Bills, Rules & Politics

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

Of everything you wrote Idli this sentence puzzled me. You guys in different places - physically and GC journey wise?

On another note - I am currently watching Roussevelts on NetFlix. I always admired FDR. But because of this docuseries now I have come to greatly admire Teddy Roussevelt too. One of his advisors once asked him how come some his views were not strictly constitutionalist. On that Teddy said, "Constitution is there to serve people. Not the other way around."

I feel the same way about all existing laws around immigration or even the constitution itself. The principle of non-discrimination and equality is bigger than any law on the books or the constitution itself. And hence you should trust America's ability to be fair. Accordingly in addition to the current efforts, backlogged immigrants should also try to fight the immigration battle in the courts and in the court of public opinion based on principle of non-discrimination and equal opportunity.

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Q, you have mentioned many times about fighting this battle in the courts but one thing that I fail to understand is that how can you win this in court? There is a law that Congress made. The system is working as per the law. Right now there is a backlog for certain countries because there is more demand than supply from those countries. However that doesn't mean that the law is not doing its job.

I am not arguing in favor of the law of country caps. But whether I like the law or not, it is still the law and the system is following that law and working according to it.

The job of the court is to interpret laws and not change them or make new laws. That is the job of Congress. So how can a backlogged candidate appeal to court saying this is discrimination because he has to wait for decades to get green card due to country cap? Because if the candidate makes that argument, the court is just going to defer that to Congress and ask the candidate to approach members of Congress and do advocacy for changing the law. How can a court override the law made by Congress?

You have made the case for fighting this issue in court multiple times but my personal feeling is that the case will not stand in court even for a day. If it was a indeed genuine way of solving this issue, then someone would have approached the court by now. I believe advocacy remains the only way.

https://www.facebook.com/17808136555...30530796978597

Senator Lee's post today.

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Originally Posted by TheLureoftheGreen

How about Bernie? Did he decide to not object knowing full well that Purdue was going to? Do we know anything about that? Else, we'll just see another "surprise" objection next time...

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Let's not forget Bernie is heavily influenced by his Pakistani campaign manager Faiz Shakir, who is behind Bernie's comments on Kashmir. Pakistanis are against this bill for obvious reasons.

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Originally Posted by PD2008AUG25

Let's not forget Bernie is heavily influenced by his Pakistani campaign manager Faiz Shakir, who is behind Bernie's comments on Kashmir. Pakistanis are against this bill for obvious reasons.

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Actually Bernie has opposed high skilled immigration since his first campaign in 2016 and he has been consistent on his views since years if not decades. So give the man his due. But ot course the chances of him getting nomination or becoming the president are very very low. One potential issue is the damage he can do to the current bill. Also note that Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib opposed the bill in House and voted against it. So this seems to be a trend among far left politicians.

Iatiam

Jonty - it is mighty progress to advocate against country caps as opposed to EAD relief and similar issues IV used to advocate for. As I said they should give this blog its due.

However I disagree that advocacy (i.e. legislative way) is the only way. I think nobody has even tried courts. Second public opinion is another way to make advocacy even more effective. The moment people realize how much injustice Indians and Chinese are facing ... believe me .. they will root for you.

As I said earlier in my post - principles and values and peoples' wishes are bigger than laws regulations and even constitution. Hence it is critical to appeal to Americans' sense of justice.

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Originally Posted by Jonty Rhodes

Q, you have mentioned many times about fighting this battle in the courts but one thing that I fail to understand is that how can you win this in court? There is a law that Congress made. The system is working as per the law. Right now there is a backlog for certain countries because there is more demand than supply from those countries. However that doesn't mean that the law is not doing its job.

I am not arguing in favor of the law of country caps. But whether I like the law or not, it is still the law and the system is following that law and working according to it.

The job of the court is to interpret laws and not change them or make new laws. That is the job of Congress. So how can a backlogged candidate appeal to court saying this is discrimination because he has to wait for decades to get green card due to country cap? Because if the candidate makes that argument, the court is just going to defer that to Congress and ask the candidate to approach members of Congress and do advocacy for changing the law. How can a court override the law made by Congress?

