Birth Certificate Related

[ravisekhar]

my birth certificate has a birth date as Oct 5th 1978 but my actual birth date is Oct 8th 1978, Even my Passport and all my other certificates shows date as Oct 8th 1978. Can some one help me what steps should i take to get the birth date corrected . I was born in india.

[qesehmk]

Ravi,

If you are losing sleep over it tehn go to a lawyer (personal or company one). But personally if I were in your position, I would simply trust common sense will prevail. They will go by your passport date. Worst case they will issue an RFE.

p.s. - Believe it or not, I have stamped my H1 without all the required documentation. The american burecracy is much more flexible ... as long as you have a credible case that you were born someday :-)


my birth certificate has a birth date as Oct 5th 1978 but my actual birth date is Oct 8th 1978, Even my Passport and all my other certificates shows date as Oct 8th 1978. Can some one help me what steps should i take to get the birth date corrected . I was born in india.

[soggadu]

gurus...one off topic question... my birth certificate has my last name as a letter ... for example if my full name is Soggadu Shoban babu... my birth certificate has it as S.Shoban Babu... please let me know if this is a problem....

[skpanda]

I am no Guru... but my 2 cents - If you cannot get the birth certificate changed, I think affidavits from your parents with full name would help. I have sample affidavits if you need them. Just PM me.


gurus...one off topic question... my birth certificate has my last name as a letter ... for example if my full name is Soggadu Shoban babu... my birth certificate has it as S.Shoban Babu... please let me know if this is a problem....

[soggadu]

I am no Guru... but my 2 cents - If you cannot get the birth certificate changed, I think affidavits from your parents with full name would help. I have sample affidavits if you need them. Just PM me.

I agree affidavit is another option but i just want to confirm that i need to go that route...anyone has any experience here?

[khushraho]

My daughters birth certificate has the same problem. Both mine and my wife's name is shortened. When I talked to my attorney, he told an affidavit would do.

[neospeed]

gurus...one off topic question... my birth certificate has my last name as a letter ... for example if my full name is Soggadu Shoban babu... my birth certificate has it as S.Shoban Babu... please let me know if this is a problem....

I had the same issue. But i fixed it. Here they are more concerned with last name. Submit both the affidavit from your parents and also BC or else fix your last name in your BC.

[mpurna77]

I agree affidavit is another option but i just want to confirm that i need to go that route...anyone has any experience here?

My wife don't even have birth certificate and can't get one while applying 485. So we used her aunt and uncle affidavits. you can get that in India on stamp paper and sign with them.

[skpanda]

Q and other moderators...
It may be a good idea to move the BC related posts to a new thread. This may help future new members who are interested to scan thru the EB2 thread.


gurus...one off topic question... my birth certificate has my last name as a letter ... for example if my full name is Soggadu Shoban babu... my birth certificate has it as S.Shoban Babu... please let me know if this is a problem....

[TeluguBidda]

I had the same issue. But i fixed it. Here they are more concerned with last name. Submit both the affidavit from your parents and also BC or else fix your last name in your BC.

Affidavit is good but if you have time, let your parents get in touch with the municipal authorities or the hospital where you were born.

My Wife and I had the same issue but I was pleasantly surprised to know that municipal authorities have records of everyone born in a hospital. We were born in different cities but our parents got records quite easily.

I would prefer having the official Birth Certificate from Government authorities, if at all it is possible. Good luck.

[soggadu]

all,

I am opening a new topic here instead of EB2 thread..

So this is my problem...

Last name on Birth Certificate is just a letter. Soggadu Sobhan Babu becomes S.Shoban Babu

Most of you are advising for affidivits... My father is no more and i have my mother and other relatives in india. Can you please let me know the process for getting these affidavits?

[soggadu]

thank you all... i have some more questions on the same issue but i opened a new thread, can you all please answer my questions there...thnks...

[soggadu]

bump.............

[TeluguBidda]

all,

I am opening a new topic here instead of EB2 thread..

So this is my problem...

Last name on Birth Certificate is just a letter. Soggadu Sobhan Babu becomes S.Shoban Babu

Most of you are advising for affidivits... My father is no more and i have my mother and other relatives in india. Can you please let me know the process for getting these affidavits?

Sorry to hear about your father. Regarding birth certificate, your Mother can go to the Municipal Corporation office and request them to check records. They usually ask for few days but with some pleading, etc., they might oblige for a quicker check.

If they absolutely cannot find a copy of your Birth record, the 2nd step would be to go the Hospital / Clinic where you were born. They must be having your birth record. Get a copy of that record, take it to the Municipal Corporation and get a fresh BC.

If neither options mentioned above work OR if you were born in a home rather than a Hospital, etc., your Mother has to work on an Affidavit but it has to be notarized by a Gazetted Officer. USCIS website has instructions regarding this alternative.

Good luck.

