hmm...also...keep "DONT THINK SO" until we both get current ok!!!!....Quote:
Originally Posted by nishant2200
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hmm...also...keep "DONT THINK SO" until we both get current ok!!!!....Quote:
Originally Posted by nishant2200
Sai999Quote:
Originally Posted by sai999
This demand data by Spec , you are refering to is the total of India+China demand including PWMB but excluding porting
Your 10K is India alone or I+C ?
Folks.. i am looking for some urgent help.. if any of you have experience in renewing your passport in the Indian consulates in USA.. can you please answer my question below -
http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...in-CGI-Houstan
Thanks much!
Once my query is answered.. i will delete this post.. sorry to digress from the purpose of this thread....
I'll consider getting an InfoPass. End of the day I'll be held responsible for not filing before 90 days (no godly clue why a simple renewal takes 90-120 days after charging 380 bucks!?!). 2 yrs ago it took just 40 days. HR lady made it clear that I cannot remain employed without EAD. But since I've been a permanent employee for 3 yrs I would hope it'll be unpaid leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
Not sure what "IV" is? Is there a ball park time frame that you believe before which the pending 2006 EB2 folks will get their GCs?
If you submit all the documents they need you should get it in 2 weeks. I renewed my PP (issued in India) in Houston and had no problem. I don't think you need to worry about verification with india. I went to the consulate to give my docs and got it back in 2 weeks by Fedex. Now this was 2 yrs back, things might have changed since. I know they have outsourced PIO card processing.
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Originally Posted by skpanda
qblogfan,Quote:
Originally Posted by qblogfan
Yes, we nailed it back in August! (post#6864)
Thanks for pointing it out. Gurus covered everything! :)
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Originally Posted by veni001
Kanmani,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanmani
Yes i am referring to both I + C ,i am still not convinced with September 2007 we have pending 14,778 applications,i am thinking of around 10-12 k for both I+C ( Including PWMB + Porting) and i am thinking of porting is less than 3-4 k in whole year.By seeing all these factors and date movement in October i am thinking of dates can to go end 2008 to fill the pipe line.
Please let me know your thoughts...
April 2007 -------- 1,293
May 2007 ---------- 3,498
June 2007 --------- 6,282 (without spillover or Porting) FY2012 would end in June 2007)
July 2007 -------- 10,675
August 2007 ------ 12,860
September 2007 --- 14,778
October 2007 ----- 16,975
November 2007 ---- 19,010
December 2007 ---- 20,888 (if porting were 5,000 then 25,888 visas required to clear Dec 2007)
January 2008 ----- 23,453
February 2008 ---- 25,870
March 2008 ------- 27,856
April 2008 ------- 30,259
May 2008 --------- 32,482
June 2008 -------- 34,372
July 2008 -------- 36,174
August 2008 ------ 37,947
September 2008 --- 39,584
October 2008 ----- 41,669
November 2008 ---- 43,403
December 2008 ---- 45,226
I am seeing various posts that by end of 2012, date might not even go past nov-dec 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by veni001
According our gurus - till march'2007 there is 30000 Demand ( with porting and pwmb), is this including multiple of 2.25/2.07? or else we need to multiply 30000*2.07/2.25?
1) If 30000 includes spouse/child, then if we assume there is 22000 spill over next year ( so it reaches around november), does co need to move dates forwards by few months so as to build up inventory for 2013 and as a result of it do we need to assume there is optimistic possibility that people till mar-may 2008 might get their EAD?? by end 2012 ( I mean December 2012)/March 2013?
And also i remember nvc receipts for consular processing usually given 1 year in advance.
2) if the 30000 needs to be multiplied then it highly impossible to reach pd even March by 2014 - hope this is not case
IV is Immigration Voice, google it to find websiteQuote:
Originally Posted by muntazir
EAD policy is dependent on company, some allow just leave of absence, some don't, really sorry. I have heard that if it's more than 90 days, you can take infopass, and they give you temporary EAD card.
I am not sure why you still don't have GC, but I don't think dates will ever retrogress that far back, so you should always be current.
The figures by Spec I think he uses 2.05 dependant factor, but he can answer better.
I can say though that the figures include the dependents. If not, I would have considered going to timbuktoo to stay in a hole in the ground :)
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Originally Posted by grnwtg
My take on this would be that , its difficult to judge data by 2k/3k accuracy. As i quoted previously
1) I have some ( i can personally count atleast 30 with confidence and most of them got married after 2008 so they have child only after that) female batch mates from Masters whose priority dates were in 2007 and 2008 who already got their GC's from their Husbands apps
2) apart from it i have few friends who got multiple labors which 2007 and first half of 2008 priority dates ( These people jumped from Desi consultancies to Full time Employment, i can count 4-5 of them as everybody does not declare this openly).
