Sweet, now my fear is kinda allayed!
Sweet, now my fear is kinda allayed!
If Irish PrimeMinister can come and talk to senators for their people. Why can't Manmohan Singh come and do the same for Indians. O' India almost never supports anything America does. India abstained in Libya vote, wants to do business with Iran. I don't think India has any leverage with Americans.
Latest on E3:
http://newrytimes.com/2012/02/20/us-...-e3-visa-bill/
You are right. The bill does not show anything attached to it but this bill itself has not been blocked by Grassley. Grassley has still his hold on HR 3012 and they are trying to attach this bill with it and that is why they are making it filibuster proof. But I agree with kd2008 that if this bill passes the Senate, we don't know what will happen to it in the House because House has again a Republican Majority and I don't know whether they would agree with this Irish provision or not. Hopefully, we will see some action next week on the bill.
More confusion-A lot of these Irish media stories seem to conflict each other
http://www.workpermit.com/news/2012-...e-to-irish.htm
Interesting article
Hopefully Honest but Hopelessly wrong! might be one of the reason for treating Legal immigration as political football to play as they wish.
http://www.theleafchronicle.com/arti...TS25/302210030
An article that dares to tell the uncomfortable truth. Any surprise that an Irish E-3 could get a support of 50+ senators in no time whereas a minor tweak to high skilled immigrant bill is still struggling to clear senate ?Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Exactly, and the leader of this mental cancer is grassuncle!Quote:
Originally Posted by gcq
An update to the ongoing saga
http://irishecho.com/?p=69944
Immigration chief Mr.Mayorkas seeks to reassure Silicon Valley
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ion/53211162/1
http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-fre...n-communities/Quote:
At any rate, this entire discussion may be moot. Politico reports that Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) is opposing Brown’s pet bill out of concern that it could “hurt high-skilled American jobs.” And this is an election year. No one will seriously attempt, much less pass, anything before November.
Intersting to read, according to this and the Irish agenda is really big threat for H R 3012 and It may not pass before November election
Hmmm..
I think it will die slowly .. no news from any source these days :confused:
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Originally Posted by vickywac
Hope for good news this week..
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Key...140477933.html
To Lalaji and Immitime
Thanks for keeping an eagle eye on the news and bringing us updates. Irish Central is very positive always about the chances of this Bill but does not clearly say if it is mentioning the IRE Bill of Sen Brown or S.1983 of Sen Schumer. If the aim is unanimous consent then hopefully no damaging amendments are introduced to achieve this.
BTW, we tend to overlook the family-based component of this Bill.I saw this news item on my news alert
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-fi...etitions-peril
As usual-we have to wait and see.As they say there is always next week!
As per Oh law firm Irish E3 may be added to Israeli E2 by house as an amendment..?
02/26/2012: Irish Community Takes Next Week as Key Week to Pass H.R. 3012 + Irish E-3 Visa Legislation in Unainimous Consent
As this reporter predicted earlier, the forthcoming important Irish St. Patrick's Day celebration in this country can give a momentum for these legislative bills. The Irish media agrees with this reporter's assessment by reporting today that this week (02/27/2012-03/02/2012) will be a key week for the fate of these bills. They hope that they see a break through in negotiation with Sen. Grassley or obtain at least 60 Senators to pass the bills swiftly within this week. From such hope, apparently Irish community is pumping up lobby activities to get support from the members of the House such that when the bill(as) as amended goes back to the House, the bills are not seriously challenged because of the Irish E-3 amendment. They also recognize, just as this reporter predicted, that the bills as amended may face a different floor in the House, different for the floor where the stand-alone H.R. 3012 was swiftly passed with 365 absolute majority with only 15 nays. In this regard, the passage of these bills, as amended, in the Senate will be considered a success but not a complete success. Supporters of these bills may have to go through another cycle of painful struggle, this time in the House. What happens if Israeli E-2 bill (investment nonimmigrant visa) which is pending in the House attempts to be attached to this bill in the form of amendment? Who knows!
Seems senate is trying to tackle the small business growth related bill(s) next. I'd think this helps H.R.3012 indirectly.
http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/02/...ess-jobs-bill/
Why has this site gone dead.... has everyone given up?
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/21...s-constructiveQuote:
Originally Posted by mniwas
This is the way HR3012 is going to get to Senate floor. We have to be patient till the more important things are finished up in Senate.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...sage-next-week
FYI..HR 3012 is not in the House Jobs Bill...
Hope I am not missing anything...
