NOPEQuote:
Originally Posted by lalaji
This EAD is equivalent to L2 EAD.
I-485 EAD nowadays is a combo with Advance Parole ( mini GC)
NOPEQuote:
Originally Posted by lalaji
This EAD is equivalent to L2 EAD.
I-485 EAD nowadays is a combo with Advance Parole ( mini GC)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanmani
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92
The NPRM is still 03/00/2012 for the rule .Am I missing something?
oh no - looks like it has been changed back to March...I most certainly say 01/00/2012 till about 30 mins ago...
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92Quote:
Originally Posted by vishnu
201104 - this has 03/00/2012.
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92
201110 - this has 01/00/2012.
Latest has 01/00/2012.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweety0202
Hmmm........ Interesting ....So there are only 6 days left to publish?
Very happy to hear that . But this shouldn't be a compromise to H.R.3012
Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
right. Now also GUncle might come into picture.
But if you look at the leaked memo (dated back in 2010), u'll see that this particular case was mentioned as "approved by uscis officials" or something similar to that.Nothing can be said for sure considering this is election year.
Lets pray for this to come true. it should help all nationalities.
Is the process of rule making different from the regular process for making a bill into law?Quote:
Originally Posted by sweety0202
Incase it moves forward,arnd what time frame will this rule be implemented?
Can anyone plz shed some light into the process of rule making.
Yes .It is different.Go through the below link to better understand about NPRM & Rule making .Quote:
Originally Posted by iamdeb
It will take minimum of 60 - 90 days, if they decided to go further 'with out delay in the process till the rule made final'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rulemaking
So its "on the calendar". What does that mean ? When is it actually scheduled for ?
No word on vote yet....someone will have to file motion for cloture to break potential filibuster from Grassley.,..i am hoping Reid or Schumer will do that soon,,with 16 total signatures on motion to cloture,,or convince Grassley to remove his hold (more difficult)...no one has said anything yet about cloture yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by vizcard
Hi veni001/sportsfan33,
In case HR 3012 becomes law, will there be any effect at all on PD for EB 2 IC since the spillover from EB2 ROW is anyway coming to EB 2 IC ?
Irish E3 update..Lokks like will not be part of HR3012..
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Whi...138031223.html
Veni,Quote:
Originally Posted by veni001
I am confused. If HR.3012 becomes a law, wouldnt that be applicable immediately that is from OCT-2011 or the current fiscal year-2012? I believe we should get around 30k(85%) visas to both EB2 I/C from this fiscal year FY-2012 itself. Please correct me if I was wrong.
Hi Veni001,
If we make an assumption that HR 3012 is passed with an effective start date of April 1, 2012, can we estimate the impact on PD for EB 2 IC ?
Only if it says that it will be effective immediately after signed by the president! In most cases will have a future (effective) date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhas
Don't want to speculate at this moment, but if and when it becomes law it won't be a tough task to predict cut-off dates.Quote:
Originally Posted by vgraj1
Looks like this Bill is not an active one yet.
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/leg...e_leg_page.htm
Currently Active
Bills that may receive floor action this week.
Senate chamber
Debt limit, disapproval of increase of 1.2 trillion dollars submitted on January 12, 2012 S.J.Res.34 H.J.Res.98
Federal Aviation Administration, through February 17, 2012 H.R.3800
House chamber
Federal Aviation Administration S.223 H.R.658
Federal Aviation Administration, through February 17, 2012 H.R.3800
Payroll tax cut, extend
(H.R.3630 contains a variety of other provisions, including sections related to unemployment benefits, the Keystone XL pipeline, and Medicare.) S.1917, S.1931, S.1944 H.R.3630
Interesting to know who s lobbying for 3012:
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/billsum.php?id=128399
Some of them are not surprising and some of them are really interesting like:
US Chamber of Commerce
AILA is on the list as expected
FAIR is on the list - I don't know why, are they lobbying for it or against it???
Stanford University
and the most interesting is -
American Jewish Cmt -
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Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
Interesting list. Sadly the reports don't tell you if it's for/against or any more detail. Good to see my alma mater, Stanford, on the list. :)
This is what I found when I clicked on "No. of reports and specific issues" for American Jewish cmte :
"Support for comprehensive immigration reform; Support for Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011 (S.1857/H.R. 3012); Support for Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2011 (S.952/H.R.1842); Opposition to DHS Secure Communities program as implemented;......"
So, I guess they are supporting HR 3012.
