EB2 Predictions (Rather Calculations) - 2011

Hmm scary, cis missing files:

http://fcw.com/articles/2011/06/20/u...acy-risks.aspx

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Originally Posted by rahil1

But last year there were fewer applicants if you look from 2005april to 2005 nov there were less than 3k

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agreed, last year we had fewer applicants if you look from 2005april to 2005 nov there were less than 3k, but current FY we are having approx >13K extra SOFAD.
So approx each month we can accommodate 1100 extra application. And more thing to notice is there was no movement in first 2 quarter of current FY (Sep 2010 to Apr 2011).

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Originally Posted by leo07

Good one.

The way you determined that dates would move to 8/22/2007, by looking at spec's table(??) is agreeable.
Number of days moved in previous years, is a relatively unstable parameter to depend upon. Because the movement is based, at least on two high-level variables, X & & Y. X being the SOFAD and Y being the number of applications in that particular date range.

It's definitely encouraging to see a different perspective. Good Luck!

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so far in all the theories (methods) we had discuss on this form, X and Y are more or less assumptions. for quick reference I have copied Assumptions form first page of this form:
Assumptions:
0. VB provided correct info in terms of 50% reduction in eB1 demand.
1. USCIS Published data of current 485 backlog (dated 1st Oct 2010) was correct and includes all Emp based cases including dependents.
2. 2011 NVC inventory will be similar to 2010 NVC inventory. (since the latest we have is from last year).
3. USCIS doesn't waste any visas during 2011.
4. There is NO family spillover of visas from year 2010 into year 2011.
5. 30% people w PDs bet Jan-Jul 2007 missed the 2007 boat. (calculated from trackitt data) (not included but doesn't matter until after dates move into Jan 2007)
6. 3-4K EB3 convert to EB2 in 2011.
7. EB1 demand stays same as last year and EB1 clears its backlog
8. R485 at 100%
9. SYA at 37-50%
9. CP allocation factored in demand. So SOFAD is free of CP. From EB2 perspective assumed minimal even otherwise.

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Originally Posted by TeddyKoochu

Friends the movement by number of days is just statistics or information the real thing is how much was the SOFAD or how many cases were cleared. Number of days does not quite adequately represent this. This year we have moved through a very heavy density zone which is probably double density when compared to last year, so we may have moved far more in terms of absolute days last year but this year SOFAD is much higher even though the movement is less in terms of days. If number of day’s model is to be approved current then we must have huge BTM in September :). It may remind a lot of us about our college days, the last day before the exam was quite an important day of study when compared with all days in the semester / academic year :).

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I totally agree with you TK. I must mentioned that you have good insight on all theories so far we had discuss. The beauty of your analysis is you most of the time stick with the real DOS or USCIS release data.

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

Teddy

You are right. Our fundamental demand supply model stays in place. However I think this additional insight is also worthwhile data point because over time things tend to reverse to mean.

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I think all (or most of ) models we have discussed so far on this form should stay in place because none of them are proven even 50% accurate :)

Actualy every month Charles Oppenheim personally visit first 7 days to prediction forms and make sure none of our GC-Guru theory prove to be right, otherwise his job will be on risk and TeddyK/Spec/Nishanth/Leo07/etc would replace him (Charles Oppenheim) and from next visa bulletin somebody here will say "Of course, Q's source may enlighten us earlier on the release dates, and / or any trend in movement." :)

Good Luck everybody!

Completely agree with TK. Number of days is a result of SOFAD and 485 density. We have just passed through the absolutely highest 485 density ever - the early 2007 - that is why the number of days movement is lower even though we cleared the highest number of EB2IC visas ever. The good news is that the density now declines continuously (except for the unusual spike in 2010) - and the current data (2011) seems downright pre-2005 like.

In my view, the whole EB2IC crisis is a result of the fact that H1B limit was raised to 195K for a few years in Y2K and later without a corresponding increase in EB GC numbers. All these H1B people hit the EB GC market in a few years and there was no supply. Now that H1B has gone back to 65K (and lower - actual usage this year might not reach the limit), the economy is in shambles, there is competition for skilled labor from other countries, and the supplier countries are doing much better themselves, I am confident that the EB2IC backlog will revert to its early 2000 levels - a very manageable few months to a year backlog. We are unfortunate to live through the messy time in the middle, but as Q says, everything regresses to mean eventually - and I think people who are getting into the queue right now will have a much easier time than people getting in the line in 2006-2009.

