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11-09-2020, 02:03 PM
gcconnect

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Originally Posted by rabp77

The fedex tracking signature confirmation is not the same as a receipt notice from USCIS. after its delivered by FEdex (or other carriers), USCIS does some checks to ensure that your case is a valid case to be filed (such as checking that the underlying -i140 is current for filing) and accepted, and all basic application forms are correctly filed, and required fees have been included. If all these basic checks pass, then USCIS will send you a receipt notice (i797c), which will have the case tracking number which you can use online to track the status of your application. Normally the receipt notice is sent 2-3 weeks after the fedex delivery. However, these may not be normal times, so my guess is it could take slighly longer.

Thank you. so the I797c received means the file is accepted and time for the subsequent steps depends on the situation.
11-09-2020, 02:15 PM
rabp77

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Originally Posted by gcconnect

Thank you. so the I797c received means the file is accepted and time for the subsequent steps depends on the situation.

yes...once you get the receipt notice, you have a valid adjustment of status application for which additional processing will happen. The receipt notice will also provide a case number, which can be tracked online. Good Luck !!!
11-09-2020, 03:04 PM
inspired_p

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Originally Posted by nankrish

I filed my AOS and USCIS received it on Oct 12th. I got the receipt notices today from the Lawyer.

Notice Date in the receipt notices: Nov 3rd

For me the receipt notices were received last week for USCIS received on 22nd October, the notice date is 23rd October.
The notice date is only important for the 180 days calculation after which EAD/AP holder can change jobs without filing a new I-140.
Other than that, I don't think it really matters. For the I-485 to be processed and greencard to be priority date has to be current as FAD.
11-09-2020, 03:33 PM
nankrish

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Originally Posted by inspired_p

For me the receipt notices were received last week for USCIS received on 22nd October, the notice date is 23rd October.
The notice date is only important for the 180 days calculation after which EAD/AP holder can change jobs without filing a new I-140.
Other than that, I don't think it really matters. For the I-485 to be processed and greencard to be priority date has to be current as FAD.

Is 180 days based on notice date? I thought it is based on Received Date. In my notice, USCIS Received Date is Oct 12th but the Notice Date is Nov 3rd.
11-09-2020, 03:42 PM
Turbulent_Dragonfly

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Originally Posted by nankrish

Is 180 days based on notice date? I thought it is based on Received Date. In my notice, USCIS Received Date is Oct 12th but the Notice Date is Nov 3rd.

Notice date is when they mailed the notice. The Received Date is what is relevant for the 180 day countdown.
11-09-2020, 03:52 PM
inspired_p

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Originally Posted by Turbulent_Dragonfly

Notice date is when they mailed the notice. The Received Date is what is relevant for the 180 day countdown.

Cool ! Thank you for the clarification. Then Notice date does not matter at all, or does it?
11-09-2020, 04:04 PM
ak7419

Even though I was current under final action date, USCIS approved my EAD last week. They have not initiated an RFE for medicals/485j :(
11-09-2020, 04:04 PM
Turbulent_Dragonfly

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Originally Posted by inspired_p

Cool ! Thank you for the clarification. Then Notice date does not matter at all, or does it?

Other than reflecting the inefficiency of USCIS processing, probably not :)
11-09-2020, 04:07 PM
amarrecherla

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Originally Posted by inspired_p

For me the receipt notices were received last week for USCIS received on 22nd October, the notice date is 23rd October.
The notice date is only important for the 180 days calculation after which EAD/AP holder can change jobs without filing a new I-140.
Other than that, I don't think it really matters. For the I-485 to be processed and greencard to be priority date has to be current as FAD.

I thought 485 is processed and keep it ready for a GC number to be available before FAD is current. Is that not the case?
11-10-2020, 08:30 AM
srisri

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Originally Posted by ak7419

Even though I was current under final action date, USCIS approved my EAD last week. They have not initiated an RFE for medicals/485j :(

Looks like you are not current yet, the rule is any PD prior to the final action date in VB is current. You are on the border and should be current in next bulletin. All the best.
11-10-2020, 08:39 AM
idliman

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Originally Posted by ak7419

Even though I was current under final action date, USCIS approved my EAD last week. They have not initiated an RFE for medicals/485j :(

Like srisri explained above, you are not current. Your PD should be one day before the published visa bulletin date. By the time USCIS looks at your I-485, your PD will be current.