You have made the case for fighting this issue in court multiple times but my personal feeling is that the case will not stand in court even for a day. If it was a indeed genuine way of solving this issue, then someone would have approached the court by now. I believe advocacy remains the only way.

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Originally Posted by iatiam

Actually Bernie has opposed high skilled immigration since his first campaign in 2016 and he has been consistent on his views since years if not decades. So give the man his due. But of course the chances of him getting nomination or becoming the president are very very low. One potential issue is the damage he can do to the current bill. Also note that Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib opposed the bill in House and voted against it. So this seems to be a trend among far left politicians.

Iatiam

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Bernie is far far left and he will never jump on the legal immigration band wagon. I think not only Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib, Democrats were generally never good for India.

As Q quoted - - for such a change in the political mindset, people of America should get involved , Q is absolutely right. IV or other organizations should talk about this as much as possible through main stream media. Besides, we ourselves should talk about it with Americans we meet and greet everyday to spread the knowledge. Many Americans I talk to, have no knowledge of Legal immigration but, are well aware of DACA.

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

Jonty - it is mighty progress to advocate against country caps as opposed to EAD relief and similar issues IV used to advocate for. As I said they should give this blog its due.

However I disagree that advocacy (i.e. legislative way) is the only way. I think nobody has even tried courts. Second public opinion is another way to make advocacy even more effective. The moment people realize how much injustice Indians and Chinese are facing ... believe me .. they will root for you.

As I said earlier in my post - principles and values and peoples' wishes are bigger than laws regulations and even constitution. Hence it is critical to appeal to Americans' sense of justice.

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Q - Who knows! God forbid if this does not work then maybe IV would decide to take this approach. This is the most conducive time for having this bill passed. If not now, then I do not see this passing ever...

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

Jonty - it is mighty progress to advocate against country caps as opposed to EAD relief and similar issues IV used to advocate for. As I said they should give this blog its due.

However I disagree that advocacy (i.e. legislative way) is the only way. I think nobody has even tried courts. Second public opinion is another way to make advocacy even more effective. The moment people realize how much injustice Indians and Chinese are facing ... believe me .. they will root for you.

As I said earlier in my post - principles and values and peoples' wishes are bigger than laws regulations and even constitution. Hence it is critical to appeal to Americans' sense of justice.

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So who are we supposed to sue? USCIS for implementing the laws of the country or the Federal government for using it's sovereign rights to decide who enters the country?

Iatiam

IATIAM, I hope you understand that it's not my fight and it's not my path to walk on. I can only show you the way ... these are good questions to brainstorm as part of your strategy. As I said --- if I were doing these things I will wage a war on 3 fronts:

1) Courts
2) Public Opinion and Corporations
3) Legislative Bodies

Right now only #3 is being pursued which is necessary but not sufficient.

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Originally Posted by iatiam

So who are we supposed to sue? USCIS for implementing the laws of the country or the Federal government for using it's sovereign rights to decide who enters the country?

Iatiam

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

IATIAM, I hope you understand that it's not my fight and it's not my path to walk on. I can only show you the way ... these are good questions to brainstorm as part of your strategy. As I said --- if I were doing these things I will wage a war on 3 fronts:

1) Courts
2) Public Opinion and Corporations
3) Legislative Bodies

Right now only #3 is being pursued which is necessary but not sufficient.

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Using this thread to brainstorm on an idea for approaching courts. Will be great if you share inputs for feasibility of this as this has been on my mind for some time now. The idea aims at going to court for being able to apply for citizenship (without necessarily getting a GC as the numerical limitations only pertain to to GC and not citizenship). As per instructions for form N-400 (application for naturalization), the following are the eligibility criteria for applying for naturalization.

1. You are at least 18 years of age at the time of filing (except active duty members of the U.S. Armed Forces);
2. You are a permanent resident of the United States for a required period of time;
3. You have lived within the state or USCIS district where you claim residence for at least 3 months prior to filing;
4. You have demonstrated physical presence within the United States for a required period of time;
5. You have demonstrated continuous residence for a required period of time;
6. You demonstrate good moral character;
7. You demonstrate an attachment to the principles and ideals of the U.S. Constitution;
8. You demonstrate a basic knowledge of U.S. history and government (also known as “civics”) as well as an ability to
read, write, speak and understand basic English; and
9. You take an Oath of Allegiance to the United States. Some applicants may be eligible for a modified oath.