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Originally Posted by TeddyKoochu

Friends the movement by number of days is just statistics or information the real thing is how much was the SOFAD or how many cases were cleared. Number of days does not quite adequately represent this. This year we have moved through a very heavy density zone which is probably double density when compared to last year, so we may have moved far more in terms of absolute days last year but this year SOFAD is much higher even though the movement is less in terms of days. If number of day’s model is to be approved current then we must have huge BTM in September :). It may remind a lot of us about our college days, the last day before the exam was quite an important day of study when compared with all days in the semester / academic year :).

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Originally Posted by imdeng

Completely agree with TK. Number of days is a result of SOFAD and 485 density. We have just passed through the absolutely highest 485 density ever - the early 2007 - that is why the number of days movement is lower even though we cleared the highest number of EB2IC visas ever. The good news is that the density now declines continuously (except for the unusual spike in 2010) - and the current data (2011) seems downright pre-2005 like.

In my view, the whole EB2IC crisis is a result of the fact that H1B limit was raised to 195K for a few years in Y2K and later without a corresponding increase in EB GC numbers. All these H1B people hit the EB GC market in a few years and there was no supply. Now that H1B has gone back to 65K (and lower - actual usage this year might not reach the limit), the economy is in shambles, there is competition for skilled labor from other countries, and the supplier countries are doing much better themselves, I am confident that the EB2IC backlog will revert to its early 2000 levels - a very manageable few months to a year backlog. We are unfortunate to live through the messy time in the middle, but as Q says, everything regresses to mean eventually - and I think people who are getting into the queue right now will have a much easier time than people getting in the line in 2006-2009.

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+1
That is my view too...
Hopefully CO is able to visualize this declining density and is able to move the dates relatively fast to build the inventory - give enough time to USCIS to adjudicate - and lastly not waste visas due to insufficient time !

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Originally Posted by imdeng

Completely agree with TK. Number of days is a result of SOFAD and 485 density. We have just passed through the absolutely highest 485 density ever - the early 2007 - that is why the number of days movement is lower even though we cleared the highest number of EB2IC visas ever. The good news is that the density now declines continuously (except for the unusual spike in 2010) - and the current data (2011) seems downright pre-2005 like.

In my view, the whole EB2IC crisis is a result of the fact that H1B limit was raised to 195K for a few years in Y2K and later without a corresponding increase in EB GC numbers. All these H1B people hit the EB GC market in a few years and there was no supply. Now that H1B has gone back to 65K (and lower - actual usage this year might not reach the limit), the economy is in shambles, there is competition for skilled labor from other countries, and the supplier countries are doing much better themselves, I am confident that the EB2IC backlog will revert to its early 2000 levels - a very manageable few months to a year backlog. We are unfortunate to live through the messy time in the middle, but as Q says, everything regresses to mean eventually - and I think people who are getting into the queue right now will have a much easier time than people getting in the line in 2006-2009.

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imdeng...

i may not agree with your point that EB2 is in crisis becoz of 195K H1B at some point of time. You remember till 2005 or so Eb2 was current mostly... also most of Y2K'rs filed in EB3 so EB3 can curse for that. Now it doesnt matter what numbers H1B are, everybody will start/started applying in EB2 through what ever means... The best bet to reduce this mess would be to take STEM graduates from the quota which will definitely almost make EB2 current...

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Originally Posted by soggadu

imdeng...

i may not agree with your point that EB2 is in crisis becoz of 195K H1B at some point of time. You remember till 2005 or so Eb2 was current mostly... also most of Y2K'rs filed in EB3 so EB3 can curse for that. Now it doesnt matter what numbers H1B are, everybody will start/started applying in EB2 through what ever means... The best bet to reduce this mess would be to take STEM graduates from the quota which will definitely almost make EB2 current...

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I vote for removing the dependents from being counted for visa numbers

Moved some posts to General Discussion http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showth...ion-Discussion

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Originally Posted by neospeed

I vote for removing the dependents from being counted for visa numbers

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I dont understand that logic.. then are we looking at same SSN for the whole family? When u get 2 Alien numbers... U use 2 GC's right.... I might make some angry on this but i dont understand how it is possible... yes, they can for documentation purpose issue different A numbers but have to count for a single umbrella GC...but doesnt sound logical....as they might be separated, divorced, go back to their country and all...

