I485 Information, details and scenario playout

Received Biometrics Appointment for Jan5th in Dallas.Me and spouse received same time, do they let kids inside.

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Originally Posted by tomhagen

Sorry for the delayed response. Yesterday was my biometrics appointment. For me and my wife code is 3. I don't believe it is going to cause any problem or delay. It is all depends on how recently they have the finger prints of the applicant.

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Happy to inform the forum that received EAD combo card on December 17th for both me and my wife. Here is the timeline.

USCIS Received date : 7th October
Checks Encashed : 23rd October
USCIS Notice Date : 24th October
Receipts received : 2nd November
Biometric appointment notices received : 13th November
Biometrics given : 30th November
Card Ordered email: 10th December
765 & 131 Approved : 11th December
Card Production email : 15th December
Card Delivered : 17th December

EAD validity : 1 Year

Best of luck for the folks who filed for adjustment of status

Tom Hagen
What is ur priority date
We have applied on November 6 for I 485
Have still not received receipt or biometric either

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Originally Posted by longwaitgigu

Tom Hagen
What is ur priority date
We have applied on November 6 for I 485
Have still not received receipt or biometric either

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PD May 2011. Some how applications from the third week of October is taking way too long. Did you try to chat with Emma and ask for live agent then speak to USCIS Rep ? If not try that. Good Luck

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Originally Posted by tomhagen

Happy to inform the forum that received EAD combo card on December 17th for both me and my wife. Here is the timeline.

USCIS Received date : 7th October
Checks Encashed : 23rd October
USCIS Notice Date : 24th October
Receipts received : 2nd November
Biometric appointment notices received : 13th November
Biometrics given : 30th November
Card Ordered email: 10th December
765 & 131 Approved : 11th December
Card Production email : 15th December
Card Delivered : 17th December

EAD validity : 1 Year

Best of luck for the folks who filed for adjustment of status

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Congratulations!!!!
This is a wonderful Christmas gift !!!

Hopefully more of us will start receiving them soon...

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Originally Posted by tomhagen

Happy to inform the forum that received EAD combo card on December 17th for both me and my wife. Here is the timeline.

USCIS Received date : 7th October
Checks Encashed : 23rd October
USCIS Notice Date : 24th October
Receipts received : 2nd November
Biometric appointment notices received : 13th November
Biometrics given : 30th November
Card Ordered email: 10th December
765 & 131 Approved : 11th December
Card Production email : 15th December
Card Delivered : 17th December

EAD validity : 1 Year

Best of luck for the folks who filed for adjustment of status

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tomhagen - been a very long time I have seen your posts. Part happy part sad to see old timers like you still waiting. But hang in there ... this should be your year I suppose! What's your PD and category?

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Originally Posted by qesehmk

tomhagen - been a very long time I have seen your posts. Party happy party sad to see old timers like you still waiting. But hang in there ... this should be your year I suppose! What's your PD and category?

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Q Thank you very much. I was not posting in the forum but every day at least 10-15 minutes i spend in the forum and keep myself up to date :). This is the only sane place out there with meaningful discussions :))

My PD is May 2011 in EB2 and Yes I have a strong feeling that 2020-21 is my year. Rest all in the hands of almighty :)

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Originally Posted by tomhagen

Q Thank you very much. I was not posting in the forum but every day at least 10-15 minutes i spend in the forum and keep myself up to date :). This is the only sane place out there with meaningful discussions :))

My PD is May 2011 in EB2 and Yes I have a strong feeling that 2020-21 is my year. Rest all in the hands of almighty :)

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Let's cross fingers. With EAD you are already half way there !!

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Originally Posted by tomhagen

Happy to inform the forum that received EAD combo card on December 17th for both me and my wife. Here is the timeline.

USCIS Received date : 7th October
Checks Encashed : 23rd October
USCIS Notice Date : 24th October
Receipts received : 2nd November
Biometric appointment notices received : 13th November
Biometrics given : 30th November
Card Ordered email: 10th December
765 & 131 Approved : 11th December
Card Production email : 15th December
Card Delivered : 17th December

EAD validity : 1 Year

Best of luck for the folks who filed for adjustment of status

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This was very quick :) . I had the biometric appointment on 1st December 2020 , and then the case got transferred. I hope the EAD comes this soon.