Most of us will meet all criteria except 2. The idea is to go to court for the definition of 'permanent resident'. Since H1-B with approved I-140 is renewable in perpetuity, why is it not considered permanent ? Perhaps the case for people on EAD after filing I-485 is even stronger.

IMO, best people to challenge this will be EB2-NIW candidates who have EAD. This will be because EB2-NIW does not need to be backed by an approved labour. Therefore EB2-NIW + EAD candidates ARE permanent residents.

If a challenge in court is successful, this will imply at least people with EB2-NIW, who have an EAD for 5 years, will be able to apply for citizenship. In the best case scenario, even people who have an approved I-140 > 5 years, will be able to apply for citizenship.

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Originally Posted by NJMavarick

I think enough capital is spent on this to start something new. This is the root cause which they are trying to address.

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The root cause is not country cap. 140K is not enough visas for EB category. Remember, India always received more GCs than 7% most years in EB1/2/3 category.

In my opinion, allocating 30% for the most backlogged country would have been much better. The backlogged country is guaranteed certain visas and others would have to wait probably 12-18 months. Such bill wouldn't have attracted ROWers to lobby against it.

What country cap removal will achieve is, spread the pain unanimously which I think is not good. Many ROWers apply GC while on OPT itself and they don't even apply H-1Bs. Country cap removal will force everyone apply for H-1Bs which in turn reduce the total H-1Bs from India.

Any day, I would have taken 30% for most backlogged country than going for everything. 30% and I-140 EAD would have been awesome without catching anyone's attention.

Just my $.02

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Originally Posted by Immigo

Using this thread to brainstorm on an idea for approaching courts. Will be great if you share inputs for feasibility of this as this has been on my mind for some time now. The idea aims at going to court for being able to apply for citizenship (without necessarily getting a GC as the numerical limitations only pertain to to GC and not citizenship). As per instructions for form N-400 (application for naturalization), the following are the eligibility criteria for applying for naturalization.

1. You are at least 18 years of age at the time of filing (except active duty members of the U.S. Armed Forces);
2. You are a permanent resident of the United States for a required period of time;
3. You have lived within the state or USCIS district where you claim residence for at least 3 months prior to filing;
4. You have demonstrated physical presence within the United States for a required period of time;
5. You have demonstrated continuous residence for a required period of time;
6. You demonstrate good moral character;
7. You demonstrate an attachment to the principles and ideals of the U.S. Constitution;
8. You demonstrate a basic knowledge of U.S. history and government (also known as “civics”) as well as an ability to
read, write, speak and understand basic English; and
9. You take an Oath of Allegiance to the United States. Some applicants may be eligible for a modified oath.

Most of us will meet all criteria except 2. The idea is to go to court for the definition of 'permanent resident'. Since H1-B with approved I-140 is renewable in perpetuity, why is it not considered permanent ? Perhaps the case for people on EAD after filing I-485 is even stronger.

IMO, best people to challenge this will be EB2-NIW candidates who have EAD. This will be because EB2-NIW does not need to be backed by an approved labour. Therefore EB2-NIW + EAD candidates ARE permanent residents.

If a challenge in court is successful, this will imply at least people with EB2-NIW, who have an EAD for 5 years, will be able to apply for citizenship. In the best case scenario, even people who have an approved I-140 > 5 years, will be able to apply for citizenship.

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You are basically challenging definition of "Permanent resident". As per the law it is clear who is considered permanent resident: Any person not a citizen of the United States who is living in the U.S. under legally recognized and lawfully recorded permanent residence as an immigrant. Also known as “permanent resident alien,” “resident alien permit holder,” and “Green Card holder.”
Key words= Legally recognized and lawfully recorded...
It is going to be really difficult to challenge that in the court.

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Originally Posted by jimmys

What country cap removal will achieve is, spread the pain unanimously which I think is not good. Many ROWers apply GC while on OPT itself and they don't even apply H-1Bs. Country cap removal will force everyone apply for H-1Bs which in turn reduce the total H-1Bs from
Just my $.02

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Good; the pain should be EQUAL for ALL; they they all might come to the table to find a consensus. Status Quo works awesome for ROW; express lane no wait.