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Originally Posted by soggadu

I dont understand that logic.. then are we looking at same SSN for the whole family? When u get 2 Alien numbers... U use 2 GC's right.... I might make some angry on this but i dont understand how it is possible... yes, they can for documentation purpose issue different A numbers but have to count for a single umbrella GC...but doesnt sound logical....as they might be separated, divorced, go back to their country and all...

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A # is not visa number. You get that even on OPT EAD.

I see where u r coming from. To solve that, they could simply devise a schema where there is a main visa number : xyz-n, where xyz counts for the allocation, while n from 1 to m, m is a +ve integer, denotes beneficiaries under that allocation.

As far as divorce etc goes, ppl marry citizen and get divorced after 5 years, would they deport him? My friends parents are citizens but they live in India on PIO card. So what.

Technalities like this can be solved a number of ways if there is a will in policymakers.

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Originally Posted by soggadu

I dont understand that logic.. then are we looking at same SSN for the whole family? When u get 2 Alien numbers... U use 2 GC's right.... I might make some angry on this but i dont understand how it is possible... yes, they can for documentation purpose issue different A numbers but have to count for a single umbrella GC...but doesnt sound logical....as they might be separated, divorced, go back to their country and all...

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well how are they doing this with h-4?. they need to come up with similar solution. This is the one way to sneak in some visa numbers without getting much attention to this issue.

I don't think exception for stem etc, go thru becos of opposition from IEEE etc.

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Originally Posted by nishant2200

A # is not visa number. You get that even on OPT EAD.

I see where u r coming from. To solve that, they could simply devise a schema where there is a main visa number : xyz-n, where xyz counts for the allocation, while n from 1 to m, m is a +ve integer, denotes beneficiaries under that allocation.

As far as divorce etc goes, ppl marry citizen and get divorced after 5 years, would they deport him?

Technalities like this can be solved a number of ways if there is a will in policymakers.

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Divorcies dont get deported but they do have a file of their own rather than under an umbrella as being suggested... this is just an example i am using ...

Also, the solution u mentioned is a complex one when it needs to get political approval... IMHO there are other ways than not counting dependents as once they get GC no one is depended any more... The one i recently heard and like is Staple Visa... Degree ke liye aavoo GC pavoo... No H1/L1 ... people spend on degrees, US retains them... no brain drain... but i am really not 100% on this as everybody should get an oppurtunity to come into this country... but there should be a mid way... my 2 cents...discussion overr....

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Originally Posted by neospeed

well how are they doing this with h-4?. they need to come up with similar solution.

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H4 is just like a sit at home visa neo.... they are not eligible for anything which use govt funds... but GC people are...

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Originally Posted by soggadu

I dont understand that logic.. then are we looking at same SSN for the whole family? When u get 2 Alien numbers... U use 2 GC's right.... I might make some angry on this but i dont understand how it is possible... yes, they can for documentation purpose issue different A numbers but have to count for a single umbrella GC...but doesnt sound logical....

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soggadu,

I think you misunderstand how it would work.

Everything would be the same as now - individual A# etc.

The only difference would be that only the Primary applicant visa would be counted against the allocation. The 3 visas received by the Dependents would not, even though they were still issued.

Presently, taking a family of four, they consume 4 visas, all of which are counted against the overall numerical limit of 140k and any other limit due to Preference Category or Country.

If Dependents are not counted against the allocation, only one visa (the Primary applicant) would be used from the limited numbers.

So, if we say the average numbers of Dependents per primary is 1.25, then 140k visas effectively becomes 140 * 2.25 = 315k even though only 140k are still being used.

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Originally Posted by soggadu

H4 is just like a sit at home visa neo.... they are not eligible for anything which use govt funds... but GC people are...

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Lol, is there a rule for H-4 needs to work once H-4 gets a GC?

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Originally Posted by soggadu

H4 is just like a sit at home visa neo.... they are not eligible for anything which use govt funds... but GC people are...

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There is an internal memo that march 2012 on, H4 because primary is on AC21 caused H extension, would get EAD.

I understand spec...but where are those numbers accounted? can they have an un accounted category?... there is always a category when they issue GC from lottery to family... where do the dependents fit in? should they be charged with family? Lot of questions arise with this...