EAD/AP and I-485 approvals are separate processes. For I-485, USCIS has to clear your fingerprinting and background check. The internal process involves multiple checks before GC is approved. Hence, GC approval takes more time. EAD/AP approval is straight-forward as they need to only make sure that your I-485 was accepted and is pending.
11-10-2020, 08:41 AM
fishelusa

It seems like till oct 22nd received receipts. Mine sent on oct 26th and delivered on 27th. Awaiting for receipt notices.
11-10-2020, 10:04 AM
ak7419

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Originally Posted by idliman

Like srisri explained above, you are not current. Your PD should be one day before the published visa bulletin date. By the time USCIS looks at your I-485, your PD will be current.

EAD/AP and I-485 approvals are separate processes. For I-485, USCIS has to clear your fingerprinting and background check. The internal process involves multiple checks before GC is approved. Hence, GC approval takes more time. EAD/AP approval is straight-forward as they need to only make sure that your I-485 was accepted and is pending.

Sorry, I had wrong PD in my profile and I have fixed it now. My EB2I PD is Sep 17, 2009. Just curious - shouldn't at least RFE be triggered while approving my EAD? Do you mean to say that the department that approves EAD works off of different system than 485?
11-10-2020, 10:19 AM
longwaitgigu

Question on predictions for eb3 and eb2 dates by end of this FY
With biden elected, CP starting in February, how much horizontal spillover india can have as most backlogged country. What can we expect based on past CP usage by phillipines and south korea?
Is there any past CP numbers to correlate the trend.
I do read this forum and have read predictions by zenzone I guess and others saying eb2 and eb3 India meeting somewhere in 2011, but that was before election.
11-10-2020, 10:33 AM
android09

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Originally Posted by fishelusa

It seems like till oct 22nd received receipts. Mine sent on oct 26th and delivered on 27th. Awaiting for receipt notices.

No, that is not a true statement. Mine was submitted on Oct 20th(Arizona). I have not received any receipts yet. My friend submitted his package on the 16th(Texas) and he hasnt received anything yet either.
11-10-2020, 10:45 AM
vsivarama

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Originally Posted by fishelusa

It seems like till oct 22nd received receipts. Mine sent on oct 26th and delivered on 27th. Awaiting for receipt notices.

That is not a True statement. It will take a good 4 weeks to get receipts for the majority of the applicants. AZ service center may be a week or two ahead in providing receipts when compared to Texas which is heavily backlogged (all downgrade petitions go to texas).
11-10-2020, 11:30 AM
EB2IndSep09

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Originally Posted by Moveon

The question of getting Medicals done without the RFEs keeps coming up so often. Maybe we need to bookmark this page and just paste the link for nay further questions.
Again , please do not send the medicals or any paper work out of turn . Plz send them only when you get an RFE (and only send what is requested for ) as sending them w/o an RFE will mostly lead to delays in processing and you will waste your money as medicals as mentioned above are only valid for 60 days .
To save time get your immunizations updated , so the only thing remaining will be the TB test that can be done once you get your RFE. Also get your Flu shots as they are mandatory when you file in the winter months .

The assumption of medicals only valid for 60 days is not correct. I was having similar assumption and was corrected by my attorney during the filing of AOS last month.
"The medicals don’t need to be submitted within 60 days after completion. So long as the medicals are completed no more than 60 days before the I-485 is filed, they remain valid for 2 years. Once I-485 is filed, one can complete the medicals and they remain valid for submission for next 2 years. The valid Medicals could be used for responding to RFE when asked or can be taken along with other paperwork for an interview. Medicals should not be sent "
Hope this helps answering the lingering question.

I have scheduled my medicals for Jan 21 and below immunizations were given as required by the medical office.
Influenza (Flu) / Tdap / MMR / Varicella.
11-10-2020, 11:38 AM
rocketfast

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Originally Posted by vsivarama

That is not a True statement. It will take a good 4 weeks to get receipts for the majority of the applicants. AZ service center may be a week or two ahead in providing receipts when compared to Texas which is heavily backlogged (all downgrade petitions go to texas).

I did notice that my petition was sent to Arizona (non-downgrade case) and was a little surprised. In trackitt's tracker, I generally only see Texas or Nebraska or NBC. Does anyone know when did Arizona as a service center come into the picture? Is this a new thing?
11-10-2020, 11:45 AM
longwaitgigu

Which state u live in, we live in Florida
I dont know which service center is filed my case
It's non downgrade
I will ask lawyer today
11-10-2020, 11:51 AM
rocketfast

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Originally Posted by longwaitgigu

Which state u live in, we live in Florida
I dont know which service center is filed my case
It's non downgrade
I will ask lawyer today

You can find it here. I live in California
https://www.uscis.gov/i-485-addresses
11-10-2020, 12:20 PM
EB2IndSep09

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Originally Posted by rocketfast