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Originally Posted by smuggymba

What does Perdue want - More visa for nurses or less visa for nurses. I'm hearing both versions.

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Read somewhere else that Perdue-Lee have a deal. Nurses will get 15K instead of 8K. Likely to be up for UC tomorrow.

Now waiting for Bernie to pop up with a carve out for agricultural workers :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by bookworm

Read somewhere else that Perdue-Lee have a deal. Nurses will get 15K instead of 8K. Likely to be up for UC tomorrow.

Now waiting for Bernie to pop up with a carve out for agricultural workers :rolleyes:

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True! Looking at this..whats stopping another Senator to request for some other carve out! Knowing that all it takes is one Senator..I am not too optimistic. Mind says No, Heart says Yes.

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Originally Posted by NJMavarick

True! Looking at this..whats stopping another Senator to request for some other carve out! Knowing that all it takes is one Senator..I am not too optimistic. Mind says No, Heart says Yes.

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Marsha Blackburn seems to say no as well.... we shall see.

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Originally Posted by EB22010Dec

Marsha Blackburn seems to say no as well.... we shall see.

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apparently that's an older letter so her current position might be different.

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Originally Posted by bookworm

Read somewhere else that Perdue-Lee have a deal. Nurses will get 15K instead of 8K. Likely to be up for UC tomorrow.

Now waiting for Bernie to pop up with a carve out for agricultural workers :rolleyes:

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Nurses had 5K for the next 9 years under Rand deal, where is this 8K/15K coming from. Well what about other industries...agriculture, poultry, research, astrophysics and biotech. LOL.

If that happens, I'd be impressed by the lobby of Nurses and who is funding them.

If it doesn't pass this time around, it will be political suicide for Mike Lee; he better do his homework properly and have it checked before going to school.

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Originally Posted by smuggymba

Nurses had 5K for the next 9 years under Rand deal, where is this 8K/15K coming from. Well what about other industries...agriculture, poultry, research, astrophysics and biotech. LOL.

If that happens, I'd be impressed by the lobby of Nurses and who is funding them.

If it doesn't pass this time around, it will be political suicide for Mike Lee; he better do his homework properly and have it checked before going to school.

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Why wold you think it would be political suicide for Mike Lee if it does not pass? If that were the case, I am sure Democratic Senators would have been opposed to this. While I do think, before UC he needs to make sure that there are no other objections.

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Originally Posted by NJMavarick

Why wold you think it would be political suicide for Mike Lee if it does not pass? If that were the case, I am sure Democratic Senators would have been opposed to this. While I do think, before UC he needs to make sure that there are no other objections.

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What I mean is he can't go for UC THIRD time around and have another Senator block it. Going for UC after UC after UC will make a mockery of him and the process and brings in more bad press. So, better be prepared well this time.

So far many ROW students were not applying H1B, they were getting GC straight from OPT. There are many instances where their H1B is rejected, but GC is approved. With S386 bill, H1B rules are getting even more harder and here on wards every body has to apply for H1B in order to stay here and get a GC.

For them getting GC is far more easier now than H1B. That's the primary reason why hate this bill.

These are the ones competing with avg/below skilled Americans, not the people from big countries, who survive going through multiple H1B extension.

This big selling point on this bill is strict H1B rules, so please be aware of this and mention this to your senators explicitly.

Looks like David Perdue agreed, but not Dick Durbin put a hold.
I don't think UC will work, we shall see.

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Originally Posted by EB22010Dec

Looks like David Perdue agreed, but not Dick Durbin put a hold.
I don't think UC will work, we shall see.

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It's a marathon... and in a marathon the last mile is the hardest.. don't give up... keep at it!

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Originally Posted by EB22010Dec

Looks like David Perdue agreed, but not Dick Durbin put a hold.
I don't think UC will work, we shall see.

