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This is Sen.Rubio's latest press release
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ure-89493.html
Please watch C-Span now if you can. A former staffer of Sen.McCain is speaking
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To gs1968
I hope I am not accused of hogging this thread but I was unable to watch the NBC show but managed to get the details online
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...-complete?lite
The concluding paragraph is encouraging and I really hope he is saying that sincerely
"I think that we'll stick together as a Gang," he said. "And I hope that we can pull some Republicans our way. I think a number of them are with us already."
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Marco Rubio's presidential bid hopes and immigration
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This is encouraging
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...use-89499.html
In the middle of the second page is this-
Republicans say reforming visa laws for high-tech workers is key to a compromise.
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gs1968
I am putting some quotes from above article which seem important. Entire article seems very important and useful.
"Sources describe the House plan as not differing to starkly from a compromise being drafted by the Senate’s Gang of Eight, a bipartisan group that is also nearing the finish line"
"The GOP is also mulling skipping the committee process and instead having lengthy discussions among Republicans to work out the legislation’s kinks"
"The House is unlikely to vote on one big bill. Instead, the legislation is likely to be moved in parts, so Republicans and Democrats can vote against elements they oppose."
"Republicans say reforming visa laws for high-tech workers is key to a compromise"
"Throughout the process, both Republicans and Democrats have recognized that Labrador is the lynchpin to getting something done. Without his stamp of approval, a compromise could easily fall apart. Labrador is focused on the pathway to citizenship and ensuring that Congress tightens restrictions on which family members can follow a newly legal immigrant into the country"
"It’s unclear whether lawmakers will unveil principles of agreement or a draft bill when they return from recess, sources say. But when a product is unveiled, both Republicans and Democrats will have to begin the process of gathering support from outside groups. That is something that Senate negotiators chose to do ahead of time. But House members can always draw on the principles agreed to by such groups as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO for the Senate draft."
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Sorry to barge in.
But for any PR, self petition should have been the best case (without PERM/I-140 etc.) as this will remove all the attachments with employer. Just a proof of having a regular paid job in a lacking skill category for certain duration. No doubt there would be be loopholes to exploit. But this will prevent employers (hand in hand with lawyers) exploiting the employees.
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rupen86
Wow, if they can petition themselves, and if that will be counted against EB numbers, I do not know how EB backlog will work out. I do not think this will apply to high skill immigration. That will be limited to H1 discussion and some changes in manipulating EB numbers.
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bvsamrat
Sorry to barge in.
But for any PR, self petition should have been the best case (without PERM/I-140 etc.) as this will remove all the attachments with employer. Just a proof of having a regular paid job in a lacking skill category for certain duration. No doubt there would be be loopholes to exploit. But this will prevent employers (hand in hand with lawyers) exploiting the employees.
I like the idea but I do not like the fact that it would be only for the low skill workers are not high skill. Also, I do not like the fact that it might eat the numbers from EB which is currently heavily backlogged.
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...et/?hpt=hp_bn3
On a different note, why is it that small details on illegal immigrants pathway to citizenship (such as 10 years to get GC, 3 years to get citizenship, back taxes, hefty fine, english proficiency etc etc) are getting out in the media but none about legal immigration (taking dependents out of quota, STEM GCs etc)? I am starting to wonder if they are really working on improving legal immigration.
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idiotic
My understanding was that this had to be done way before Thanksgiving before House Republicans start campaigning for mid-term elections and veer to the right...
The Thanksgiving bit seems to be an extrapolation on the reporter's part but the House will definitely have to vote before the fall IMHO if this is to have any hope. Hopefully once the Senate passes it, Obama can use that as a cudgel to get the House to move faster...
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abcx13
My understanding was that this had to be done way before Thanksgiving before House Republicans start campaigning for mid-term elections and veer to the right...
The Thanksgiving bit seems to be an extrapolation on the reporter's part but the House will definitely have to vote before the fall IMHO if this is to have any hope. Hopefully once the Senate passes it, Obama can use that as a cudgel to get the House to move faster...
My understanding is that it should be done before August recess.
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Rubio's stand from the begining was, to secure borders before anything can be done
Democrats don't care about that, if they are sincere about CIR they should find middleground with gop senators to solve that issue. Coming out in public and giving statements that deal is reached is nonsense when other members of the gang clearly not on the same line
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Originally Posted by
abcx13
My understanding was that this had to be done way before Thanksgiving before House Republicans start campaigning for mid-term elections and veer to the right...
The Thanksgiving bit seems to be an extrapolation on the reporter's part but the House will definitely have to vote before the fall IMHO if this is to have any hope. Hopefully once the Senate passes it, Obama can use that as a cudgel to get the House to move faster...
I feel the timeline is reasonable given the Memorial Day/Independence Day State Work Periods and the Summer recess. The House vote will be after the Senate vote in July and most likely after Labor Day. If the House wraps up work by October and we allow 4 weeks for a conference report-it takes us into November
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I found Rep. Trey Gowdy's views encouraging considering he leads the House Subcommittee on Immigration
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...ration-debate/
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Thanksgiving is very optimistic. I would be very happy with that timeline.
For last thanksgiving, we were praying for passage HR 3012. Not even in our wildest dreams, we hoped for CIR to pass by next thanksgiving.
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CleanSock
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...et/?hpt=hp_bn3
On a different note, why is it that small details on illegal immigrants pathway to citizenship (such as 10 years to get GC, 3 years to get citizenship, back taxes, hefty fine, english proficiency etc etc) are getting out in the media but none about legal immigration (taking dependents out of quota, STEM GCs etc)? I am starting to wonder if they are really working on improving legal immigration.
My theory for what it is worth is that the EB legal immigration part is the easiest part to resolve and there are probably no contentious issues there. Both Reps Labrador and Lofgren are in favor of eliminating country caps and will include that in any legislation. The Senate has been friendly territory to this and continues to be so with 24 co-sponsors for the I-squared Act which includes country cap removal. The concern in the House is that the same support which marked the introduction of HR 3012 is lacking with not much support this time around from Judiciary Committee members. Since it passed by a voice vote in committee the last time,it is tough to see if any of these members have changed their mind. Rep Goodlatte has not signed on as a cosponsor nor has previous chairman Rep.Lamar Smith. I still think country cap removal is a good bet if CIR gets that far.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...nts-89518.html
This is one less vote for passage-Some minds are going to be hard to change
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hey abcx13 and rupen86,
did you get any link showing what's in it for EB2 India in the CIR bill? all the links i read mentions mainly illegal immigrants and family visas.
Thanks!
Soumitra
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abcx13
The first link somewhat explains Rubio's remarks but I have yet to find a link which will do thorough analysis.
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Originally Posted by
iamdeb
hey abcx13 and rupen86,
did you get any link showing what's in it for EB2 India in the CIR bill? all the links i read mentions mainly illegal immigrants and family visas.
Thanks!
Soumitra
Posting the link from one of my earlier posts. I had to work hard to look into earlier posts :)
http://www.metrocorpcounsel.com/arti...es-future-hold
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Originally Posted by
iamdeb
hey abcx13 and rupen86,
did you get any link showing what's in it for EB2 India in the CIR bill? all the links i read mentions mainly illegal immigrants and family visas.
Thanks!
Soumitra
It's all speculation at this time but per country caps will go away for sure. Other potential items
- visa recapture
- dependents not counting towards quota
- separate STEM quota
- increased total GC numbers
- elimination of GC lottery
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NY/NY folks can get into some action at town hall in Liberty State Park..
https://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/gsk48t
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