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Originally Posted by nankrish

I filed my AOS and USCIS received it on Oct 12th. I got the receipt notices today from the Lawyer.

Notice Date in the receipt notices: Nov 3rd

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Just an update to my case. Completed biometrics appointment on Dec 23rd.

This is question out of fear and anxiety
We still have not received our receipts.
What is possibility of refilling i485 if uscis rejects the application and dates of filing is closed in Jan.
Does uscis allow to refile in window period of rejection? Or we have to wait whenever it opens back up
PD oct 2010-eb3

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Originally Posted by longwaitgigu

This is question out of fear and anxiety
We still have not received our receipts.
What is possibility of refilling i485 if uscis rejects the application and dates of filing is closed in Jan.
Does uscis allow to refile in window period of rejection? Or we have to wait whenever it opens back up
PD oct 2010-eb3

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heres what i have seen regarding refiling based on experience of friends i personally know.

1. If USCIS rejects the application for a valid reason, and they your dates are not current for refiling, you normally need to wait till the dates to be current for filing a new application again.

2. However, there is a an exception to this, when the rejection is because of a mistake in processing. In this case, you are allowed to resend the same application with clarification. The only condition here is that everything mentioned in the original application should be still valid (and no modifications are allowed). Just a few additional documentation can be provided to show why the rejection was incorrect. This happened to a couple of my friends i personally know. They will normally provide you the reason why it was rejected in the rejection notices. If you think this the reason is not valid or incorrect, you can get back to them with the clarification.

I have normally seen approval and rejection notices take the same amount of time to be sent. So i would think your application has just not been processed due to workload, and you just need to wait a bit. They do seem to be overloaded, as last year the receipt notices were sent in 2-3 weeks in close to 100% of the cases. If they received it, and have not sent an approval or rejection notice, the ball is clearly on their court.

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Originally Posted by rabp77

heres what i have seen regarding refiling based on experience of friends i personally know.

1. If USCIS rejects the application for a valid reason, and they your dates are not current for refiling, you normally need to wait till the dates to be current for filing a new application again.

2. However, there is a an exception to this, when the rejection is because of a mistake in processing. In this case, you are allowed to resend the same application with clarification. The only condition here is that everything mentioned in the original application should be still valid (and no modifications are allowed). Just a few additional documentation can be provided to show why the rejection was incorrect. This happened to a couple of my friends i personally know. They will normally provide you the reason why it was rejected in the rejection notices. If you think this the reason is not valid or incorrect, you can get back to them with the clarification.

I have normally seen approval and rejection notices take the same amount of time to be sent. So i would think your application has just not been processed due to workload, and you just need to wait a bit. They do seem to be overloaded, as last year the receipt notices were sent in 2-3 weeks in close to 100% of the cases. If they received it, and have not sent an approval or rejection notice, the ball is clearly on their court.

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Thankyou for your insight

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Originally Posted by srisri

Which is your service center, TSC or NSC? A few friends of mine from sept and oct 2009 are yet to receive RFEs, one of whom is current for the past two months. All of their applications are being processed at TSC

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so how does this scenario works out... we just have to wait to receive RFE and then take the next steps? I am Oct 09 and not current yet, but on EAD for ages now and not sure what the next steps are after becoming current.

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Originally Posted by desiman

so how does this scenario works out... we just have to wait to receive RFE and then take the next steps? I am Oct 09 and not current yet, but on EAD for ages now and not sure what the next steps are after becoming current.

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Once you file I-485, I-131 and I-765, first you get receipt notices. Then you get a Fingerprinting appointment. Don't miss the FP. If you do not show up for fingerprinting, it will mostly lead to denial of I-485. Once USCIS gets your FP, then they send it to FBI and all agencies so that background check can be completed. Usually after FP is done, you will see the EAD/AP approval. With pandemic, I am not sure how this timeline works. Some people have received EAD/AP without FP.