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Coming up for UC tomorrow according to Sen.Lee but is concerned about Sen.Durbin

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Originally Posted by gs1968

Coming up for UC tomorrow according to Sen.Lee but is concerned about Sen.Durbin

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Eagerly waiting for tomorrow; either Mike Lee is confident or he is setting up for giving up speech. Time will tell. Too many variables as of now; will be online on C-Span tomorrow :)

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Originally Posted by smuggymba

Eagerly waiting for tomorrow; either Mike Lee is confident or he is setting up for giving up speech. Time will tell. Too many variables as of now; will be online on C-Span tomorrow :)

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I agree. The timing is critical if they want this implemented by the start of fiscal year 2020. They expect immediate house concurrence without any conference. This will be a very useful first step towards expanding GC availability

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Originally Posted by gs1968

I agree. The timing is critical if they want this implemented by the start of fiscal year 2020. They expect immediate house concurrence without any conference. This will be a very useful first step towards expanding GC availability

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Postponed ... what ever it means.

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Originally Posted by smuggymba

Eagerly waiting for tomorrow; either Mike Lee is confident or he is setting up for giving up speech. Time will tell. Too many variables as of now; will be online on C-Span tomorrow :)

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IV tweeted this morning

"We would like to share that the Unanimous Consent request for The Fairness For High Skilled Immigrants Act has been postponed. Members from the state of Illinois need to continue calling and sharing their stories with Senator Durbin."

Seems it will be delayed. Anyone has more information on this ? Please share.

NIAC posted that Sen. Lee was asked to hold off on the unanimous consent vote because the new version of the bill cuts legal immigration.
I am assuming this is a result of the deal with Sen.Perdue but there is no specific amendment showing up yet on GPO. It is possible that the language of the agreement was incorporated into the Bill itself as a substitute and so no separate amendment shows up. It seems like with every agreement reached they are straying further away from the House Bill and the base S.386 bill. Senate votes are scheduled between 1215 and 130pm and I expect they will recess and come back after Columbus Day. No cloture motions are pending after this

PS-AILA has the new version of the Bill below.Increases nurses quota to 7200

https://www.aila.org/File/Related/19080632.pdf

It does appear like the derivative applicants for the 7200 visas are restricted to no more than 2800 per year.This could possibly be the reason.

https://twitter.com/psyinfeld/status...877427200?s=21

Senator Dick Durbin making a mockery of all Indians. Lets make sure we have our voices heard.

Adding insult to injury as if we haven't had enough already
If we cannot even unite now and speak in one voice, I think we don’t deserve any better

Must show our outrage and speak up

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Originally Posted by rock581

https://twitter.com/psyinfeld/status...877427200?s=21

Senator Dick Durbin making a mockery of all Indians. Lets make sure we have our voices heard.

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We should share it with all democrat's who sponsored the house bill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73s8aosYnkM

Senator Dick Durbin has already made up his mind. I don't know if phone calls will work anymore. IV needs to come up with a different strategy.

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Originally Posted by gten20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73s8aosYnkM

Senator Dick Durbin has already made up his mind. I don't know if phone calls will work anymore. IV needs to come up with a different strategy.

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Yeah. In hindsight, it should have been something like 50% FCFS and 50% current situation, may have reduced opposition drastically. It is too late now. Unanimous consent is almost impossible.


Was just seeing USCIS director Cuccinelli's interview with CIS. He mentions:

1. The reason they are not able to move forward with H4EAD abolition is because they have higher priority things around souther border that came up. And that the interventionist in the lawsuit (IV) carries heft and they can't just compromise with lawsuit filers.

2. Around S386, he says that he has no sympathy for Iranian Americans. He seemed a little sympathetic towards Indian situation. But he sees no chance that the legislation can go through with unanimous consent.

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Originally Posted by gten20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73s8aosYnkM

Senator Dick Durbin has already made up his mind. I don't know if phone calls will work anymore. IV needs to come up with a different strategy.

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These ROW guys, whose worst case scenario is that they have to wait 5 years are coming together in full force and we desis are sitting home waiting for someone else to do something.

PS: I have met with congressmen's staff multiple times (not with IV though) so I try to do my bit. My close friends are too busy and have too many things going to be be thinking about this backlog.

We as desis, deserve to be in backlog.

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Originally Posted by smuggymba

These ROW guys, whose worst case scenario is that they have to wait 5 years are coming together in full force and we desis are sitting home waiting for someone else to do something.

PS: I have met with congressmen's staff multiple times (not with IV though) so I try to do my bit. My close friends are too busy and have too many things going to be be thinking about this backlog.