I did notice that my petition was sent to Arizona (non-downgrade case) and was a little surprised. In trackitt's tracker, I generally only see Texas or Nebraska or NBC. Does anyone know when did Arizona as a service center come into the picture? Is this a new thing?

https://www.uscis.gov/i-485-addresses
It is based on the state one resides. All EB based on I140 are filed either in TX or AZ. I am not sure if the workload transfer applies for 485.
11-10-2020, 01:19 PM
Moveon

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Originally Posted by EB2IndSep09

The assumption of medicals only valid for 60 days is not correct. I was having similar assumption and was corrected by my attorney during the filing of AOS last month.
"The medicals don’t need to be submitted within 60 days after completion. So long as the medicals are completed no more than 60 days before the I-485 is filed, they remain valid for 2 years. Once I-485 is filed, one can complete the medicals and they remain valid for submission for next 2 years. The valid Medicals could be used for responding to RFE when asked or can be taken along with other paperwork for an interview. Medicals should not be sent "
Hope this helps answering the lingering question.

I have scheduled my medicals for Jan 21 and below immunizations were given as required by the medical office.
Influenza (Flu) / Tdap / MMR / Varicella.

Sorry for not being clear on this . When I meant "Valid for 60 days" it was in the context of people getting their medicals done before an RFE is requested . Assume that you complete the Medicals (Doctor signs on it) on Nov 10th and the RFE is issued on Jan 12th , you cannot use the Medicals as its more than 60 days since the RFE was issued . Some of the folks who filed for EAD in 2012 were getting their medicals done in anticipation on an RFE. My advice has been to get all immunizations plus flu shot done and get the final TB test and sign off after the RFE is issued. You save both time and lot of money .

Once you submit the medicals with the RFE, its valid for two years since the date of Doctor's signature .
11-10-2020, 01:47 PM
raradhya

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Originally Posted by EB2IndSep09

The assumption of medicals only valid for 60 days is not correct. I was having similar assumption and was corrected by my attorney during the filing of AOS last month.
"The medicals don’t need to be submitted within 60 days after completion. So long as the medicals are completed no more than 60 days before the I-485 is filed, they remain valid for 2 years. Once I-485 is filed, one can complete the medicals and they remain valid for submission for next 2 years. The valid Medicals could be used for responding to RFE when asked or can be taken along with other paperwork for an interview. Medicals should not be sent "
Hope this helps answering the lingering question.

I have scheduled my medicals for Jan 21 and below immunizations were given as required by the medical office.
Influenza (Flu) / Tdap / MMR / Varicella.

You are right the surgeon signature has to be with in 60 days before or after the I-485 submission date (~120 days) to be valid for 2 years.

if one has past immunisation records then the Surgeon will use them to enter in the I-693 application but will still issue a blood and Urine test to validate and attach the results in the package.
one other test is the TB test. some surgeons do it via blood test and some do it via the skin test.
11-10-2020, 03:42 PM
h1bh1bh1b

Skin based tb test is not valid anymore
11-10-2020, 04:41 PM
Moveon

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Originally Posted by h1bh1bh1b

Skin based tb test is not valid anymore

That is true . When I got the RFE in 2018 , that is what my doctor told me too. Its a blood test now .
11-10-2020, 04:53 PM
Viking

My AOS application was received by the TX lockbox on 24th October. What happens if I don't get a receipt notice by 30th Nov with the following scenario. USCIS does not accept filing date and my application is rejected due to any reason. Do I lose the opportunity to refile or is there any recourse?
11-10-2020, 05:12 PM
GCkaLADDU

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Originally Posted by Viking

My AOS application was received by the TX lockbox on 24th October. What happens if I don't get a receipt notice by 30th Nov with the following scenario. USCIS does not accept filing date and my application is rejected due to any reason. Do I lose the opportunity to refile or is there any recourse?

This is the scenario which is giving me some jitters as well. I guess its like missing the EAD boat :(
11-10-2020, 05:49 PM
ak7419

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Originally Posted by h1bh1bh1b

Skin based tb test is not valid anymore

Can you please give me a link to USCIS page that says skin based test is no longer acceptable?
11-10-2020, 06:04 PM
Moveon

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Originally Posted by ak7419

Can you please give me a link to USCIS page that says skin based test is no longer acceptable?

https://www.murthy.com/2018/11/01/ch...rd-applicants/
https://www.quantiferon.com/us/produ...sources/uscis/
https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugee...tructions.html
11-10-2020, 06:08 PM
ak7419

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Originally Posted by Moveon

https://www.murthy.com/2018/11/01/ch...rd-applicants/
https://www.quantiferon.com/us/produ...sources/uscis/
https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugee...tructions.html

Thank you! This is helpful especially for folks who never had their medicals done!
11-10-2020, 06:35 PM
EB2IndSep09

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Originally Posted by ak7419

Thank you! This is helpful especially for folks who never had their medicals done!

