,Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectator
do these number represent all pending cases, I mean does that number (5613 +21895) take into account the family members or just the main applicant.
if it doesnt, than the whole calculation falls apart yeah?
gcpursuit,Quote:
Originally Posted by gcpursuit
That's correct.
Unused visas by a Country are first made available to other Countries in the Category that have not reached the 7% limit. Once that demand is satisfied, spare visas are made available to the most retrogressed Country that has already reached the 7% limit. Once all demand has been reached in the Category, spare visas fall down to the next Category for use by Countries that have not yet reached the 7% limit. Only after that has been satisfied would visas be available to Countries already at the 7% limit in the lower Category.
As for Fall Down from EB2 to EB3, I agree with you. Demand in EB2 to become Current is likely in the 6 figures. I find it hard to even envisage a date when Fall Down might occur.
Pending Inventory of EB2 is very much appears a moving value.
Is EB2 PD March 2009 is straight EB2? which missed in getting GC in 2014?
Or ported to EB2 from EB3 and if so when? between 2010-2017?
It appears both groups EB2 and EB3 are moving in tandem.
Unless some rules are changed, the progress appears slow
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Originally Posted by gcy2k07
Yes - straight EB2.. PERM went into random audit and missed earlier opportunities.Quote:
Originally Posted by bvsamrat
We have a cutoff for EB1 :)
EB1I - 01JAN12
EB2I - 01JUL08
EB3I - 15MAY05
Oh no! All 'highly qualified' international managers (some waiting in Canada) have to wait longer....:dQuote:
Originally Posted by zenmaster
Happy for EB3-I - hopefully moves faster going forward
Sorry if this is a repeat - the 485 inventory as of April 2017 is released and the numbers seems to be skewed up
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...04-26-2017.pdf
EB2 BackLog(Numbers in Jan 2017 Inventory vs April 2017 Inventory)
2008 - 2267 to 7839
2009 - 12118 to 9092
2010 - 4748 to 1770
Yes, they have certainly messed up 2008 numbers for EB2I. There is no way 598 applicants in April and 886 applications in May pending, and still the date can progress to July 01 as indicated in the most recent visa bulletin.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhk2009
On the other note, the dates have moved as expected for both EB3I and EB2I!
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Originally Posted by vedu
Also how can the numbers go down for 2009 and 2010
Finally !! Glad the correction happened warlier this year. Hopefully there wont be misallocations this time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by zenmaster
As posted above, I don't understand how the cut off for EB1 matters. Quote from the bulletin:
"OVERSUBSCRIPTION OF THE CHINA AND INDIA EMPLOYMENT-BASED FIRST (E1) PREFERENCE CATEGORIES
Readers were advised in item D of the May Visa Bulletin number 5, that it would be necessary to impose a date for these two countries in the near future. The continued high level of demand for E1 numbers for USCIS adjustment of status applicants has required the establishment of a date for June. This has been done in an attempt to hold number use within the Worldwide E1 annual limit. The E1 date for these two countries will once again become CURRENT for October, the first month of fiscal year 2018."
The last line from the bulletin clearly states EB1 will be made current for India and China in the new fiscal year. Going by current inventory for EB1 (13,423) there will definitely be misallaocation with regards to spillovers towards EB2 and EB3, since the eventual goal of the immigration department is to make EB1 current which every year is trending up, and biting a huge chunk out of EB2 and EB3 spillovers. Again I might be wrong but reading from what's stated in the visa bulletin it sure looks like that.
Moreover it's gone beyond my imagination and mathematical skills to understand the April 2017 inventory. As pointed out by few posters above, pending inventory for 2008 has gone up by almost 5500 but has gone down for 2009 and 2010. I don't understand what kind of magical porting is going on there. Maybe the immigration god is planning to retrograde again if it's not a mistake. Again I might be wrong.
Exactly my thought. Hopefully this year EB3 India 2006 PDs will see some light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jagan01
They are seeing light already. RFE's for April 2006 PD's are also sighted.Quote:
Originally Posted by amulchandra
EB3I is supposed to have rapid movement.However, in last 2 years they didn't allocate that many spillovers to India only for EB3. Considerable spillovers are allocated to Philippines as well even though their queue is shorter than India. Also , I'm not sure about the correctness of the data they have reported . For example , Look at the EB2I inventory . Numbers reduced by 3K from 2010 and no change in 2009. I have outlined analysis in my blog :Quote:
Originally Posted by HarepathekaIntezar
http://chatur-chintamani.blogspot.com/
There should be more transparency about visa allocation which will help us to estimate our predictions correctly.