3) There is no definite agreement on amount of porting people as it depends on strictness of application validation, if they are strict in validation it might be same as this year or even less orelse it might even jump high.
But probably my personal contacts might be different from others.
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Originally Posted by sai999
Thanks for Calrification Nishant.
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Originally Posted by nishant2200
Romney's take on Immigration ( week old), I did quick search with 'Romney' and it not return any post, sorry if it was Repost
http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...H_1B_visa_need
Looks like perry is also supporter of high tech immigration
The below line is misleading
December 2007 ---- 20,888 (if porting were 5,000 then 25,888 visas required to clear Dec 2007)
I thought porting =5000 should have been negated by the yearly (I+C)quota of 5606.
There fore to reach December 2007 (incl porting) will still need 20,888 SO.
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Originally Posted by sai999
Sai
I+C ALREADY SUBMITTED (during 2007 fiasco Apr 15 to aug17) = 8350 *
As Veni already replied you inthe earlier post , Spectator has compiled PERM data into a table which shows number of People whose perm approved after Aug 2007 (CHINA & INDIA )as follows
- PD -- FY2007 -- FY2008 -- FY2009 -- FY2010 -- FY2011 --- Total ---- %
Jan-07 ---- 24 ------ 29 ------ 17 ------- 1 ------- 3 ------ 74 --- 0.48%
Feb-07 ---- 44 ------ 42 ------ 22 ------- 5 ------- 1 ----- 114 --- 0.74%
Mar-07 ---- 71 ------ 55 ------ 18 ------- 4 ------- 2 ----- 150 --- 0.98%
Apr-07 --- 212 ------ 71 ------ 24 ------- 3 ------- 0 ----- 310 --- 2.02%
May-07 --- 495 ----- 141 ------ 49 ------ 11 ------- 2 ----- 698 --- 4.55%
Jun-07 --- 721 ----- 303 ------ 68 ------ 13 ------- 2 --- 1,107 --- 7.21%
Jul-07 --- 471 ----- 523 ----- 176 ------ 26 ------- 5 --- 1,201 --- 7.82%
Aug-07 --- 567 --- 1,189 ----- 251 ------ 85 ------- 8 --- 2,100 -- 13.68%
Sep-07 --- 100 --- 1,781 ----- 297 ----- 109 ------- 6 --- 2,293 -- 14.94%
Oct-07 ----- 0 --- 2,187 ----- 148 ----- 286 ------- 7 --- 2,628 -- 17.11%
Nov-07 ----- 0 --- 2,016 ------ 35 ----- 376 ------- 7 --- 2,434 -- 15.85%
Dec-07 ----- 0 --- 1,914 ------ 36 ----- 284 ------ 13 --- 2,247 -- 14.63%
Total -- 2,705 -- 10,251 --- 1,141 --- 1,203 ------ 56 -- 15,356 - 100.00%
From the above table you can see PERM from Apr 15 to Sept 30 is atleast 7554 .
This 7554 perm would provide atleast 7000 EB2 485s (which includes primary+ dependents )
I guess your estimation is too low
* Total from Demand Data of oct bulletin
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Originally Posted by sai999
cbpds1, I would say that more and more we see the figures, it becomes fuzzy. I myself sometimes have an eureka moment like this, and then Spec, Veni , Q or Teddy point out my theory can be recycled :)
Let's wait for the great Spectator to rise and answer this. We have surely rubbed the lamp for the genie to arise.
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Originally Posted by cbpds1
Some thoughts:
The current immigrant system is not protecting labor at all. From PERM process to I140 process, employers can hide everything and the employees have no rights to ask or check the application at all. The current immigration system maximizes the rights and power of the employers and give no rights to employees.
Now for Indian and Chinese GC applicants, we may have to wait for 4-5 years before we can submit 485. During these 4-5 years, we are kept in darkness. We don't know what the employers did and we can be cheated by the employers easily. This is ridiculous!
Luckily I came to know FOIA process from Indian friends and finally got my 140 application secretly. My company didn't give me any document in the past 4-5 years. This system is designed and used to exploit foreign labor and has no protection of the employee's interest at all!
It's not a fair system, it's cold blooded, especially for the Chinese and Indian applicants who have to wait for 4-5 years before the submission of 485. A guy on mitbbs was cheated and he was kept in darkness for 4-5 years and finally the company told him they didn't do anything for him. He couldn't do anything to his company, although he was cheated and wasted 4-5 years of his youth.
