EB2 Predictions (Rather Calculations) - 2011

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08-03-2011, 09:54 PM
nishant2200

Let me summarize today's stuff before Teddy beats me to it :D

"Nothing important happened today"

All waiting!

Q did again confirm trackitt trend - July 8 2007
08-03-2011, 10:10 PM
Monica12

Quote:

Originally Posted by nishant2200

Let me summarize today's stuff before Teddy beats me to it :D

"Nothing important happened today"

Ok.. so I'm checking the forum for some news before I hit the bed....and I see this. Now I don't have to check-out the previous posts.. thanks for the update Nishant ;)
Haripathhi, that is hilarious !!!!! :D:D
08-04-2011, 07:49 AM
username

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Originally Posted by bieber

may be because fy begins in october

yes you are right, I have understood wrong at first instant. Thanks ;)
08-04-2011, 07:52 AM
username

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Originally Posted by Spectator

vchirakala,

I think that is because the A number you are talking about is your Alien number, while the A-xxxxx-xxxxx is the PERM case number.

I believe the A in that designates Atlanta. Previously, some case numbers had a C designating Chicago.

Yes here 'A-xxxxx-xxxxx' is PERM CASE NUMBER NOT Alien number. If your PERM CASE is with Atlanta than you will get A#, if it is with Chicago than you will get C#, etc.
08-04-2011, 08:11 AM
vchirakala

So if i want to check for the status in the links he sent what do I need to do ???

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Originally Posted by Spectator

vchirakala,

I think that is because the A number you are talking about is your Alien number, while the A-xxxxx-xxxxx is the PERM case number.

I believe the A in that designates Atlanta. Previously, some case numbers had a C designating Chicago.
08-04-2011, 08:14 AM
familyguy

Spec,
In the Facts and Data thread - Perm data analysis section, I used your formulae (=DATE(2000+INT(MID(A2,3,5)/1000),1,MOD(MID(A2,3,5),1000))) against my case number and I got 8/7/2006 as my priority date (received date). But my actual priority date is 1/10/2008... Did I miss something?

Thanks much...
08-04-2011, 08:17 AM
nishant2200

http://icert.doleta.gov/

vchirakala, here u can check case status for labor. U cant find underlying USCIS petetion (H1, 140, etc.) status.
08-04-2011, 08:27 AM
Spectator

Quote:

Originally Posted by familyguy

Spec,
In the Facts and Data thread - Perm data analysis section, I used your formulae (=DATE(2000+INT(MID(A2,3,5)/1000),1,MOD(MID(A2,3,5),1000))) against my case number and I got 8/7/2006 as my priority date (received date). But my actual priority date is 1/10/2008... Did I miss something?

Thanks much...

familyguy,

Can you either post or PM me the date part of your PERM case number? I don't want the full personally identifiable number.

If your number was A-08273-91471 I only want you to provide the 08273 part.

Thanks
08-04-2011, 08:38 AM
familyguy

Spec, I just sent you a PM.. Thanks a lot :)
08-04-2011, 08:51 AM
vchirakala

nishanth

I have only SRC number and A xxx xxx xxx in my approved I140. Am I missing something here ?

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Originally Posted by nishant2200

http://icert.doleta.gov/

vchirakala, here u can check case status for labor. U cant find underlying USCIS petetion (H1, 140, etc.) status.
08-04-2011, 08:59 AM
Spectator

Quote:

Originally Posted by familyguy

Spec, I just sent you a PM.. Thanks a lot :)

familyguy,

I checked the number you gave me and it gives a Received Date of January 10, 2008 which is correct from your previous post.

Given the first 2 digits are 08 then it can't report a date in 2006.

Possibly the problem is with the explanation in the description. Using =DATE(2000+INT(MID(A2,3,5)/1000),1,MOD(MID(A2,3,5),1000)) then the case number needs to be in cell A2. If the Case Number was in cell B2684, then the formula would need changing accordingly.

I will change the post to say A1 and make it clear which part refers to the location of the Case Number.