HR 3012 has already passed the house and it is waiting for the senate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vickywac
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/Quote:
Originally Posted by vickywac
Follow the link "Plan for America’s Job Creators". You will see HR3012. I agree that Eric Cantor's initial version of Jobs bill released today has only 6 instead of the 27 bills. I think it is political move to front only 6 important bills as it may invite severe scrutiny from Democrats. Let's hope that other bills like HR3012 also get added in the amendment process.
Are the Democrats against the bill?. Whe would these bills come to vote?. Just speculating, Do the Bill come to vote before election?. Guru's What is your take?Quote:
Originally Posted by idiotic
We don't know whether republicans and democrats are serious about this bill. If they are, they would definitely bring it before the elections. If it is a political game, they will use it to blame the other side.Quote:
Originally Posted by vickywac
As jobs are big determining factor for the upcoming elections, they will probably take it up in one form or another.
Let us hope for the best !
Gcq,Quote:
Originally Posted by gcq
Thank you!. No news about the Irish bill as the Irish media predicted as last week was the key!. Looks like it's tough sell for E3.
Source: http://democrats.senate.gov/2012/03/...-march-5-2012/
The Senate will convene at 2:00pm on Monday, March 5. Following any Leader remarks, the Senate will proceed to a period of morning business with senators permitted to speak therein for up to 10 minutes each. There will be no roll call votes on Monday, March 5.
On Friday, Senator Reid filed cloture on the Reid amendment #1761 and S.1813, Surface Transportation bill. At 12:00 noon on Tuesday, March 6, the Senate will proceed to vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the Reid amendment #1761.
what is promising here ? I dont see any reference to 3012.. am i missing some thing
Quote:
Originally Posted by mniwas
mniwas frequently posts Senate schedule of the day. No you are not missing anything. HR 3012 is not going to show up magically one day in the Senate Schedule. Some people believe otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by longgcque
Speculation cannot reach anywhere, Senate have its own procedures to voting and there are lot of political manouvering. There are lot of families waiting for this bill. you cannot just say some statments without any link or proof. Please do not discourage people who are contacting their senators on daily basis. If you want to say something which is going to happen, Please provide authentic link.Quote:
Originally Posted by kd2008
I am not saying it is not going to pass. If an agreement is reached it will be known everywhere before the vote is scheduled. I have never discouraged anyone from doing anything. Everybody should do what they can to pass it.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Harry Reid had said that next bill (after surface transport and postal) is "Obama Jobs bill". Senate calendar gives you some insight on the status and schedule for current (surface transport) bill... Once this is thru... Harry can bring up the "Obama Jobs bill" which includes HR3012. That is the reason I had posted Senate schedule.Quote:
Originally Posted by kd2008
Hope it helps.
Apologies if I missed it, but how do we know HR3012 will come up in the Senate when the Jobs bill is taken up?Quote:
Originally Posted by mniwas
I read the article. It mentions that the JOBS bill has 6 bills in it. Do we know what those bills are if any mention of H.R. 3012 is in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by vickywac
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...t-in-the-houseQuote:
Originally Posted by psychedelicNerd
And (pdf):
http://thehill.com/images/stories/bl...012/hr3606.pdf
No, it does not mention HR 3012. Please let me know if this is not correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychedelicNerd
Yea.....H.R. 3012 is not in the bills mentioned in the JOBS Act. Dunno if it would get added, but so far i dont see any mention of H.R. 3012 in the JOBS Act.
To PsychedelicNerd
There is room for hope yet.Even though the House Version does not contain the 3012 provisions,according to the article below Sen Reid wants to pass a Senate version of small business bills and reconcile in conference. I agree with other forum members that this most likely is not going to contain any immigration provisions as the Bill is designed mainly to increase access to capital for small businesses. In any case he has not provided any timeline for this legislation and it appears like after the transportation Bill he plans to confirm 12 judges and work on postal or cyber-security legislation.The transportation Bill should extend well into next week as there are no Roll Call votes tomorrow or Monday. For people who are keeping track-we are now past 100 days since passage of 3012 in the House and the limbo is still continuing!
http://www.rollcall.com/news/senate_...ml?pos=htmbtxt
House passed jobs act. No HR3012 in it.
From the link below, see the comment from HArry Reid..
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday he would introduce similar legislation next week and “move as quickly as we can” to pass it, but said a highway bill current under consideration in the Senate would create more jobs faster than the House proposal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...zexR_blog.html
To idiotic
Thanks for the link.In any case it is unlikely that immigration provisions are going to be included in the business startup Bill but one can still hope!