We as desis, deserve to be in backlog.

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If we do not stand up for ourselves , no one else will
Its surprising that ROW unity beats us almost everywhere. Look at the ROw'ers clapping and shouting in that video. Hey, they seem to beat us even at trolling ....and we are supposed to be the IT experts !
If we are 560, 000 - Why can't we show up and get counted under one word . DISCRIMINATION.

Can someone ask the Senator - do countries immigrate or individuals immigrate ? If Indians can wait 56 years , why the rest cannot wait for their turn ?

Here are a few truths we can derive from this:

The bill is dead
Durbin is an ass(h***)
America continues to be a racist nation
At the end of the day it's each race / nationality / person for themselves
Modi's Howdy is a joke because he has actually no leverage or sway over Trump
If the Irish or Israeli or any other nationality were being screwed other than Indians, this would have been fixed a long time ago

On a personal note, I'm glad I got my Canadian PR. I would rather pay taxes there and become a citizen in three years.

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Originally Posted by abcx13

America continues to be a racist nation

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There is not really anything I can say that can really help you and others with your hurt.

But I just wanted to say that America sure has a racist past as well as its fair share of racism even today. However America is not a racist country. I know today my words may not make much sense to you. But hopefully someday you will realize this.

Immigration policy used to be driven purely through economic and geopolitical objectives. The Trump folks have injected racism into it. But America will bounce back to sanity sooner or later.

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Originally Posted by abcx13

Here are a few truths we can derive from this:

The bill is dead
Durbin is an ass(h***)
America continues to be a racist nation
At the end of the day it's each race / nationality / person for themselves
Modi's Howdy is a joke because he has actually no leverage or sway over Trump
If the Irish or Israeli or any other nationality were being screwed other than Indians, this would have been fixed a long time ago

On a personal note, I'm glad I got my Canadian PR. I would rather pay taxes there and become a citizen in three years.

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Congratulations on your canadian PR. I am curious if you live in US?

Guys,

The system is what it is. You have to work within the limits of the current system and do what's best for you. I have listed a few things below that you can do to safeguard your future. Note that practicing the art of delayed gratification is big part of it.

1. Find a job that you really enjoy, because you are going to stuck with it for a very long time. Even if it means transferring your immigration status to a new employer (H1b transfer, etc.)

2. Make sure your spouse doesn't sit idle either waiting for GC. She can either find a job for herself or advance her education that will make her employable and be able to get her own H1b (in case H4 EAD is gone, you should rely on nothing).

3. Work hard and make yourself indispensable to your employers.

4. Save, save, save, and invest, invest, invest with a good solid investment plan. There are no get rich quick schemes here. A good investment plan is always long term just like your GC wait (delayed gratification).

5. Do not lock yourself in any physical assets such as house, expensive cars, etc. In case something goes wrong and your have to leave the country, you should be able to liquidate everything with a click of a button. Renting is not bad no matter how much people will try to convince you the other way. Particularly, renting is not bad when your rent is paid from the dividends/capital gains from your investments that you made instead of putting that money towards down payments, big house expenses, etc.

6. The idea of the above two bullet points is that you should be in a position to retire comfortably in India if you have to go back because of the GC mess. Then if you decide to work in India, good for you. But it should be optional. Note that financial independence is the true independence. I have seen people who got the GC after a long time and then stuck themselves all over again in a big house and 30 year expensive mortgage. That type of independence is hollow.

7. Produce babies, at least two of them for reliability reasons (remember every plane has two engines in case one dies). When they become 21 years old (delayed gratification), they can sponsor your GC and you will get it with no wait. Now the game has changed. You are a parent of a U.S. citizen and the system will work for you whether you are in US or outside of US 5-10 years from now.

8. It seems one of the big things in desi community is to show their parents America. Make sure you do that at least once for both side parents, so that bucket list item will be off of your chest in case you have to leave the country. While they are here, they can also babysit your kids for 6 months at a time when you and your spouse are busy in your respective jobs.

Some of the above listed points may seem harsh and cold. But do you have any other alternative? As time passes, GC will become irrelevant. Waiting for GC when you have a million dollars in Bank is lot more fun than waiting for GC when you have only, say $25,000 in bank. Hope this helps!