Thanks mesan, fingers crossed,,monday s less thn a week away
Thanks mesan, fingers crossed,,monday s less thn a week away
My estimation is that proponents of the bill will still continue to try to persuade Sen. G to remove his hold. Invoking cloture to overcome the hold and/or filibuster will be the last resort option. Moreover, Sen. G. is the ranking member of Senate judiciary committee, and the unless the Republican support for the bill is near unanimous along with the Democrats, nobody is going to take the lead to bring the bill to vote. This bill is really not that important to any of the Senators to risk anything in an election cycle.
It is going to be a classic cat and mouse game. If Sen. G gives in, he will surely extract the pound of flesh in amendments he wants which renders the bill useless, after and if, it is sent back to the House with amendments.
At this stage, the tool of persuasion rests with Sen. Reid - the majority leader and Sen. McConnell, the minority leader. Since this bill was originally proposed by a Republican, Sen. Reid has no incentive to risk himself for it. I guess, so it rests with Sen. McConnell to take the lead. I don't think anyone is persuading him at all right now - at least not in public view.
With another political fight over continuation of payroll tax cut, Keystone pipeline, Debt ceiling looming, nobody is in the mood to show any bipartisanship.
So just lets continue to urge our Senators to support it, be patient, sit tight and watch.
From president job council--Latest -- HR3012 listed
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=275098
There is also a possibility that Reid will lead 3012 because of change in FB category cap in this bill. Last election Reid had hard time getting elected...there were few reasons but if i remember correctly one of the reasons was, his support/votes from hispanic community had dropped because of Failure of DREAM act...and taking lead on this bill may help him a little... not only Reid, all other democrats need this to excite their latino base to not loose senate majority this year...and this will help them a little(FB Cap in this bill)
I also think, there is a possibility DREAM Act will surface again before election...but chances of passing DREAM are close to "0%"...but for political reasons Dems will want to bring up DREAM ACt before election..so this bill is the closest they can get (passed) to any Family Based Immigration reform this election year and with minority in the house. I am hoping to see more happen this year specially Smith in the house is being active in Legal Immigration reform but I still fear something wrong may come out of Republican sponsored immigration bill.
I don't know what happened in last month behind the doors during break and I don't know if there were any deals made between Dems and Reps on 3012 but almost all Dems. would vote for this bill along with Liberman. (close to 50)
From Reps side i think Collins has record of going across the isle and Senator Graham and McCain would be great to contact from Republican side since they have been proponents of immigration reform in the past. Mike Lee supports this bill along with Rubio, Brown, Blunt, Boozman, Risch, & Wicker. (We already have 7 Rep Senators) Grassley has influence on Reps but since 3012 is Republican bill, they should not have problem getting 10-15 Republican votes.
I do think it has to happen soon (hopefully without amendments) before they all get into campaign mode.,,..because after that it can be little difficult to get anything passed in congress. Amendments might be difficult to avoid in Senate.
but Lets hope for the best.
From people I talked to - Letting Sen. G go ahead with the filibuster is a pandora's box. He may conflate it with American jobs, media will pick on it and the bill will get drowned in the opposition. The change in FB category is to appease "No piecemeal, CIR only" folks. Sen. Reid couldn't care less about the FB provision. He is in office for next 5 yrs.
Sen. Grassley is Mr. "No". He is objecting the nomination of Indian American - Ajit Varadaraj Pai, of Kansas, to be a Member
of the Federal Communications Commission. So sad.
White House response to petition for GC for advanced degree holders
Please see in appropriate thread here:
http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...degree-holders
Lalaji,Quote:
Originally Posted by lalaji
I appreciate your effort in posting links and bringing attention to published material. But when you post a link, please also write a sentence or two to specify what this link is about and how it is pertinent to the thread or the issue being discussed.
The aim isn't to discourage from sharing, but I went through the link above, and I am still not sure what it has to do with immigration, immigration advocacy, or the relevant bills and laws being discussed here.
The relevance is just that "Jobs council" had also recommended HR3012 as one of the many GOP bills Obama should consider.Quote:
Originally Posted by manubhai
some more relevant posting reg job council which may benefil HR3012
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...tion_year.html
Here is the report by Obama's Jobs council. http://files.jobs-council.com/files/...dReportWeb.pdf
Hopefully, Obama acts on the report rather than just plays election politics and create bitter environment between Senators from two parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by mniwas
Finally it is Jan23rd.....senate will be back today.... hope they bring the HR 3012 or bill similar to that soon ....
If anyone is watching C-span (Senate) after 2, please report here any activity on 3012.
Thank you
3012 has been read 2nd time,
what is next?
Jackbrown, could you please let us know what happened? Was it referred to a committee after that? Was it scheduled for a vote?
It should show up in Senate Calender under general orders tomorrow...
there is no update on debate/vote on 3012 from anyone yet.