Hi veni001,
HR3012 has been placed on the Senate Calendar 293 and it might come up for voting soon. There is a transition rule in the text placed before the Senate which says the following for FY-2012 Transition Rules:
(A) For fiscal year 2012, 15 percent of the immigrant visas made available under each of paragraphs (2) and (3) of section 203(b) of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1153(b)) shall be allotted to immigrants who are natives of a foreign state or dependent area that was not one of the two states with the largest aggregate numbers of natives obtaining immigrant visas during fiscal year 2010 under such paragraphs.
Do you know what this means for FY 2012?
Note: You can do a google search to get the text of bill in 'Bill Text 112th Congress (2011-2012) H.R.3012.PCS'
H.R.3012 only will be taken after filing a Cloture motion. unless GUncle removes his hold and they decide this bill to Unanimous consideration. We all will come to know if they decide to do a cloture mition. I think with the kind of lobbying it will not be too far. And all who are backlogged severly will be happy and Free to live their lives. Praying and hoping for the best to happen soon.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by narendarrao
Cloture is required only if the bill is filibustered. HR3012 is not filibustered yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Nope, Cloture is required if GUncle never removes his hold. in anticipation of fillibuster cloutre motion is invoked. If the bill is fillibustered then the bill is dead and will not be considered for voting. The Rule 14 helped the bill not to go to a Judicial committee and get buried. (Think about the time when H.R.3012 was put on Congress legislative calender for voting in the same way this can take some time)Quote:
Originally Posted by idiotic
someone had posted GUncle's reply in Trackitt. Per the reply, he has no intentions to remove hold, unless his amendments are agreed upon.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Cloture is THE ONLY option left. So many ppl's life changing person now is Mr.Reid.
Cloture is not filed after filibuster. It is filed inorder to avoid the filibuster. If there is an objection (which is otherwise called hold/Notice of intent to object) for taking up the Bill , then the Bill cannot be discussed in the Senate Floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by idiotic
Once a bill is under hold it cannot be debated as such ,so as to start a debate there should be an vote whether to start the debate or not ( let us say Vote 1). If this vote1 is failed this is called filibuster.
To avoid this Vote1 , the cloture motion is filed to straight away go to small debate(within time limits) later final voting .
Some of the previous methods of looooong overnight debates to kill the bill in the name of filibusters are not in practice/abandoned.
01/26/2012: H.R. 3012 in the Senate
Immigration Law website says :
The Senate convened today to take care of Motion to Proceed to H.J. Res. 98 (Relating to the disapproval of the President's exercise of authority to increase the debt limit). The motion was not agreed to by vote of 44-52 today. The legislative calendar number for H.J. Res. 98 is 294, while the legislative calendar number for H.R. 3012 is 293. Sometimes a bill is passed in the Senate by unaimous consent without vote if both sides of aisle agree to the bill. No one can however imagine such scenario at this point. The Senate floor monitor indicates that no motion to proceed for H.R. 3012, General Calendar 293, has been presented on the floor and after H.J. 98, Calendar 294 motion to proceed was rejected, the Senate adjourned until 5:00 p.m. this evening. There was no vote scheduled for other motions or bills early today, but we should watch carefully the Senate floor's session this evening. Please stay tuned to this website.
H.J.Res.98 is an urgent bill , so obviously it bypassed our bill which has an earlier number in the calendar.
Lets hope H.R.3012 is the next in row.
Hope so Kanmani, but unsure though. There are many other bills (at least 15-20) which in the 200s (ie, calendar #225 etc) which are read for second time and placed on calendar. Of course, the others may not have the same lobbying effort and super majority pass in House as our very own 3012. Hopeing for the best.
Source: immigration-law.com
01/26/2012: H.R. 3012 in the Senate
The Senate convened today to take care of Motion to Proceed to H.J. Res. 98 (Relating to the disapproval of the President's exercise of authority to increase the debt limit). The motion was not agreed to by vote of 44-52 today. The legislative calendar number for H.J. Res. 98 is 294, while the legislative calendar number for H.R. 3012 is 293. Sometimes a bill is passed in the Senate by unaimous consent without vote if both sides of aisle agree to the bill. No one can however imagine such scenario at this point. The Senate floor monitor indicates that no motion to proceed for H.R. 3012, General Calendar 293, has thus far been presented on the floor. Please stay tuned to this website.