If you are one of the folks who happen to share last or first names with terrorists or other person of interest to USA or somehow show up as related in their system, then the background process will drag on. I have heard stories where some folks from sensitive countries such as Iran are waiting more than 1+ years to clear background check.

If you application is complete (i.e., I-693, I-944 and everything else is included) then you will not hear anything. Otherwise USCIS will send a RFE and ask for missing information. You will be in a black hole and will visit online forums a lot to know what's happening to people with PDs around you. Usually it take 6+ months in DT admin. The JB admin will definitely speed it up.

There are folks who had already filed I-485 a few years back and have completed all the processes that I had mentioned above. When their PD is not current, they will be moved to the category of "Pre Adjudicated". Their paper copy files are sent to off site storage. Then you wait till your PDs is current for USCIS to bring back those files, issue new RFEs for I-694, Supp J etc.

Once everything is complete from your side, you need to watch the "processing times". If you exceed normal processing time, then you can raise a service request.

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Originally Posted by idliman

Once you file I-485, I-131 and I-765, first you get receipt notices. Then you get a Fingerprinting appointment. Don't miss the FP. If you do not show up for fingerprinting, it will mostly lead to denial of I-485. Once USCIS gets your FP, then they send it to FBI and all agencies so that background check can be completed. Usually after FP is done, you will see the EAD/AP approval. With pandemic, I am not sure how this timeline works. Some people have received EAD/AP without FP.

If you are one of the folks who happen to share last or first names with terrorists or other person of interest to USA or somehow show up as related in their system, then the background process will drag on. I have heard stories where some folks from sensitive countries such as Iran are waiting more than 1+ years to clear background check.

If you application is complete (i.e., I-693, I-944 and everything else is included) then you will not hear anything. Otherwise USCIS will send a RFE and ask for missing information. You will be in a black hole and will visit online forums a lot to know what's happening to people with PDs around you. Usually it take 6+ months in DT admin. The JB admin will definitely speed it up.

There are folks who had already filed I-485 a few years back and have completed all the processes that I had mentioned above. When their PD is not current, they will be moved to the category of "Pre Adjudicated". Their paper copy files are sent to off site storage. Then you wait till your PDs is current for USCIS to bring back those files, issue new RFEs for I-694, Supp J etc.

Once everything is complete from your side, you need to watch the "processing times". If you exceed normal processing time, then you can raise a service request.

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Thanks for the explanation. My PD is 1 month 1 day from your date . Didn't files earlier i485,so if by chance we become current this month ,is there any chance that since they reviewed files recently get priority or they go by priority date.

Thanks Idli-Man from Desi-Man!

I had filed 485 long ago... and did medical few times... hopefully all steps you mentioned are completed... now need to wait for the RFE for the I-694, Supp J, I guess

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Originally Posted by vsivarama

As far as I know it would not matter if they reject your i-765 and i-131. You need to be more concerned about i-485 being rejected. I do not see a reason to panic. I know it's anxious times and while we are waiting any bit of negative news can be blown out of proportion. Do we even know if these case are Employment based or Family based?

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Dear All,
While my (primary) application (I-485, I-765, I-131) is being processed and checks cashed, the derivative's applications (I-485, I-765, I-131) were rejected with "Case Was Rejected Because It Was Improperly Filed" reason. We are still waiting for receipt of notices (notice date 01/19/2021).
When the rejection package is received and we understand what the reason for rejection was, do you think the application can be re-applied if FA date is being used for filing as opposed to DF date?
Thanks in advance for sharing your experience and advice!

PD: 30-Jun-2010 EB2-I
AOS/EAD/AP applied : 28-Oct-2020
Service Center: Lewisville Lockbox
Checks cashed: 21-Jan-2021 (primary only)

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Originally Posted by bangaloreboy

Dear All,
While my (primary) application (I-485, I-765, I-131) is being processed and checks cashed, the derivative's applications (I-485, I-765, I-131) were rejected with "Case Was Rejected Because It Was Improperly Filed" reason. We are still waiting for receipt of notices (notice date 01/19/2021).