This system does not protect employee interests at all. It's explicit exploitation. Sorry for my words. I encourage everybody to use FOIA to check employer's work. We can't take the risk of being cheated. Here is the form for FOIA request. It took me six months to get it. I would recommend you to get it as soon as your 140 is approved.
www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-639.pdf
spec's table shows how many visas needed, total required is 25k, regardless you call out the quota separately or not 25k is the numberQuote:
Originally Posted by cbpds1
every day I pray to god for giving me an opportunity to work for an excellent employer... my employer is very transparent, shares each and every document with me... i know not every one gets a good employer like mine... in fact my previous employer was blood sucker, just like yours...
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Originally Posted by qblogfan
Yes, it depends on luck. Some of my friends' companies allow them to do PERM/140 by themselves. From PERM to 140, the employees can keep track of every details, but my company only uses their own attorney and I can't access any document/file they filed. The only document their mailed to me was the last page of PERM approval notice and they asked me to sign it. They didn't even mail me the first several pages of the PERM file.
FOIA is the best way to verify and counter attack the evil employers like mine.
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Originally Posted by familyguy
Spec's thread in FACTS and DATA section says "How Much Spillover is Required?"
In this thread the last sentence before the numbers says "Add your assumed Porting figure to the numbers e.g. if you think Porting will be 5,000, then to reach the end of December 2007 will require 25,888 visas (SOFAD)."
The column header says
------------------- SOFAD
------------------ FY2012
Not including any Porting
<Data table>
When folks look at the numbers they think they need xxx spillover and 5.6k is not considered.
Certain predictions made earlier based on Spec's numbers as SO required did not consider 5.6k regular quota
Am just trying to see if we made a small mistake assuming it as SOFAD instead of number of visas required.
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Originally Posted by bieber
Qblogfan - thanks for sharing the info.
By law companies have to hide certain pieces of information from the beneficiary, for example the recruiting process during PERM which requires advertising and seeking any US citizens for the job can (should) not be shared with the beneficiary to keep it fair and unbiased.
But at the completion of each milestone the companies must provide the evidence to the beneficiary such as a copy of the petitions filed/approved etc.
However I have a few friends who faced issues getting the information from their employers for various reasons. FOIA is a great tool to protect the beneficiary in those situations.
If you see the Teddy's calculation in the below thread, I decipher that he may be adding porting and then using Spec's numbers as Spillover required and not considering 5.6k regular quota.
http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...=8340#post8340
Disclaimer: I may be totally wrong as I have not done any number crunching but have been a silent observer of the calc
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Originally Posted by bieber
Wow - this data is amazing. I had no idea that India is now accounting for such a large proportion of GC applications. Could you please share the source qblogfan?
This is based in Labor filings - so I guess it includes EB-2+3 but not EB1. This probably means that PD for EB-India will continue to be atrociously behind. EB-China will perhaps move much faster than India until spillover forces them to get matched. Even counting for that, in near future we might reach a situation where India is the only retrogressed country in EB-2 and EB-2C is current as well.
Its quite amazing that South Korea is not retrogressed. I read somewhere that South Koreans now form the largest foreign student group in US - so it might just be a matter of time before EB-SK gets backlogged. However, the counterpoint is that in my experience a lot more SK students go back to Korea than Indian or Chinese students.
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Originally Posted by qblogfan
imdeng,Quote:
Originally Posted by imdeng
Please check FACTS AND DATA SECTION for lot more info on EB.
We don't want to get their secret information, but the fact is that the employer can refuse to provide any evidence of the completion of each step.
My employer didn't give me even one piece of paper as evidence of approval of PERM/140. I never got any copy of anything. When I ask, they always say it's company property and I don't have rights to ask for anything before 485.
Approved I140 is company's property and we are also their properties just like the slaves in 1800s. The employers put their feet on our face, but we can't argue or fight because our xxxxxxx is fasterned by GC. When we fight the employers with Kong Fu, our xxxxxx will be painful.
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Originally Posted by cool_mj007
I copied it from MITBBS, but I think originally it was from USCIS. Sorry for missing source.
SK EB2 can get GC in 1 year or less.
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Originally Posted by imdeng
SOFAD by definition means numbers from all sources so it includes the 5.6K.Quote:
Originally Posted by cbpds1
I think you should consider Info pass or call their 1800 number and speak to a level 2 person, there should be a number attached to your case, hopefully they can green you right then if you get to a good person. All the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by muntazir
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Originally Posted by veni001
qblogfan,Quote:
Originally Posted by qblogfan
SK demand was down for FY2011, coupled with lower filings and higher denial rate!
