So true Nishant, I feel the same way !
May the force aka CO be with us :) :)
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Q, you are right.
3M you are really funny!! You cracked me big with these two ...
Anyway .... listen guys here is some interesting information to support decent september movement.
The chinese it seems have pretty credible sources .... so thanks to them all. Take a look at these two pages.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/EB23/31370131.html
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/EB23/31369099.html
Basically they are saying that 19K or so is left over for the entire EB category. It implies 5K is left for EB1, EB3, EB2 each and 3-4K for EB4. So if conservatively if you take 1K from EB5, 2K from EB1 and 2K from EB2... there is your 5K for Sept bulletin which is equivalent to more than 6 weeks of movement!!
The info looks credible and thanks again to our friends on the other side of the hill.
Q,
Won't another 5K of spillovers move the EB2-I/C dates to end of June or even 1st week of July. The # of pending visas for EB2-I for after 15th April to end of June (assuming 50% of April pending numbers are after 15th April) is 3047 and the same for EB2-C is 1370. So, overall pending EB2-I/C #'s from mid-April to end of June is 4417 and another 5K spillovers (if available) might push dates into 1st week of July.
I think you should use more appropriate language in your post #3958 on page 159. we are all foreigners and should respect each other.
To put things in perspective, the chinese (especially EB3) have been pissed off for a while that EB india takes away most of the spillover (ratio of 3:1 or 5:1 or 6:1 depending on which analysis you look at). Their main focus of all their analysis is to add to their constant campaign to push DoS/USCIS not to allott spillover numbers based on PD. But then I wonder what else could visa numbers be based on.
Anyway, I have followed that forum for a while and their attitude towards EB-India is belligerent at best. Their goal is for EB-India to NOT receive ANY spillover visas until EB-China backlog is eliminated. The same was one of the points in their failed lawsuit. And I of course find that idea ridiculous.
Guys, Please let's not start any kind of war here. We are all going through this painful process together and should help each other in any way we can...
We will benefit if we work together on this and will not gain anything by attacking each other.
Your co-operation is highly appreciated.
PEACE !!!!!! :) :) :)
Guys,
What does this mean? Does it mean my case has been approved?
Card/ Document Production
"On July 14, 2011, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283."
Spec,
That may be true for the monthly demand data used for VB cutt-off dates.
Looking at i140 receipts(EB1/EB2-NIW) data is telling me it is not the case for i485 inventory.
All of us came here to look for a better life. Both Indian and Chinese folks have the same goal. We want to have GC to travel freely and change job easily. There is not much difference between an Indian and a Chinese immigrant.
I wish all of our Indian and Chinese folks can get GC as soon as possible. I feel sad when I read some posts that EB2/EB3 applicants can not see their families because of the GC issue. It's inhumane. We have missed too many opportunities to have reunions with our families back home.
No matter you are an Indian guy or a Chinese guy, I wish you get your GC and spend more time with parents back home. That's my final and best wish to all our friends here.
qblogfan,
I too hope you will not be abandoning us. I like your contributions and personally value the different perspective you bring to the discussion.
I am sure no offence was intended.
On a lighter note - Google Translate or any other similar service are absolutely crap (if you'll excuse my French) at translating Chinese into plain English!
Leo,
At the moment, that is what concerns me as well. The Google Translation says:
That is a bit ambiguous. It can be taken to mean 121k as of 13 July, 2011 or it could be the figure as at the end of July.Quote:
Sender: NIUNATIONAL (NIU), the letter area: EB23
Title: NIU government relations group to obtain the approval letter stand progress data: BBS Unnamed Space Station (Thu Jul 14 11:47:42 2011, U.S. East)
Government Relations Group ERIC JI through FOIA channels have access to employment-based immigration approval of FY 2011 data, in the first half ended April 30, approved a total payment of employment-based immigration quota of 52,475 a green card. Oppenheimer also public relations group of volunteers and the communication, as yesterday informed career has approved a quota of 121,000 green cards.
