http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...reform-package
"...and said they hoped to unveil a proposal by year’s end."
"But neither would give a timeline on when the bill would be released."
How did next week become year-end?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...reform-package
"...and said they hoped to unveil a proposal by year’s end."
"But neither would give a timeline on when the bill would be released."
How did next week become year-end?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/...g-leagues.html
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...esident-obama/ - Finally guesses at a vote count - 70 in the Senate.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...tion-overhaul/
Re the post above, I think he's just saying that CIR has to be done this year.
I will echo this and add that while posting links is useful, posting your own 2 cents on the news is much more valuable. Nowadays it is so easy to find immigration related news ... anybody can easily create a google news feed.
But if they get your 2 cents on why this news matters and what we should take away from this - that is really the value add. So please think about it in the interest of the readers.
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Originally Posted by gs1968
I agree. It is like addiction. If people come back here around August, they would have lost lot of news but it would not matter because those news won't make a difference in their life. In August, people might still be discussing about bill but may be different things. It might help to read less about this and just check occasionally. I would be hard to do that because as I said it is addiction.Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
Water Water everywhere nor a little drop to drink -----this is the condition of Legal immigrants.Quote:
Originally Posted by rupen86
See CNN report today about UN-documented immigrants.... don't say Illegal huh...
As someone said.. "Politics is the last game of a scoundrel"
http://youtu.be/dnWZhRrvwGU
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/op...-visas.html?hp
reader comments are not friendly as usual
Different take on Rubio's position.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ration-reform/
Things to watch for in immigration debate.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ate-89728.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...f35_story.html
We're now talking two weeks from now apparently.
Interesting thing to note here is that, all 8 will oppose amendments to the core things. Seems like a right strategy. It seems like, there is lot left to be done. Not just drafting but actual negotiations are also happening in parallel. Also, it says, bill would be on the senate floor after the memorial weekend which means committee would have one full month or more than that. That does not align with what Leahy was suggesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
Tell him what it contains so that he can let NumbersUSA campaign against it right away !
http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/05/senate-judiciary-republicans-call-for-immigration-reform-transparency-from-gang-of-8-republicans/
I do not know how much difference it is going to make if they know one week in advance. I do not know how Rubio got permission to brief them ahead of unveiling the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by gcq
Let the fun & games begin!
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/2...ll-by-thursday
Good news :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...mains-unclear/
And then there's this...
To abcx13,rupen86,immitime & others
Given the amount of time we are spending on this legislation everyday-we should form our own Gang of Eight and send our own legislative proposals to the Senators!!
Good one :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
This is now starting to resemble the usual omnibus, special-interest driven,pork-laden drivel that the Senate has so become used to passing in order to get to the 60 vote threshold
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...7.html?hp=t3_3
Suddenly everything is included-Irish E-3,Polish visa waiver,H-1B,California farm workers,Vermont Dairy farmers.New York Apple growers,Florida cruise ship employees,Chicago construction workers etc, etc!!
However this line is providing some hope-elimination of country-cap maybe or is it referring to STEM visas/H-1B?
" It would affect immigration from countries ranging from Mexico to India and industries ranging from biotech firms to restaurants"
30% high tech visas for every 70% high tech Americans employed? Are they planning to bring the limit down to 50k (30k for all and 20k for masters students)? If this is what is in store for high skilled people then I would want it to fail!
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Originally Posted by gs1968
I think they are talking about companies having 70% gc/citizens and no more than 30% h1bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleanSock
Durbin is a union guy. That makes him and Grassley ( an anti-immigrant) comrades when it comes to H1B and high skilled immigration. I doubt durbin's proposal will clear house or senate. He wants Irish special visa so Irish can find employment in US and hopefully reduce the bar for Irish, but restrict H1B, which is for high skilled labor.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleanSock
To gcq
From abcx13's link above
"Republicans are also mulling over hefty restrictions on companies that hire higher-skilled workers. An employer that hires an H-1B worker would need to certify they haven’t fired anyone 90 days before or after having that employee work at the site — a method to ensure companies aren’t firing U.S. workers and replacing them with foreign workers. Some GOP lawmakers could introduce a bill containing this language in coming weeks, several sources familiar with negotiations said."
H-1B restrictions are being strongly considered in both chambers and Sen.Grassley has already introduced a stand-alone Bill and House members are going to do the same
The article seems to be stating that there are disagreements on low skill visa and agriculture issue has not been resolved. It also talks about H1B restrictions. And there might be a separate bill for that. I do not know what will come out of house gang of 8 then. Looks like it will only include items that are agreed upon and separate bills for not agreed items. So, it won't be comprehensive bill that will come out of gang of 8 in house.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
Someone posted this link on trackitt. Finally one article which talks only about Legal Immigration. Points discussed in this article are 1) Higher wages for H1B workers 2) Higher filing fees for companies who have more than 30% H1B employees 3) Unlimited green cards to STEM graduates from US 4) Potential increase in H1B cap to 100,000.