SKP,Quote:
Originally Posted by skpanda
Apart from your address verification, normally consulates do not check anything. No police check etc. If you have a copy of your ration card or voter ID card, pls submit it, it will expedite your application. Typically you'll get your new passports in 4-6 weeks. I am not sure if there is an express service. My wife and I have got our passports renewed in last couple of years at CGI Houston without any problem. Once you have submitted all the documents, you don't need to do anything. Hope it helps.
Sandeep,Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandeep2011
That's not always true, they do some applications randomly and i was one of them last year.
For my PP renewal it took about 10 weeks.
Good Luck.
Thanks for correcting. I was not aware of anyone whose application had to go through police verification.Quote:
Originally Posted by veni001
Thanks.. i do not have ration card or voter id card in india.. infact i do not even have a PAN card...
i have never heard of voter id card... where do we get that?
instructions say that i have to give two pieces of address proof. I assumed that they meant the address proof of USA. Do they need address proof for India address where I do not live??
Also.. the indian address on my passport is not the same address where my parents live... will that be a problem?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Sandeep2011
Also, in NY ( not sure about other locations) if you haven't got a passport in NY before, the PP is valid only for a year but you can reapply in 3months to extend to 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandeep2011
All,
I see a lot of discussion about the "How Much Spillover ..." table.
I agree that the How Much table needs to be updated at some point - it is quite old now and things have moved on.
I think the best time to do that is when September has finished and we can see what the final figures look like. Possibly it would be good to see the Demand Data for November as well.
I am on vacation right now with limited internet access and no time to look at the data. However, I have been preparing for this already.
Once I'm back, I'll talk to the other Gurus about what to show in a revised table. I would prefer it to be base data that people add numbers to based on their own assumptions, rather than including either my own or others assumptions.
As a reminder, the existing figures assume that 60% of Certified EB2-IC PERM are EB2 and only 68% of 2007 PD Certified PERM ever make it to I-485 approval (85% of 80%) and 72% for PD 2008. Whether this is pessimistic or optimistic, I leave to individuals to make their own judgement on.
The table will be updated - please be patient.
Spec "limited internet access" on vacation tells me you are probably single. Otherwise "any internet access on vacation" is a sufficient condition to make you single :)
Enjoy your vacation! After the September bummer, the October bulletin has infused life in the forum again.
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Originally Posted by Spectator
Sorry to move off-topic. Just got a reply from Senator Durbin for the letters and the e-mail that I sent by signing the petition before a week or so. For people like me who are stuck in this mess and has a PD of 2011, some kind of immigration reform is the only hope.
__________________________________________________ _____________________
Dear Dr. -----:
Thank you for your message regarding the green card backlog. I appreciate hearing from you.
I am pleased to be an original cosponsor of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2011, S. 1258. Several provisions address family and employment visa reforms. Among these reforms, this bill would recapture unused visas from Fiscal Year (FY) 1992 through 1997. S. 1258 also would increase immigration visas for children and siblings of United States citizens and provide a specific visa allocation for unmarried children of permanent resident aliens. In addition, this bill would allow workers who are eligible for permanent resident status adjustment but for whom a visa number is unavailable to apply for adjustment.
As the son of an immigrant, I believe one of America's strengths is its diversity. It is in our national interest to build upon that strength through a system that maximizes the positive opportunities legal immigration affords by allowing qualified immigrants to contribute to our economy and share their talents and strengths with our communities.
I support efforts to enhance the efficiency and accountability of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). It is essential to protect the safety and due process rights of our nation's immigrants at our borders, while fully enforcing our immigration laws and protecting our national security. In the past several years, USCIS and other agencies have implemented policies to reduce the backlog of visa applications. In addition, Congress has appropriated funds specifically for reducing backlogs at USCIS.
The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which I am a member. I will continue to keep your concerns in mind as the Senate considers these issues further. Thank you again for contacting me.
Sincerely,
Richard J. Durbin
United States Senator
__________________________________________________ ______________________
I don't care whether it is Republicans or Democrats in power, but they should do something about the plight of the legal immigrants stuck in this EB2-EB3 mess and I hope they have some kind of bipartisan agreement on this issue. Have a good weekend to all and congratulations to those who got current this visa bulletin.
Hi, I am new to this forum. Thank you all for the wonderful discussions and taking time to help others out.Quote:
Originally Posted by cool_mj007
Have any of you here used FOIA to get the I140 approval copy ? My cousin's employer doesn't share approval copies other than telling her PD is 2/22/08 and filed in EB2. Is it possible for her to get I-140 approval copy using FOIA ? Any help & instructions on this is greatly appreciated. If it is already discussed, please point me to the link. Thanks again.