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Originally Posted by nishant2200

There is an internal memo that march 2012 on, H4 because primary is on AC21 caused H extension, would get EAD.

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H4 has always been able to get EAD once they apply for AOS right and somebody is on AC21 because s/he(primary) has already applied for AOS right... am i missing something...

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Originally Posted by Kanmani

Not clear Nishant
Pls explain

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Recently there was a report saying, with H1b extension H4 will be eligilbe for EAD (starting in Q2 2012)

There was a news while ago that H4 can get EAD where H1b is on AC21 , which means are on H1b ext beyond 6th year based on pending labor more than 365 days , approved labor and/ or approved I 140 and who does not have got chance to apply for I 485 because of retrogression. It can't be done through just internal memo but it has to go through rule making process where uscis , dhs or dos will publish rule for comment for 90 days and after that they can send out internal memo to all officer to approve such a request and also modify EAD form to accommodate such category.

Just to make it clear in past pre filling I 485 without date being current was on rule making agenda for 2 years and never make through finally DHS took it off.

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Originally Posted by bieber

Recently there was a report saying, with H1b extension H4 will be eligilbe for EAD (starting in Q2 2012)

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awesomooraama... is it really true and happening thing? can you please confirm...Q2 bole toh... from 2012 Jan ?

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Originally Posted by neospeed

I vote for removing the dependents from being counted for visa numbers

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I heard dependents from Diversity lottery are not counted towards the quota.
All controlled movements and restrictive policies are only for EB2 and EB3.

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Originally Posted by gc_usa

There was a news while ago that H4 can get EAD where H1b is on AC21 , which means are on H1b ext beyond 6th year based on pending labor more than 365 days , approved labor and/ or approved I 140 and who does not have got chance to apply for I 485 because of retrogression. It can't be done through just internal memo but it has to go through rule making process where uscis , dhs or dos will publish rule for comment for 90 days and after that they can send out internal memo to all officer to approve such a request and also modify EAD form to accommodate such category.

Just to make it clear in past pre filling I 485 without date being current was on rule making agenda for 2 years and never make through finally DHS took it off.

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No. The memo stated that EAD will be given to dependents of primary who has filed 485 but dependents haven't. One case will be primary applying 485 when single and dates retgrogress, when he gets married he is unable to file 485for his wife as priority date is not current. So such dependents will be given EAD

come on now...what did the poor H1B holder do to not deserve EAD?
EAD for spouse and not for the primary applicant:( Can you please point me to source, if you don't mind.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by bieber

Recently there was a report saying, with H1b extension H4 will be eligilbe for EAD (starting in Q2 2012)

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Originally Posted by soggadu

I understand spec...but where are those numbers accounted? can they have an un accounted category?... there is always a category when they issue GC from lottery to family... where do the dependents fit in? should they be charged with family? Lot of questions arise with this...

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There are already classes that are not subject to numerical limitations :

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INA 201(b)(1) Aliens Not Subject to Direct Numerical Limitations. - Aliens described in this subsection, who are not subject to the worldwide levels or numerical limitations of subsection (a), are as follows:

(1) (A) Special immigrants described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 101(a)(27) .

(B) Aliens who are admitted under section 207 or whose status is adjusted under section 209 .

(C) Aliens whose status is adjusted to permanent residence under section 210 , or 245A .

(D) Aliens whose removal is canceled under section 240A(a) .

(E) Aliens provided permanent resident status under section 249 .

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All that is needed is to add Dependents of EB cases to that list.

In fact, this is provided for in Zoe Lofgren's H.R.2161 Bill which says :

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(b) Spouses and Minor Children- Section 201(b)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(b)(1)), as amended by this Act, is further amended by adding at the end the following:

`(G) Aliens who are the spouse or child of an alien admitted as an employment-based immigrant under section 203(b).'.

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In case you are wondering, (F) would exempt STEM graduates with a Masters or Higher from designated Institutions as well as Outstanding Professors and Researchers (EB1B).

It is just a matter of who gets counted against the limited numbers.

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Originally Posted by leo07

come on now...what did the poor H1B holder do to not deserve EAD?
EAD for spouse and not for the primary applicant:( Can you please point me to source, if you don't mind.

Thanks!