Could you try again and report back please?
08-04-2011, 08:59 AM
mesan123

Vchirakala,

in the below site you can know your labor status, with SRC number you need to check in USCIS website. If you have approved I140 , what are you trying to find out? just to know so that if i know i can help you better :)

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Originally Posted by vchirakala

nishanth

I have only SRC number and A xxx xxx xxx in my approved I140. Am I missing something here ?
08-04-2011, 09:00 AM
nishant2200

Quote:

Originally Posted by vchirakala

nishanth

I have only SRC number and A xxx xxx xxx in my approved I140. Am I missing something here ?

Ok so u have 140. On that, the SRC is Texas service center case receipt number that you can use for 140 status inquiries on USCIS website and anywhere you need to add a pointer to 140. The A number on ur 140 is ur Alien number (A #), this is like ur immigration SSN, u are now bound to it. Can be used in USCIS FOIA.
08-04-2011, 09:13 AM
familyguy

Spec, I got the result now :)
Earlier it looks like it took A2 only so it got messed up...

Thanks a lot :)

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Originally Posted by Spectator

familyguy,

I checked the number you gave me and it gives a Received Date of January 10, 2008 which is correct from your previous post.

Given the first 2 digits are 08 then it can't report a date in 2006.

Possibly the problem is with the explanation in the description. Using =DATE(2000+INT(MID(A2,3,5)/1000),1,MOD(MID(A2,3,5),1000)) then the case number needs to be in cell A2. If the Case Number was in cell B2684, then the formula would need changing accordingly.

I will change the post to say A1 and make it clear which part refers to the location of the Case Number.

Could you try again and report back please?
08-04-2011, 09:19 AM
Spectator

Quote:

Originally Posted by familyguy

Spec, I got the result now :)
Earlier it looks like it took A2 only so it got messed up...

Thanks a lot :)

familyguy,

I have updated the post in FACTS & DATA. Could you take a look at it and tell me whether, with the revision, you would now make the same mistake. Is it now clearer? I want to avoid it happening again.

Thanks
08-04-2011, 09:43 AM
familyguy

Spec, It looks great now.. Earlier, for some reason, formula did not copied over properly to other cells and that's what caused the problem.. when i did second time, excel automatically updated the cell values appropriately...

Thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectator

familyguy,

I have updated the post in FACTS & DATA. Could you take a look at it and tell me whether, with the revision, you would now make the same mistake. Is it now clearer? I want to avoid it happening again.

Thanks
08-04-2011, 10:24 AM
vchirakala

Thank you. This is what it is ... in feb 2007 company A filed my perm and I got it approved in Mar 2007. I sent the docs for I140 to company A. I dont know if they filed / approved/ denied for that I140. Later in April 2008 different company filed my PERM and my current PD is Apr 2008. So I need to find out if the previous company applied for my I140 and it got approved so that I can port that.

regards
Chirakala

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Originally Posted by nnnnn123

Vchirakala,

in the below site you can know your labor status, with SRC number you need to check in USCIS website. If you have approved I140 , what are you trying to find out? just to know so that if i know i can help you better :)
08-04-2011, 10:25 AM
nishant2200

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Originally Posted by la_2002_ch

Spec, I used the above formula in the excel sheet to calculate my priority date. My Case number is A-08113 and I had my case number in Cell A1. I got a date of Apr 2008, while the approvaed labor certificate sent to me by by employer states Sep 2008. Please advise where am I making a mistake.

Not hijacking Spec's reply here. Just a thought. PD is date labor was received, not when approved. Which date u looking on labor docs.
08-04-2011, 10:30 AM
la_2002_ch

My Labor Approval date is Jun 2009. I am looking at Date of Acceptance for
Processing: Sep xx, 2008
08-04-2011, 10:38 AM
Spectator

Quote:

Originally Posted by la_2002_ch

Spec, I used the above formula in the excel sheet to calculate my priority date. My Case number is A-08113 and I had my case number in Cell A1. I got a date of Apr 2008, while the approvaed labor certificate sent to me by by employer states Sep 2008. Please advise where am I making a mistake.

la_2002_ch,

You are not necessarily making a mistake.

That number gives me a Received Date of April 22, 2008.