Where did you see April 2006 RFE? Can you post the link?
Are people having any issues with their employers on getting the Supplement J's filled out.
I'm no where near current but had a colleague in my company (big american company) who got an RFE and barely got it signed today. He was on EAD from a diff company and didn't file AC21 when he joined this big company. (Same situation as mine, I didn't file AC21 as well)
Fragomen told him you're not on our records and we can fill out Supplement J. HR said talk to Fragomen, Fragomen said talk to HR. Finally he got it done once Fragomen said they will decide on the occupation code based on their conversations with the manager and HR. I expect to be in the same boat when I'm current. These lawyers are a curse on people in the immigration line. Sorry had to rant.
Are you working for this big american company as a full time or contractor.Quote:
Originally Posted by smuggymba
If you are working as a full time, how come the company has a problem in issuing Supplement J.
Did your responsibilities change from the one on labor petition?
Fragomen is a POS. Fragomen needs to review your Original LCA filing and see what occupation it was filed for and advice HR, so HR can give the same in the Supplement J. I was lucky to have got my GC before this Sup J came into effect, otherwise, I would also be in the same boat, because Fragomen is also the Attorney for my BIG company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohan34689
Pending Inventory has always been fudged. No point in analysing fudged data.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abhinav3799
Full time. This supp J is so new that HR has no clue. They're thinking they're "sponsoring" a new visa/employee. As soon as "sponsor" word comes into picture everyone pulls back and says we don't sponsor anyone. EVL's were never an issues, HR used to give that on the same day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohan34689
Looks like there are only 13388 perms approved for EB India in 2008 as per PERM_DATA. Can you please cross check. All other years matches with my calculations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectator
Thank you;
Agree. We had to fire them.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarepathekaIntezar
Sorry posting off-topic, I recently moved and am trying to change address online using online AR-11 form: https://egov.uscis.gov/coa/displayCOAForm.do
When I fill out all information, at the end the form does not submit and throws an error stating not the correct receipt number for the type of form (I485). I have double and triple checked the receipt number, tried different web browsers, office and home, but the problem prevails. Has anyone else encountered this recently?
I called USCIS and after informing me with the current status (we received response to RFE ....in 2014...), they told me that I will have to fill out the form and mail it in:
https://www.uscis.gov/addresschange
Looking through their webpage above, I cannot determine which address to mail it to, the webpage says I-485 but includes as an abused spouse, and requires to be mailed to St. Albans, VT. The actual AR-11 PDF form requires it to be mailed to Harrisonburg, VA.
I believe I should mail it to Harrisonburg, VA being a EB2 I-485. Is my understanding correct? If someone can advise, I will appreciate it.
Download the AR-11 form and open it. On the second page, there is a clearly marked box telling you to mail it to Harrisonburg, VA.Quote:
Originally Posted by AC_1980
Don't forget to send via certified mail with a physical signature return confirmation. Save that confirmation card that is returned.
Has anyone filed the I-485 RFE response by themselves for dependents? Also can anyone suggest a good lawyer for filing the RFE response? I changed many jobs after 180 days of filing I-485, never filed AC-21 as per old lawyer's suggestion. Last week I suddenly got the RFE much sooner than expected(March 15, 2006 Eb3-I). Based on my previous experience I do not wish to use the same lawyer. In my current company everyone is either GC holder or citizen. The company does not have any immigration lawyer. I am looking for lawyer suggestions.
Thanks,
you can hire any reputed lawyer but they will ask you HR to fill out the supplement J. Are there any changes in job duties or is this a straightforward case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhu7
Main question - is your current company supportive or not. That's the main thing. Filling out form/lawyer are things you don't need to worry about.
I'm worried about the day I get the supplement J RFE :( (PD March 2010 EB2) because my company is generally not supportive and just goes by what the stupid ppl in Fragomen tell them.