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yes, I was thinking the same thing..good point Leo! it doesn't sound fair...

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Originally Posted by leo07

come on now...what did the poor H1B holder do to not deserve EAD?
EAD for spouse and not for the primary applicant:( Can you please point me to source, if you don't mind.

Thanks!

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Ha ha Ha.Poor H1B is a slave :-)

My guess is they are not talking about I485 EAD, they are talking about working authorization (EAD) , something like the spouse of L1B visa holder get. This EAD is not related with GC.
I485 EAD will only be given after filing I485.

Hmm...now i agree with that spec... thanks for letting me know...it's really great you do so much research before posting...increases the value...

on other note... i am a changed man now....eureka eureka....

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Originally Posted by donvar

I heard dependents from Diversity lottery are not counted towards the quota.
All controlled movements and restrictive policies are only for EB2 and EB3.

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donvar,

Having looked at the yearly statistics, that appears to be a baseless rumour.

FY2010
Principal ----- 27,383
Dependent -- 22,380
Total ------- 49,763

FY2009
Principal ----- 26,243
Dependent -- 21,636
Total ------- 47,879

etc

Source DHS Yearbook 2009 and 2010

That was v.quick and informative.

and...you are from commonwealth:)

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Originally Posted by Spectator

donvar,

Having looked at the yearly statistics, that appears to be a baseless rumour.

FY2010
Principal ----- 27,383
Dependent -- 22,380
Total ------- 49,763

FY2009
Principal ----- 26,243
Dependent -- 21,636
Total ------- 47,879

etc

Source DHS Yearbook 2009 and 2010

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Originally Posted by Spectator

donvar,

Having looked at the yearly statistics, that appears to be a baseless rumour.

FY2010
Principal ----- 27,383
Dependent -- 22,380
Total ------- 49,763

FY2009
Principal ----- 26,243
Dependent -- 21,636
Total ------- 47,879

etc

Source DHS Yearbook 2009 and 2010

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You are correct. I looked again and got hold of a USCIS briefing.

QUESTION: So on that question – so everyone, including the spouse and children are
included in the 50,000?
MR. WILCOCK: Yes, yes. They’re not over and above the 50,000. The 50,000 is
total diversity visa recipients, be they the principal applicant or the spouse or
children. Yeah.

Source : http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=33266

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Originally Posted by donvar

Ha ha Ha.Poor H1B is a slave :-)

My guess is they are not talking about I485 EAD, they are talking about working authorization (EAD) , something like the spouse of L1B visa holder get. This EAD is not related with GC.
I485 EAD will only be given after filing I485.

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The memo stated that EAD will be given to dependents of primary who has filed 485 but dependents haven't. One case will be primary applying 485 when single and dates retgrogress, when he gets married he is unable to file 485for his wife as priority date is not current. So such dependents will be given EAD

Hello Guys - I just looked at Trackitt and some one with id "skgctrack" who has PD 08 Apr 2007 Eb2I got approved. This is a good news. we are seeing approval right of the bat.

Hello people,

I came across this blog couple of weeks back while searching for some more advanced information regarding priority dates. And I must tell you, I have been following it religiously from that point. In fact, I check this blog every 1-2 hours every day. It is becoming kind of an addiction now. The gurus and many other have been doing an amazing job churning out these difficult calculations and logically predicting the PDs. To be honest, I suck at Math and Statistics. I am a General Internist Physician working in a decent size hospital in a mid-size town and doing these calculations is not my cup of tea. But I truly appreciate the effort from all of you to provide more clarity about the process. Many thanks to those who have become current or have obtained their GCs but still extending their helping hands.

I am also a part of the EB2 mess. The only difference is that my PD is in 2011 unlike some of you have who have their PDs in 2007 and 2008. No hospital files for our green card during our 3 years of post-graduation training (MD) since they know we are going to leave once our training is over. So we always end up wasting 3 years of H1B. Unfortunately, I did my post-graduation from a small community hospital and I don't meet criteria for EB1A or EB1B since I didn't find a good opportunity to do research and publications. My attorney advised me not to file for EB2NIW saying that the applications are complex and it takes a long time these days to approve those applications. Also, there is no significant advantage over regular EB2 either except LC requirement is waived since the PDs are retrogressed.