But not everything is looking good. Some senators are against a lot of points mentioned in the article.
http://m.washingtonpost.com/politics...695_story.html
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Originally Posted by rupen86
I am not against provision 2 assuming the percentages (for H1Bs as % of total employees) are reasonable before the higher fees/H1B ineligibility kick in and there's a minimum no. of employees cut off so as to avoid penalizing a 2 person immigrant start-up. The Indian IT outsourcers were clearly not the intended beneficiaries of the H1B program. That is labor cost arbitrage - plain and simple.
Anyway, I've never seen any of the Indian IT companies actually contribute lobbying dollars to one of these immigration bills (L1s and H1Bs seem to work just fine for them since it's not in their interest to get you a GC anyway). It's always the Google, MSFT and Intel types who lobby and they will have no problem clearing this threshold so I don't see what the kerfuffle is all about. Of course, NASSCOM will whine and bitch but who cares about them...
Interestingly, there has been no talk about a startup visa either - which I think would be a lot more beneficial to the economy. Even if it's slightly easier to immigrate unlimited STEM GC (hopefully they'll restrict the univs it applies to) you'll still leave out guys like Steve Jobs who don't have a STEM degree. So a startup visa is still required I think.
This I think is a stupid restriction. So if you fire an US Citizen EE who doesn't know Ohm's Law and want to hire a German EE who designed the electronics on a space probe, you can't?Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
Ugh. If only Congress could get their head out of their behinds and implement a points-based system like every other developed country...
The article talks about increase in H1B and STEM green cards but silent on other things like Recapture, Not counting dependents and removing per country quota which is disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleanSock
The article talks about increase in H1B and STEM green cards but silent on other things like Recapture, Not counting dependents and removing per country quota which is disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleanSock
CIR will not help EB. Its gonna create more mess for EB.Quote:
Originally Posted by rupen86
STEM may reduce some backlog, but even STEM is controversial if it is included part of EB - For Instance, MBA degree is not part of STEM but Multi-national managers are part of EB - RIDICULOUS!
gs1968,Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968
Please remember the quote in the above article.
Sessions said, “I guess he wasn’t ready. They didn’t seem to be interested in doing that,” he told reporters. “I didn’t get the impression there was any interest to get that done today [among the gang of eight]. The impression I got was that they hoped to be able to do it next week.”
The problem is this.. nobody is really interested to give amnesty to 11 million people.. they last done an amnesty around 1985-86.. within 28 years 11million illegal... so not to have much expectation from CIR.
Now the President can do an executive order.. as a politician he may do it only just before 2014. until that he will chant bipartisan mantra!.. This is a political show off.. just for fun we can see the news.. that is it. Again I will be surprised if anything in the Executive Order for Legal immigrants!. We have been beaten again and again by all these people . AILA, Senators, WH, USCIS, the so called chappus **. I am not pessimistic. But to accept the truth it takes long long time.. only experience will tell the taste of Sugar.
Folks they are showing carrots.. next is going to be stick after an year of debate, after that the famous words of 'WE TRIED BUT BECAUSE OF SO AND SO IT NEVER EVER HAPPENED" WE TRIED AND executive order for illegals will give them votes and winning time. Still We Legals will be waiting.. waiting and waiting.......
Thanks for sharing the link. This is significant news!Quote:
Originally Posted by idiotic
I read this last night and I think its great. But there are people that already have heartburn about the fact that theres only one hearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by seahawks2012
I dont think anyone in the political circles wants amnesty but everyone seems to be getting on board with the "path to citizenship" concept. The reason there's not a lot of press about green cards is that there seems to be consensus among what to do about green cards. There's a lot of debate and politicking in the illegal immigration space including the 40% of people who overstay their visas.Quote:
Originally Posted by immitime
As written its a bullshit bill and will never pass. There's a valid concern that US citizens are replaced with foreigners. I do think your example is a little extreme though.You cannot fire somone without cause even if someone "better" comes along (your rocket scientist). There better be a damn good reason otherwise the company will be sued. I don't think companies do this in general - atleast most mid to large companies. I think this legislation is aimed towards smaller businesses especially privately owned companies where they try to get a wage arbitrage using foreigners.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcx13
BTW when I say "you" I dont mean you personally.
Gun control Bill cloture invoked and so no Senate action till Monday unless items of unanimous consent.
This clears the stage for possible CIR announcement this afternoon (I Hope!!)
The senate is in recess between 1230 to 230 with no activity and this could be the ideal time