NIU volunteers will be on data and analysis obtained from the first half of 2011 FOIA monthly approval data for further analysis, looking forward to their follow-up discussion and analysis
Since 14 July, 2011 post dates the August VB date of July 11, 2011, it is also possible that it includes visas allocated to August, but not actually used yet, since USCIS have not made the final approval.
Without more explanation, I can't decide what the figures mean.
Subsequent discussion in the thread seems to confirm equal confusion and I did not see a definitive answer. There were plenty of posts where they were discussing 19-20k over 2 months - in fact that seemed the general consensus.
The second thread seems to start with the presumption that the full 19k are available in September, but that seems to be an assumption, rather than fact.
The first link says the following:
"19k could be for September. please get excited. he (inside connection in "0" aka USCIS office? ) says that in recent months, every month USCIS approves a few k more. Now we need to see how much is approved for July and August. The rest is for September.
The key data in the second link are:
"52,475 GC has been allocated by April 30th (CP not included)
121,000 EB GC is approved by July 13th"
BTW, wanted to say Hi to all. I have just registered today. It is a great forum.
myfr66 appreciate your help. Welcome to the forum!
Somebody said to me that 121K is through August. That's why I mentioned 19K for september. 121K through august is believable because first half only allocated 52K. (although first half ended on Mar 31st rather than Apr 30th!!). At 52K for 6 months, 78K would be consumed in 9 months leaving 62K for Q3. If you take a third in each month then that gives you approx 20K. So 19K for September is in my opinion more logical.
The reason why USCIS probably slowed down movement in August is probably to ensure that PWMBs don't file now. Probably USCIS wants to defer those case to 2012. Another piece of the same "THEORY" is that by making a small movement in August and having large visas available, they can justify a huge movement in September. But this one is just a theory. I have nothing to back it up.
The problem is the ambiguity of the statements. Without input from the person who actually talked to CO, It is probably unresolvable.
Having slept on it, I think the more conservative interpretation is more likely.
There is ambiguity even about the 52,475. In one breath it says the first half of the year, but then say it is to 30 April, which is 7 months.
A low amount is not inconsistent. In that period, EB1 had low demand and no spillover had been allocated. Since then, to the end of July, a large amount of spillover has been released, so a big acceleration might be expected.
After 10 months, we would expect a figure of 122k [((9 * 9) + (19 / 3))% * 140], so 121k is about the correct figure to the end of July.
19k for 2 months is potentially not a huge amount to cover the EB1-EB5 normal run rate, so it would explain the relatively low amount of spillover released in the August VB. We have already surmised that 2.6k has been released for spillover in the August VB, so that leaves 16.4k to cover that normal run rate in August/September and any additional spillover in September.
Any final amount can be released after observing actual demand.
I don't think it alters the numbers we were talking about before the news.
I think it is something we will not get unanimous agreement upon and only the September VB can resolve it.
Until then, I will refrain from further comment on these figures.
Q!!
So, Will it move till End of 2007 in Sep Bulletin?
Everybody's hopes are are raising again. We need little of this after disappointed last week. After seeing all the calculation i personally feel that it really difficult to predict as there are many assumptions.
example: 2 months ago i thought 3-4 of my friends where telling that they already started porting process, but now some how they are asking me if there are chances of eb3I becoming current. Similary EB1 is in the same stage as they are not accepting everybody and we are not certain if investment visas spill over will be 5k or 8k ( huge difference now as July has over 3k pending).
Out of all these Odds, one should appreciate Q, Veni,Spec, Teddy( and also qblogfan for bringing some news from our counterparts) for calculating almost right numbers. Let us hope there me atleast 3k to 5k number spill overs.
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Its disheartining to listen when one says i am in virtual Jail ( My parents visa got rejected twice with out any reason couple of months back). I sincerely wish dates move to atleast 2009 and people get chance to file their I-485 and get chance to go to India/China.
I dont know my friend. Based on August Bulletin I would;ve said no. Based on the new information about what's used and left I feel decently optimistic.
In terms of SFM (sustainable forward movement) - Dec 2007 is just not possible. In terms of BTM yes its possible. But I can't say with any confidence how much BTM if any at all will DoS undertake and when.