Fortunately my company is supportive and willing to fill out supp. J form. My primary skill is java and now I am working in SalesForce where Java is also one of the requirements. I have made it a point to keep my job duties similar for all these years :( . The case is kind of straight forward, except for the fact I have too many employers due to the nature of consulting jobs (I had to go on preferred vendor's W-2), and I got G-325 in RFE which asks for last 5 years employment history. I have 4-6 weeks gap twice when I was looking for projects. I am kind of worried about that part. The officer who looks at G325 will not be accustomed to see all 5 lines filled with different employers is my worry :( I know technically we can work for any employer if job is same or similar but after waiting for 12+ years I am totally anxious to say the least. If at all officer raises concerns about this, I need a competent lawyer who can handle this.Quote:
Originally Posted by smuggymba
get any reputable attorney - murthy, shusterman, Pallavi Ahluwalia etc. or someone from your city if you want local.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhu7
Get any lawyer other then Rahul Reddy who is a scumbag who supported the lobby and killed EAD after I-140 approval. He's the reason people in EB2/3 don't have EAD even after I-140 approval.
On a sidenote, it's good to see people getting RFE in 2006 for EB3.
yep, that's pretty much what I did, thanks for confirming. I also followed up with a phone call to USCIS customer care (per instructions on their website) and went through address change on pending I485 application. just wanted to add the extra step for benefit to future readers. thanks again!
If your case is "simple" and there are no issues that you are aware of and your job is very similar to the old one, just use any local lawyer. Always speak to the lawyer over the phone before you sign on. Tell him/her your situation and ask how many EB green cards he/she has handled during the last two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhu7
I am with Ron Gotcher in California, and I am very happy with him. I spoke with him many times and he is very patient and helpful. Good luck!
I just saw this on Murthy, so I thought I would share. https://www.murthy.com/2017/05/19/ju...ons-eb3-india/
Some good news for EB3-I at last.Quote:
June 2017 Visa Bulletin Check-in: Predictions for EB3 India
19 May 2017
Last night, Charles Oppenheim, Chief of the Visa Control and Reporting Division for the U.S. Department of State (DOS), was the featured speaker at the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) D.C. Chapter meeting. During his talk, he provided some updated predictions regarding the employment-based, third preference (EB3) category for people born in India.
EB3 India: Some Advancement Expected in Near Future
Between October 2016, which was the first month of the current fiscal year, and May 2017, the cutoff date in the final action (FA) chart for EB3 India moved forward a total of a measly 24 days. So, the advancement in the June 2017 Visa Bulletin of about seven weeks, to a new cutoff date of May 15, 2005, was rapid movement, by comparison.
Mr. Oppenheim expects this movement to accelerate a bit in the near future. For the July 2017 Visa Bulletin, he hopes to advance EB3 India to a new cutoff date of October 15, 2005. Moreover, if all goes according to plan, he believes he will be able to advance the cutoff date to March 2006 by the end of the fiscal year.
These are Predictions – Not Guarantees
It is important to note that these are Mr. Oppenheim’s current predictions. Circumstances could change that would prevent even this relatively modest advancement from occurring. And, of course, even if this forward progress occurs, it still will leave the vast majority of beneficiaries under the EB3 India banner with a long, long wait ahead of them.
Copyright © 2016, MURTHY LAW FIRM. All Rights Reserved
Great news indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectator
FY2018 should be even more exciting for EB3-I.
I am a little skeptical of EB3I optimism. As Spec's recent PERM data analysis showed, ROW demand proportion is moving dramatically towards EB3 from EB2 now that EB3ROW is effectively current. If the movement persists, then coupled with strong EB3P demand, there may not be much left for EB3I movement.
The next recession can't come soon enough. We need a repeat of 2008-09 when EB-ROW demand collapses and EB2I and EB3I get a chance to catch up.
Obviously nothing is going to happen legislatively. The future is indeed grim.
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Originally Posted by suninphx
For FY2018 I am still optimistic. Beyond that let's see how it plays out.Quote:
Originally Posted by imdeng
Based on this when do you guys think July 2006 might be current? Eagerly waiting.....
Amul - for both our sake, i hope June-Jul 2006 clears by 2018..fingers crossed. If it indeed reaches early 2006 by this fiscal, 2018 may be our lucky year. Positive sign is CO has at least spoken about EB3I, the long forgotten category. Just hope he doesnt over allocate to his favored categories.Quote:
Originally Posted by amulchandra
I wish the same. If what CO said happens , our PDs will become current in first or second quarter of 2018. Fingers crossed.
Once we enter new FY 2018, I see the dates moving 2 weeks a month (as there are ~500 applications a month).Quote:
Originally Posted by amulchandra
That should cover you in the Q2 or Q3 of 2018.
You will be current in Dec 2017 or Jan 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by amulchandra