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Sad to head about this.

Per the Standard Operating Procedure for I485 the following are the rejection reasons:

1. Incorrect Fee
2. Lack of Signature
3. Basis of Eligibility
4. No Visa Availability and
5. Improper Jurisdiction.

It also says

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If the application is lacking relevant answers or documents (e.g., I-693 or I-944), these must be requested from the applicant through the RFE procedure once the application has been receipted. If such deficiencies can be identified prior to fee acceptance, a "rejection" notice may be used, rather than a request for additional information.

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We have to wait and see. My guess is it should be item 1) or 2) for them to reject a derivative application. OR the attorney / paralegal forgot to fill-in some fields of the I485. Did you get time to go through the application in detail and check the sanity of the application?

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Originally Posted by bangaloreboy

Dear All,
While my (primary) application (I-485, I-765, I-131) is being processed and checks cashed, the derivative's applications (I-485, I-765, I-131) were rejected with "Case Was Rejected Because It Was Improperly Filed" reason. We are still waiting for receipt of notices (notice date 01/19/2021).
When the rejection package is received and we understand what the reason for rejection was, do you think the application can be re-applied if FA date is being used for filing as opposed to DF date?
Thanks in advance for sharing your experience and advice!

PD: 30-Jun-2010 EB2-I
AOS/EAD/AP applied : 28-Oct-2020
Service Center: Lewisville Lockbox
Checks cashed: 21-Jan-2021 (primary only)

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If you are missing the the columns 3a or 9a on the derivatives application, you might be in luck and might be able to refile. https://millermayer.com/2020/in-resp...ection-policy/

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Originally Posted by idliman

Sad to head about this.

Per the Standard Operating Procedure for I485 the following are the rejection reasons:

1. Incorrect Fee
2. Lack of Signature
3. Basis of Eligibility
4. No Visa Availability and
5. Improper Jurisdiction.

It also says


We have to wait and see. My guess is it should be item 1) or 2) for them to reject a derivative application. OR the attorney / paralegal forgot to fill-in some fields of the I485. Did you get time to go through the application in detail and check the sanity of the application?

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Thanks Idliman! To have this information so readily shows your mastery in this subject!
I really hope its either 1 or 2 even though we know it cant be 1 since we filed same fee for both primary and derivative.
And we cross checked our signatures 3 times...
which makes us hang one's hopes on 'Improperly Filed' wording and not something ominous...

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Originally Posted by AceMan

If you are missing the the columns 3a or 9a on the derivatives application, you might be in luck and might be able to refile. https://millermayer.com/2020/in-resp...ection-policy/

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Aceman, thanks very much for the suggestion!
Although we havent received the rejection packet yet, we looked at derivative I-485 form and we did leave 3.a blank and our lawyer seemed to have agreed.
I have 2 questions, would the community be very kind to provide your thoughts?
1. Should 3.a checkbox be selected in the derivative's I-485? (Primary is EB2-I)
2. Can we file corrected application in February, knowing FA date should be used for filing per Feb VB i.e. does this restriction apply to re-submitting rejected applications too?

Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by bangaloreboy

Aceman, thanks very much for the suggestion!
Although we havent received the rejection packet yet, we looked at derivative I-485 form and we did leave 3.a blank and our lawyer seemed to have agreed.
I have 2 questions, would the community be very kind to provide your thoughts?
1. Should 3.a checkbox be selected in the derivative's I-485? (Primary is EB2-I)
2. Can we file corrected application in February, knowing FA date should be used for filing per Feb VB i.e. does this restriction apply to re-submitting rejected applications too?

Thanks again!

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My friend spouse who did not select 3a had her and the kids form rejected. His lawyer corrected and sent it in January first week said USCIS is expected to accept it, even though January had only final date being accepted.

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Originally Posted by AceMan

My friend spouse who did not select 3a had her and the kids form rejected. His lawyer corrected and sent it in January first week said USCIS is expected to accept it, even though January had only final date being accepted.

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That's encouraging! thanks...

I-765 status changed today to card being produced both for spouse and me. We had biometrics appointment on 21st Jan.