I do remember seeing ads regarding American Workers Protection in CNN especially from a Union in California within the last year, I do not know whether it is FAIR or someother organisation. And this is only 1 % of non-business Americans, no need to be alarmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by natvyas
As far as i have known FAIR has always been against immigration and there are few other organizations against immigration...they don't want any immigrants in this country..,,I don't think FAIR opposes this particular bill since it does not increase any visa number....they are not much concerned about 3012...i am sure if they put recapture or something like that as n amendment,, FAIR will actively oppose this bill,,Quote:
Originally Posted by natvyas
New action item:
so surprisingly anyone can write to Harry Reid. I thought usually senators/house reps contact forms allow on their constituents to send them emails. But good for us it seems like Reid's contact page allows anyone to send an email. So I just sent an email to Harry Reid asking him to either introduce a motion to proceed with the bill or motion to file a cloture to break filibuster. I see bunch of petitions are doing really well,, including ** s. So once you are done with signing a petition, i would request people to write to Harry Reid and request him to introduce Motion to proceed or motion to file cloture,,,,here is the contact page of Harry Reid. you never know, if Harry Reid gets lots of emails he may take matter into his own hands and try to solve it and he has got powers right now being majority leader.
http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm
BTW the reason behind writing Harry Reid. He is a majority leader in the senate and being a majority leader and he supports immigration and by being majority leader he can ignore the hold and proceed with the bill if he feels comfortable that he will get more thn 60 votes
also, i did not create any template: the reason behind that is, lot of people are signing petitions so their office is getting loads of robo- emails with the same format...so for a change if everyone writes in their own words, it would be nice. it gives a little personal touch..
thank you,
All Kwho posts moved to junk folder in case there is continued interest in that topic! Lets keep this thread clean.
Hi all, first post here...!Quote:
Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
Apparently this is only for Nevadans, even though the drop-down box for the state lists all states. You are not going to get any response from the Senator unless you are from Nevada or "have ties" to the state. But hey, it never hurts to try. So, I sent out an email to the senator, but I do not expect any reply from his office.
This is what the same page states:
Regrettably, due to the volume of mail that I receive, I can only respond to mail from Nevadans or those with ties to the state. If you are not a Nevada resident, I encourage you to send a message to the Senators from your state of residence. The tradition of Senatorial courtesy calls upon Senators to give their colleagues the opportunity to assist constituents within their home states. You may want to visit http://www.senate.gov/ for a link to the websites of each member of the United States Senate.
Some encouraging news about Senate support for HR 3012
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...,1002582.story
And although it has encountered some obstacles in the Senate, it has broad bipartisan support there as well.Perhaps most important, the bill could usher in a new approach to immigration reform. For a decade, the conventional wisdom among reformers has been "all or nothing." We shouldn't pass any small fixes, the thinking went, because that would take the pressure off — we'd lose the head of steam we needed to pass comprehensive reform. But this strategy has produced only stalemate.
So maybe it's time to try a different approach: not all or nothing but step by step.
As the country-cap bill shows, the key to the new model will be to start small. Reforms should focus on the legal immigration system. Both Democrats and Republicans should initiate bills. Lawmakers will have to relearn the lost art of horse-trading. Over time, small steps will build trust and confidence. And who knows — perhaps, someday, they will build momentum for bigger steps.
Nice but not something that hasn't been said before. Its a pro-immigration person presenting of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Don't post lawmaker feedback openly. That will hurt our cause.
just wanted to understand. how it would hurt our cause. all i was trying to do was let our people no that....there are senators who want this bill to pass. i pasted only the response i for from the senator.
Once our opponents know the stand of a particular lawmaker, they will contact him and try to change his stand on the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by mesan123
Oh ok got it...may be i shuld hve removed the name :) ...
So fair to say no movement on HR 3012 till end Jan at least? Given recess begins tomorrow?
Not exactly, Senate Recess is To be decided (TBD). so they may take only a day recess for Christmas!!.(not practically!) but as per the pdf scheduleQuote:
Originally Posted by vishnu
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/re...1_calendar.pdf
USAToday reports on this new idea, but does nothing to talk about why they had come up with this idea esp. the inability to retain I/C STEM Degree holders due to country quota issue . Half baked articles like these only tend to increase the debate as to why United States need foriegn workers vs. focussing on the real issue. If you look at the comments section within the article, you will clealry notice negative energy from the public....
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Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
Somebody needs to bring in influential opinion makers into the mix.
The one guy I can think of is the NYT columnist and author Tom Friedman - he has a pro-skilled immigration outlook and is also pro-India / China. Besides, he is one of the most influential columnists in the world!
If ** or someone else approaches him, he may be amenable to writing a piece. And then, if we can ensure such an article remained on NYT's "Top 10 e-mailed articles" (as his articles often are), that I think will make a difference in DC.
go to thomas most of the bills are tied to HR 3012 , is it good or bad
DREAM Act and HR3012 are related bills as per Thomas
I am only seeing HR-3012 related with S-1857 and the two AGREE Act bills, one Senate and one House. This is completely fine since HR-3012/S-1857 is a subset of the AGREE Act. We are fine with either of them passing in Senate. Although, AGREE has had no recent activity after the buzz it generated when it was introduced - not sure whether it is headed anywhere.
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Originally Posted by lalaji
new from OH law firm
"H.R. 3012 in the Senate - Fading Hope for Passage Before End of Year as Senate Scramble with Last Minute Pressing Legislative Bills
Senate has been struggling with some nomination bills and it will be obsessed with the Payroll Tax Cut legislation today. There are other pressing legislations in the Senate agenda that need the full attention this year. Additionally, there is unconfirmed report that as part of the November 2012 Presidential Election Democrat strategy, Sen. Durbin may push again DREAM bill when the Congress returns next year. There is still a gleam of hope for the H.R. 3012, which may be considered difficult, if, should the last minute negotiation be worked out quickly producing the bi-partisan support in the Senate, the bill can be passed on unanimous consent. Clock keeps ticking
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One day I will have my GC - and then some day I will be a citizen and will be able to vote. I have only two choices:
1. Democrats - they are progressive and inclusive - but have never done anything for legal immigrants. Blue states in general are more tolerant and immigrant friendly to live in though.
2. Republicans - they want to deal with legal immigration - but always seems to come across as a group of racist old white dudes. I enjoy living in Upper MidWest - I have had good experiences in both East Coast and West Coast - but I can not imagine living in the deep red South (except Austin, TX).
What shitty choices for legal immigrants! Just wanted to vent.
I have lived in blue New York for few years and now i am living in South Carolina, as RED as it can get... I would say it has not been bad at all..in general people are really nice,, and awesome weather almost all around year,,,,but if i am allowed to vote, i think i ll be 60-70% blue based on my tendency of leaning a lot towards blue stronghold policy issues like, specially immigration, taxes, gay marriage issues, religious tolerance/ diversity, climate change,,etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by imdeng
oh thatz good...if something happens....fingers crossed
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Originally Posted by Kanmani
Kanmani...i am watching CSPAN, i see Senator DANA talking about global warming....am i wrong CSPAN channel.....
If the dream talk is already finished , what was the outcome of it
I didn't see DREAM act either. Was he watching some old recordings ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mesan123
DANA is in house. In senate it is Mike Enzi on some spending.
Kanmani Thanks for sharingQuote:
Originally Posted by Kanmani
This was expected as part of Nov 2012 Presidential election campaign, for wooing Latino votes! But will it help HR 3012 to pass unanimously.. ( as Sen Schumer said Swiftly! before the end of this year!)
Wait for the good to happen.