I don't want to sound too pessimistic in my first post but I believe the waiting times for people in EB2IC remain terrible and will remain terrible (EB3 is out of question obviously with even longer wait times) unless the Congress brings some kind of legislation to recapture the unused visa numbers from previous years, remove the country limit or stop counting dependents on the available visa numbers. Just my 2 cents on this.

Thanks again for all the effort people are putting in. Good luck to those who are waiting to be current and congrats to those who are about to be current and those who have been greened.

Regards.

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Originally Posted by Jonty Rhodes

Hello people,

There are, in general, two ways to predict the future. For example, you can use horoscopes, tea leaves, tarot cards, crystal ball, and so forth. Collectively, these are known as the “nutty methods.” Or you can put well-researched facts into sophisticated computer models, more commonly referred to as “a complete waste of time.” While all these approaches have their advantages, I find it’s a lot easier and economical to simply make stuff up.

Regards.

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The later is called 'Nerdy' method :-)! Welcome to the forum!!!

From April 15th 2007 to August 15th 2007, how many PWMB are we expecting.

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Originally Posted by leo07

come on now...what did the poor H1B holder do to not deserve EAD?
EAD for spouse and not for the primary applicant:( Can you please point me to source, if you don't mind.

Thanks!

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leo, it's more like some J1 dependent and L1 dependent where spouce of non-imigrant visa holder can work, it's restricted only for h1.
I will try to find source, but it was from Q&A session from CIS

it does not sound fair....but i feel atleast this law gives little relief(50%) atleast as there spouses can get EAD's and need not go through this H1b tensions....what i mean is they also can work like the L2 visa....that is v good move if this is made.... :)

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Originally Posted by Monica12

yes, I was thinking the same thing..good point Leo! it doesn't sound fair...

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Originally Posted by nishant2200

From April 15th 2007 to August 15th 2007, how many PWMB are we expecting.

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nishant,

Conservatively, I think probably 3.5 to 4k for EB2-IC. I don't expect those to be approved this year, even if the COD moves that far.

Others may disagree.

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Originally Posted by bieber

leo, it's more like some J1 dependent and L1 dependent where spouce of non-imigrant visa holder can work, it's restricted only for h1.
I will try to find source, but it was from Q&A session from CIS

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It is not for all h1bs. It's only for h1b's who filed their aid and dependents didn' t

Welcome to the form.....well if it helps....my priority date is also in feb 2011...my guess is we can hope our date may be current in next 4-5 years, if get the SOFAD every year...

If some miracle happens and these congressmen do pass the bill... where they will use the unused visa, remove spouses from counting, yes we can be current in 2 years.....

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Originally Posted by Jonty Rhodes

Hello people,

I came across this blog couple of weeks back while searching for some more advanced information regarding priority dates. And I must tell you, I have been following it religiously from that point. In fact, I check this blog every 1-2 hours every day. It is becoming kind of an addiction now. The gurus and many other have been doing an amazing job churning out these difficult calculations and logically predicting the PDs. To be honest, I suck at Math and Statistics. I am a General Internist Physician working in a decent size hospital in a mid-size town and doing these calculations is not my cup of tea. But I truly appreciate the effort from all of you to provide more clarity about the process. Many thanks to those who have become current or have obtained their GCs but still extending their helping hands.

I am also a part of the EB2 mess. The only difference is that my PD is in 2011 unlike some of you have who have their PDs in 2007 and 2008. No hospital files for our green card during our 3 years of post-graduation training (MD) since they know we are going to leave once our training is over. So we always end up wasting 3 years of H1B. Unfortunately, I did my post-graduation from a small community hospital and I don't meet criteria for EB1A or EB1B since I didn't find a good opportunity to do research and publications. My attorney advised me not to file for EB2NIW saying that the applications are complex and it takes a long time these days to approve those applications. Also, there is no significant advantage over regular EB2 either except LC requirement is waived since the PDs are retrogressed.

I don't want to sound too pessimistic in my first post but I believe the waiting times for people in EB2IC remain terrible and will remain terrible (EB3 is out of question obviously with even longer wait times) unless the Congress brings some kind of legislation to recapture the unused visa numbers from previous years, remove the country limit or stop counting dependents on the available visa numbers. Just my 2 cents on this.

Thanks again for all the effort people are putting in. Good luck to those who are waiting to be current and congrats to those who are about to be current and those who have been greened.

Regards.

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