As discussed in another post, the calculation is not foolproof. It can only be a best attempt.

I think it was kd2008 who told us that the number is generated when the lawyer first enters the case in the system. Some lawyers do this early in the process (perhaps when the PWD is obtained or when the advertising is in progress) and only actually submit the final application at a later date when the application can be completed.

In this case, the generated number will give a date earlier than the actual Received Date.

Possibly this is the case for you.

In general, lawyers don't change their behaviour. At an individual level, the calculation may not work, but overall it is likely that they did the same for other applicants and this should balance out.
08-04-2011, 10:54 AM
username

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Originally Posted by username

This link have detailed PERM information: http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx

I think if someone wants to take specific perm applications for calculation like CERTIFIED, CERTIFIED-EXPIRED and not DENIED or WITHDRAWN can use this link http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx.

It is interesting that you can find company names and sponsored people in this database. With job titles you can even guess who they are. I found mine(using my perm case number A-xxxxx-xxxxx), my job title being so specific.

The important thing I have notice is my perm was filed in Nov-2007 and it was listed under '2008MDB Text' not under '2007MDB Text'. I guess it may be listed in 2008 because my perm got approved in Jan-2008.

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Originally Posted by soggadu

Very very very good response... makes so much sense in the present scenario... arre tabhi 2008 aur 2009 mein bhi perm filings 30K se voopar hein...

Here we go...
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/d5649 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/d5649.jpg

Somebody told in previous posts that Certified labor will later become Certified-Expired labor which dose not sound right as per MDB Text data. All perm case numbers are different in Certified and Certified-Expired. The Certified and Certified-Expired data holds unique perm case numbers.
08-04-2011, 11:24 AM
nishant2200

I think the H1 labors do expire after 180 days. Let me research on google. Bottomline is both certified and certified expired are to be counted for analysis for GC labors PERM. Also a certified expired does not mean it was denied or withdrawn.

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Originally Posted by username

Here we go...
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/d5649 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/d5649.jpg

Somebody told in previous posts that Certified labor will later become Certified-Expired labor which dose not sound right as per MDB Text data. All perm case numbers are different in Certified and Certified-Expired. The Certified and Certified-Expired data holds unique perm case numbers.
08-04-2011, 11:29 AM
nishant2200

Quote:

Originally Posted by nishant2200

I think the H1 labors do expire after 180 days. Let me research on google. Bottomline is both certified and certified expired are to be counted for analysis for GC labors PERM. Also a certified expired does not mean it was denied or withdrawn.

Gotcha:

http://www.murthy.com/news/n_procha.html

Uscis did this in July 2007 for GC PERM too, trying to prevent a big bodyshop labor trading loophole, IMHO
08-04-2011, 11:30 AM
username

Quote:

Originally Posted by nishant2200

I think the H1 labors do expire after 180 days. Let me research on google. Bottomline is both certified and certified expired are to be counted for analysis for GC labors PERM. Also a certified expired does not mean it was denied or withdrawn.

nishant, this data are purely green card labor data and don't include H1B labor. If you click the link(http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx) you will see following as first line..
Permanent Program Data

The data available for the Permanent Labor Certification Program is for applications that have been received and entered into the Department of Labor tracking system. On your left hand navigation there is link to see H1B labor..
08-04-2011, 11:33 AM
la_2002_ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectator

la_2002_ch,

You are not necessarily making a mistake.

That number gives me a Received Date of April 22, 2008.

As discussed in another post, the calculation is not foolproof. It can only be a best attempt.

I think it was kd2008 who told us that the number is generated when the lawyer first enters the case in the system. Some lawyers do this early in the process (perhaps when the PWD is obtained or when the advertising is in progress) and only actually submit the final application at a later date when the application can be completed.

In this case, the generated number will give a date earlier than the actual Received Date.

Possibly this is the case for you.

In general, lawyers don't change their behaviour. At an individual level, the calculation may not work, but overall it is likely that they did the same for other applicants and this should balance out.

Got it Thanks. This makes total sense, as my case was earlier supposed to be filed in early May, but then got delayed due to internal politics.

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