Thank you for the updateQuote:
Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
It was reported to be placed on the calendarQuote:
Originally Posted by kd2008
CAn anyone of you enlighten me...what does this mean( sorry for me being so dumb :) )
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
Usually if it is placed in the calendar means it will come to the floor for voting, remember in the house, they placed in the calender as per today's agenda the voting will be on by 5:30 pm, no idea whether the bill will comeup for voting today! Just wait until 7:30 pm this evening. Hoping for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by mesan123
So apparently H.R. 3012 was read a second time today (I got this link off of **):
http://gov.mtopgroup.com/ref/art1/senate-live.htm
The following bills were read en bloc for a second time:
H.R. 440 (To provide for the establishment of the Special Envoy to Promote Religious Freedom of Religious Minorities in the Near East and South Central Asia).
H.R. 3012 (Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011).
The bills were read for a second time. Further readings were objected to and the bills were placed on the calendar.
What does this mean?
Update from oh law firm:
01/23/2012: H.R. 3012 Update in the U.S. Senate
The Senate convened today. In the today's session, H.R. 3012 (Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011) was read for a second time. Further readings were objected to and the bill was placed on the calendar. In a way way, it is a positive news to see resolution of this bill soon. It is interesting to see whether Sen. Harry Reid, Majority Leader, will introduce Motion for Cloture to break the potential filibuster by Senator Chuck Grassley.
Thank you for the reply... :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Does any one know what - 'Completed the Rule 14' process means ?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanmani
yup, there is a long list of legislations on general orders calendar, i hope 3012 will move on the floor soon..,,i m not sure where is ** s advocacy dept. doing to push 3012,.we still need more grassroots advocacy efforts from immigration community.
Senate passed only 90 bills total in 2011 (lowest since 1995) and this is n election year,,,so this year also senate probably won't be too active...
.it seems like the movement in Eb2 has slowed down our push for this bill,,, come on people i request you not to leave the push for 3012 right now even though if you are current or if you have already received EAD/GC etc...lets have another round of emails/letters to senators
Thank you,
It means, they were able to avoid the bill from going to a subcommittee (where it would have stalled or would have been dead) and now it is directly placed on senate calendar.Quote:
Originally Posted by girish989
There is no update on the debate/vote yet. let s hope it will happen this week and will pass without any amendments
RIN 1615-AB92 - rule for giving EAD to H4 spouses( of H1 primaries with approved i-140) seems to be updated.
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...&RIN=1615-AB92
The NPRM date was 03/00/2012 earlier.Now it has been updated to 01/00/2012.
Does anyone know what it means?
and it says that it is related to RIN 1615-ZB03 . I could not find any reference to 1615-ZB03. What is this RIN 1615-ZB03 about?
oh law reported this news yesterday,,,also wrote "It appears there is no change for this plan and may be initiate the rule-making process soon"Quote:
Originally Posted by sweety0202
there are 2 rules with the same RIN - number and one was updated on 01/00/2012 and other on 03/00/2012. I don't understand the date format and what does "00" mean.
on Thomas under congressional actions it has been updates as follow:
1/23/2012:
Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 293.
and under general orders: you can find this bill on page 46
I pray to god that HR3012 be taken up today, after seeing that there are so many bills on general order "Read the second time and placed on the calendar" and still waiting for the vote. It may be the lawmaking priorities (advocacy/lobbying/majority's agenda) or the rift between both parties in House and Senate.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CCAL-11...2012-01-24.pdf
01/00/2012 ...meaning any day during Jan 2012 :oQuote:
Originally Posted by jackbrown_890
Prayers and wiriting to your senators directly through printed letters makes lot of difference. H.R.3012 is almost at the end of the legislative process. only thing we need to know is whether Grass Uncle will go for a filli buster or not? and if it is .. then whether Sen.Majority leader is ready for a cloture vote appointment?, or if any amendment with mutual agreement with GUncle. so that this can be passed without much issues,. Legislative process takes its own sweet time. But We should contact our Senators and make them aware of this issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by pakkpk
if it is Jan 2012, I think it should be posted in Federal Register in Jan 2012. But I see the column for FR entry as NO.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
and after FR entry, a RIN gets almost a month of comment period. Nothing about comment period is mentioned here too.
Hope things move. this would be a good rule if it becomes final.
sweety
Previously during June 2011 the date was 03/00/2012. I think they are now ready with the Notice to publish in the Federal Register for 60 days comment period. My gut feeling says the whole process would be get done by March 2012.
Hope your words come true Kanmani :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanmani
But when I looked at previous RINs which became final via the NPRM route, theres almost 1 year gap b/w NPRM comment end period and Final Rule.
Considering CO's intention to give EAD to as many ppl as possible, I agree with you. This might - just might - be a rule soon.
They had the same kind of RIN back in 2009 to apply for I-485 without the date being current. GUncle wrote a letter to Mr.Mayarkoas, aslo his tails as officers in USCIS leaked out the internal memo to the media, and that plan is in the dust bin. Wishing all the best to this plan. Heads should roll from USCIS there are lot of hard core conservative right wing people(as officers) waiting to chop any immigrant at any point of time, they just want a simple reason to do that, Denials, RFE's are most common nowadays, even at the stage of I-485 adjustment of status, lot of genuine cases are suffering.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweety0202
Whether this EAD is equivalent to EAD filing during 485? Please throw some light...