More info on the medicals...
I-693 Instructions provides the cdc link which narrates how each test should be performed.
http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeeh...-surgeons.html
and lastly the current I-693 form is valid until 07/31/2022, so even if one does the medicals now and wait for RFE, it is VERY IMPORTANT to make sure the forms used are not expired before submitting to USCIS (RFE or Interview).
11-10-2020, 07:43 PM
Turbulent_Dragonfly

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Originally Posted by Viking

My AOS application was received by the TX lockbox on 24th October. What happens if I don't get a receipt notice by 30th Nov with the following scenario. USCIS does not accept filing date and my application is rejected due to any reason. Do I lose the opportunity to refile or is there any recourse?

Why would you be worried if your application has already been received? Of course, if it's outright rejected for some reason, there will be an issue but otherwise you will be fine.

Anyways, just for some perspective, my packet reached on Oct 9th and I neither have a receipt number nor checks cashed yet. So it's taking a good bit of time for them to issue receipts. Expect about 4-6 weeks before you hear back from them.
11-10-2020, 08:44 PM
rabp77

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Originally Posted by GCkaLADDU

This is the scenario which is giving me some jitters as well. I guess its like missing the EAD boat :(

as long as USCIS has received the application by the end of the month, you do not need to worry. I was in the same situation 2 years ago (they stopped accepting the filing date from Feb-01-2019), and they had received my application in the last week of Jan. The application gets processed as long as they have received in during the month when they were supposed to receive it.
11-10-2020, 09:10 PM
1312011_eb2I

Hi Q ,
I have a question, some how my legal team made a mistake on my residence history dates in my I-485 , which has already been submitted. I reached out to them asking if there is way to correct. They are saying they will respond if USCIS sends a RFE. Do you think there is an issue or a way to correct beforehand.
11-11-2020, 02:38 AM
Moveon

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Originally Posted by 1312011_eb2I

Hi Q ,
I have a question, some how my legal team made a mistake on my residence history dates in my I-485 , which has already been submitted. I reached out to them asking if there is way to correct. They are saying they will respond if USCIS sends a RFE. Do you think there is an issue or a way to correct beforehand.

I would wait for an RFE which I doubt will ever come for such an issue unless the dates are terribly misplaced . I guess it should be OK as long as the dates are within the time you have spent in the US. If say you came in 2012 and they claim that you were staying in a US addr since 2011 then that might be a red flag. But again they would issue an RFE and give you a chance to correct it . I will not lose sleep over it .
11-11-2020, 08:57 AM
qesehmk

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Originally Posted by 1312011_eb2I

Hi Q ,
I have a question, some how my legal team made a mistake on my residence history dates in my I-485 , which has already been submitted. I reached out to them asking if there is way to correct. They are saying they will respond if USCIS sends a RFE. Do you think there is an issue or a way to correct beforehand.

Your lawyers are right on the money. Don't bother.
11-11-2020, 08:58 AM
1312011_eb2I

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

Your lawyers are right on the money. Don't bother.

Thank you!!
11-11-2020, 09:00 AM
1312011_eb2I

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Originally Posted by Moveon

I would wait for an RFE which I doubt will ever come for such an issue unless the dates are terribly misplaced . I guess it should be OK as long as the dates are within the time you have spent in the US. If say you came in 2012 and they claim that you were staying in a US addr since 2011 then that might be a red flag. But again they would issue an RFE and give you a chance to correct it . I will not lose sleep over it .

Thank you! Dates were overlapped between two apartments with in Same state and counties (in USA only). It was purely a honest mistake by legal team.
11-11-2020, 10:49 AM
GCkaLADDU

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Originally Posted by rabp77

as long as USCIS has received the application by the end of the month, you do not need to worry. I was in the same situation 2 years ago (they stopped accepting the filing date from Feb-01-2019), and they had received my application in the last week of Jan. The application gets processed as long as they have received in during the month when they were supposed to receive it.

Apologies for not being clear enough.

What i meant was a scenario wherein my application is received on time but later on its returned/rejected due to something critical missing (lets say signatures, incorrect cheque etc). I get to know of this after it has passed the filing date cutoff (for ex: Nov 30th) when i am no longer eligible to apply it again (assuming Dec VB doesn't accept filing date or Filing Date moves back).
11-11-2020, 10:55 AM
qesehmk

Guys ...no guarantees ... but I just want to say - "relax". The dates won't retrogress immediately. You all are bright capable people. Everything will be alright. Just keep a positive attitude.

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