That is the exact reason I call him an anti-immigrant. In high skilled immigration country of birth doesn't matter. Moreover I have been watching these Senator's for years now. I know what they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by isantem
That is the exact reason I call him an anti-immigrant. In high skilled immigration country of birth doesn't matter. Moreover I have been watching these Senator's for years now. I know what they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by isantem
To gcq & rupen
You may be right about Sen Reid
http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/20/ha...n-legislation/
Whether this is really possible or if he is just calling their bluff-time will tell
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Originally Posted by gs1968
Hi Gs, I always enjoy reading your’s & Rupen posts as I feel you both make constructive comments. After 3012 failed, I preferred to read rather than posting here and the other site. Well, sometimes, I couldn't resist myself to comment. I lost much of my hopes on passing any Immigration bill in this statuesque congress after 3012 duped. But the recent shift of policies of few key HARD CORE conservatives (Rand Paul /Eric Canter /Goodlatte), I am little exited to see the debates in coming months.
Harry Reid is my neighborhood state senator. My memories are still fresh on how he won last re-election (2010). He made lot of promises to Hispanics on Immigration to get re-elected. One of the major promise was Dream Act.. I think he will have lot of pressure from his own state of Hispanics to bring the bill to senate floor soon once the Gang 8 puts forward.
Boehner on House seemed to act on Immigration. I think he won’t bring any bill (house / senate version) to floor in next 2 months as there is more resistance in his own party.) Also, Goodlatte is looking to have more hearings on this. It will be interesting to see how this is going to be unfolded.
Republicans realized that without Immi Reform they can’t get into WH. That’s a good sign with the recent election. Though, I don’t like giving a Citizenship to illi… With the change in dynamics, I see legal immigration can only sail through by going with that group. Hope we will succeed this time.
Of course, these are all Politicians what they talk in front of camera is always / (at least 90% of the time) different from their actions. Hope I’ll be wrong this time.
Hi SaiBabaAug2010
Thanks for your comments although in this forum everybody makes clean,refreshing comments that make intelligent reading.
Regarding your comments about the GOP regaining the White House-here is an interesting take
http://www.businessinsider.com/impac...lection-2013-3
What happens in house is pretty much dependent on speaker Boehner. If he allows the legislation to come to floor, it will definitely pass with combined votes of Democrats and GOP. From house judiciary committee perspective I am hopeful for CIR passage. Traditionally Bob Goodlatte and Lamar Smith are against illegal immigration. After watching the testimony of Dr Wadhwa and Dr Aurora, I feel they are OK with illegal immigration component of CIR. This can happen only if there is a broader agreement in GOP to pass CIR.
Unlike anti-immigrants like Steve King, Grassley and Sessions, these lawmakers give consideration to what GOP wants to do.
Gs, You’re right, this forum is clean and also users respect each other’s view and make healthy comments. I should say kudos to Q.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
Thank you for the link. I am not convinced much with the Author analysis. Although, I have to agree to the fact that demographics are quickly changing in swing states. By 2020, I do not see none of the illegal’s getting voting rights with any of the proposals available as of now. Per WH plan, they would be eligible for GC after 8 years, assuming majority of them are going to fall in low skill EB category and even after Country cap removal, I do not see them getting GC itself by 2025.
As author mentioned in the article, GOP is taking a big gamble on this. In my view, by going with CIR they will at least benefit in near term elections.
Gcq, I’m fully on board with your last but one statement.
You’ve summarized what you put in with this statement.;)
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Originally Posted by gcq
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...239_story.html
Nice to see India singled out for abusing H1B again.
I don't see any such reference in the article. Please post responsibly for everybody's benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
It talks about doubling h1b visas and giving green cards to university students but it does not talk about other components of EB immigration. I hope, they will be there in the final bill. Without that, existing backlog of current EB system for those without US degree would worsen.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...n-rewrite.html
The middle of the article suggests several sticking points but then goes on to say " we are very,very close to a deal"
Not quite sure what to make of all this speculation
gs1968,Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
All showing carrots.. stick will come after Grassuncle does filibuster.. and then when it goes to congress. All drama...all these politicians already discussed together what to do.. If there is an executive order then that is a different issue altogether.. But for people like us Legal immigrants Nobody cares!... so all these immigration talks happening.. waste of time.. Nothing comprehensive is going to happen with the present US Fillibuster law!