This same website OH law firm, was connecting everything in the world to H.R.3012, Irish lobbying. yada..yada yada..even one White House appointment he said it will affect H.R.3012, we know what attorneys need. just fear mongering and keeping would be immigrants on their toes! People are more aware of the Law now adays, their techniques no more works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrick
Just wait for the good thing to happen, will free all of us from the clutches of this idiotic wait. Keep the Prayers high and contact the Senators through email.
Additionally. for your information. Procedure for invoking Cloture in the Senate.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/reso...pdf/98-425.pdf
Agreed. We may be wrong if the senate does end up taking this today, but I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Continuing what you are saying, and harping on what I usually do here - Its all good and nice that we are talking about this bill and law and details and articles and websites here. But at the end of it all, what will matter is whether or not this senator and that senator are willing to vote for it.
We can't do much anyways. But that doesn't mean we should not do the little we can. If you are spending your time on this forum, and NOT taking the time to call the senators, you need to rethink the real worthiness and effectiveness of how you are "wasting" your time on this board.
PLEASE, take 20 seconds and make a call. And then one more. And one more. It WILL have an impact.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/98-712.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by Kanmani
"Holds are an informal device unique to the upper body."...
"It is up to the majority leader to decide whether, or for how long, he will honor a
colleague’s hold. Scheduling the business of the Senate is the fundamental prerogative of the majority leader, and it is done in consultation with the minority leader."
No good news today from Senate....day in senate is almost over..... Reid did not file cloture motion for 3012...he did file cloture motion for some other bill (don't remember the number since it wasn't 3012).
Update from Oh Law firm:
01/27/2012: Will Advocates of Stand-Alone H.R. 3012 Alienate Irish Support?
Irish support of the elimination of per country limit in employment-based immigration system is obviously conditioned upon their Irish E-3 visa legislation being attached to the H.R.3012. In other words, Irish community is supporting the Senate bill which is sponsored by Sen. Schumer tacking their E-3 visa legislation on the text of H.R. 3012 and not the House bill H.R. 3012 itself. From the perspectives of the Irish community, passage of the stand-alone H.R. 3012 implies a requiem for their Irish E-3 visa legislation. For the reasons, advocates of the stand-alone H.R. 3012 can take a risk of alienating their ally, Irish community, that can potentially work against the passage of the stand-alone H.R. 3012 bill in the Senate. Something to think about for the advocates of legislation to eliminate per country limit in the employment-based immigration. Wishful thinking can blind one from seeing the reality and importance of compromise and negotiation in the legislative process. Elimination of per country limit is important from the perspectives of fairness. It is just the reality of process of legislation in this country which the advocates should not ignore.
As always, this OH law firm is good for nothing, what connection this Irish bill have with H.R.3012? H.R.3012 already passed House with overwhelming majority, that does not mean that any TDH can add anything and present it along with it. and This bill is already placed in Senate Calender. The wait time is only to file cloture and have the voting date. That is about it. This bill and Irish E-3 bill are two seperate issues. OH want some traffic to his site and fear mongering words always is his habit. Stay Tuned... sound familiar???Quote:
Originally Posted by lalaji
I always get the impression that they want to see the bill getting derailed. They wont be shy of posting lies and their own imaginations without any basis. A better source of reliable events and more upto date news is www.aila.org.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Please do not count on HR 3012 being taken up at all. It has for all practical purposes gone dormant. General orders under Rule VIII contains all those bills which nobody wants to take the initiative to vote. HR 3012 in one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanmani
If the lobbyists are any good and 16 Senators sign up for cloture, then we might have hope. I V is hopeful of removing Sen. G's hold. He rarely does so. It is futile. But worth a try. The cloture route is a hail Mary pass - absolute last ditch thing to do. So even if there are 16 Senators, nothing will be done for a few months.
Lets thank our stars that at least the VB is still moving ahead for EB2-IC.
In general, I would not have any expectations over legislation passage. However, the overwhelming majority support for 3012 in House (without debate that too) still makes me confident that this legislation is something that congress wants to pass
If this bill was for dying dormant like that.. in first place Reid would not have considered to have it on Rule XIV.. He could have made this bill to go to any Judiciary committee. For this non-controversial bill..(there is created controversy in internet! but among politicians this is really FAIR bill only still) cloture motion is not a big deal. but there might be other priorities before taking this bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by kd2008
Please don't spread un necessary rumours about H.R. 3012
Agree. Nowadays cloture is a normal business in Senate. It will remain so as long as obstructionists like Grassley are in senate. This bill will move to its logical conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
kd,
I have to say your intuitions are incorrect as far as HR 3012 goes.
Happy for EB2 movement, but rest of us need GC too.