On page 2:Quote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
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These critics say companies commonly use the visa to bring employees from India to work in the United States for up to three years, train them and then return them to India to do the same work, often for a U.S. firm buying the services from a contractor.
To immitime
Please stay positive till we have reason to feel otherwise although news articles full of contradictions like below do not help
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...0.html?hp=t2_3
Schumer says late spring or early summer while Raul Labrador says probably the end of the year. Schumer says we are 90% there while Rubio says there are still outstanding items which need answers.
Another article that tells that bill is on the horizon.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2927798.html
To rupen86
Both of us are spending too much of our precious time following these vague leads and should find a better pastime till June/July when the process is more visible. Everybody is quoting some aide speaking on "condition of anonymity" and twisting facts to meet their own agenda.
The following article is yet another example of the contradictions I mentioned in my previous post.Yesterday a link I posted seems to suggest some fast-tracking of the Bill but this one seems to mention "regular order" implying prolonged judiciary deliberations/hearings etc
http://washingtonexaminer.com/key-se...rticle/2524934
I am surprised that everybody is talking about the legalization of 11 million people as the easier part of the deal.This is a giant experiment in social engineering and will add new citizens to the USA to the magnitude of the State of Pennsylvania.The last paragraph in the article you quoted correctly mentions that opposition is just starting to form.
The other aspect I find surprisingly taken for granted is an almost complete Democratic embrace of the legislative proposals.A previous article in this thread earlier today mentioned Sens. Hirono & Warren objecting to FB elimination
It is going to take a lot of heavy lifting to get this through the Senate.The House is a totally different story
That would be a critique of the program itself as it is designed as opposed to the program being abused IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
Well stated !Quote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
I believe the reason that there is more support for legalization of 11m illegals is that everyone is trying to win latino votes. Democrats won't accept anything less than citizenship. That's how they will have access to future voters. Republicans may believe that they would also have access to that pool and existing pool if they support that but on the other hand, for EB immigration, the pool is not larger enough for political advantage. They would be doing that for economic reason and their obligation to businesses. Seems like, AFL and Chamber of Commerce have stopped talking and directly talking with senators. It needs to be seen who gets how much. But this approach does not look good for the bill. Either the union or business may not support the bill if they do not get what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ils-89198.html
Oh come on. :rolleyes: How come it only mentions Indians? If it's a loophole in the program why isn't everyone abusing it? Why is that Indian IT outsourcers take a disproportionate share of the visas?Quote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
(Rhetorical question. No need to answer.)
For the order of the news, this came first and Reid one. Reid can decide that he does not want to wait for the committee and instead go to the floor directly.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
daffodil daffodil..why can't you singQuote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
birds are singing with their little tiny beaks
daffodil daffodil why can't you sing
spring sprung, summer is almost near
before that please at least doodle woodle daffodil
instead of poodling Illegals give a stone to Legals!
To Immitime
Wow! we like that better-Shayari Aagayi!!!
To rupen86
Direct floor action is risky as it may not clear cloture. We focus too much on the 60 vote threshold but as I have mentioned before,cloture votes are a sign of caucus unity. It is one thing to vote against a Bill that has withstood intense committee scrutiny and duly reported but if it is felt that floor action is rushed without allowing for due diligence/deliberation in committee then such cloture votes usually fail
Actually abcx that particular sentence almost begs the question - why do we let those people go back to India and not give them green cards so that they can stay back here. I think whoever said it is indirectly suggesting that rather than saying that there is any abuse (which I don't deny always exist). But in this particular case the focus is diffferent. My 2 cents.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
immitime - LoL!! loved it.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
Q, Thanks for appreciation. thought will make the moment little lighter! :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by qesehmk
gs,Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
Thanks for appreciation.. it is like...
Main shayar toh nahin
Main shayar toh nahin
Magar CIR hasee
Jab se dekha maine tujhko
Mujhko shayari aa gayi !!! :-)