[soggadu]

Sorry to hear about your father. Regarding birth certificate, your Mother can go to the Municipal Corporation office and request them to check records. They usually ask for few days but with some pleading, etc., they might oblige for a quicker check.

If they absolutely cannot find a copy of your Birth record, the 2nd step would be to go the Hospital / Clinic where you were born. They must be having your birth record. Get a copy of that record, take it to the Municipal Corporation and get a fresh BC.

If neither options mentioned above work OR if you were born in a home rather than a Hospital, etc., your Mother has to work on an Affidavit but it has to be notarized by a Gazetted Officer. USCIS website has instructions regarding this alternative.

Good luck.

TB, unfortunately the place where i was born in is very far from where my parents live now and i cant ask my mom to visit there... dont even have any relatives at that place now... Looks like only available option is to have the affidavit... what do you guys think??

Born in Sirpur KagazNagar adilabad dt
Living in Vijayawada...

[veni001]

very well listed...one request though...can you/some1 put a copy of affidavit for birth certificate? and how many do we need?

soggadu,
Usually three affidavits are good, one from parent(s) and two from close relatives

See below for DRAFT FORMAT

Affidavit of Birth by PARENT

I, PARENT NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE.
2. That I, PARENT NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
3. I got married on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY to PARENT NAME.
4. My husband/wife, PARENT NAME was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
5. YOUR NAME is our son/daughter, was born to us on DATE OF BIRTH at our home in CITY, COUNTRY.
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

_____________________
PARENT NAME

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________




Affidavit of Birth by RELATIVE


AFFIDAVIT BY RELATIVE NAME
Re: YOUR NAME
I, RELATIVE NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. That I, RELATIVE NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
2. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE
3. That I am closely related to YOUR NAME. I am his RELATIONSHIP.
4. That YOUR NAME was born on DATE OF BIRTH in CITY, COUNTRY to YOUR PARENT(S) NAME(S)
5. That I have direct personal knowledge of the event and circumstances concerning the birth of YOUR NAME.
6. That I have known the applicant since YOUR DATE OF BIRTH.
7. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

______________________
RELATIVE NAME

Subscribed and Sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________

[veni001]

very well listed...one request though...can you/some1 put a copy of affidavit for birth certificate? and how many do we need?

soggadu,
Usually three affidavits are good, one from parent(s) and two from close relatives

See below for DRAFT FORMAT

Affidavit of Birth by PARENT

I, PARENT NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE.
2. That I, PARENT NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
3. I got married on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY to PARENT NAME.
4. My husband/wife, PARENT NAME was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
5. YOUR NAME is our son/daughter, was born to us on DATE OF BIRTH at our home in CITY, COUNTRY.
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

_____________________
PARENT NAME

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________




Affidavit of Birth by RELATIVE


AFFIDAVIT BY RELATIVE NAME
Re: YOUR NAME
I, RELATIVE NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. That I, RELATIVE NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
2. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE
3. That I am closely related to YOUR NAME. I am his RELATIONSHIP.
4. That YOUR NAME was born on DATE OF BIRTH in CITY, COUNTRY to YOUR PARENT(S) NAME(S)
5. That I have direct personal knowledge of the event and circumstances concerning the birth of YOUR NAME.
6. That I have known the applicant since YOUR DATE OF BIRTH.
7. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

______________________
RELATIVE NAME

Subscribed and Sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________

[veni001]

I came across list of I-485 documents in one of the trackitt post, which calls for Birth affidavit and a format is also given . My question is , whether affidavit is required for all applicants or otherwise for people who do not have BC ?

Please check this... (http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?64-Birth-Certificate-Related-Issues..)

[pch053]

Just FYI (and please don't treat this as any ad); I used https://www.yourmaninindia.com/ during 2007 for retrieving my birth certificate from the city corporation and was quite satisfied with their service. They charged somewhere in the range of $100 - $150 (don't remember the actual amount) and got the birth certificate within a month. There was a error in spelling my last name and my father's maiden name and they even rectified those through the city corporation, though I had to pay something extra (another ~$30 - $40 or so). Overall, I paid in the range of $150 - $175 but I had no other option as it wasn't possible for my elderly parents to go to the city corporation office and pursue this issue. Even then, there is no guarantee that one can get the proper documents in time but the quality of service surely varies from city to city (e.g., I have heard from relatives that things are very streamlined in Mumbai).

[pdsep2007]

I got "place of birth" mismatch in passport and birth certificate, will this create a problem in my 485 filling, if it's a problem please let me know how this could be resolved.

[pdsep2007]

When I applied my passport i did not have the birth certificate so i had mentioned the place where i stayed since childhood .Now my parents could get back my birth certificate and the place doesn't match with the one given in the Passport .So will it be a problem when I file my I-485 and if it's a problem please let me know how this could be resolved.

[nayekal]

When I applied my passport i did not have the birth certificate so i had mentioned the place where i stayed since childhood .Now my parents could get back my birth certificate and the place doesn't match with the one given in the Passport .So will it be a problem when I file my I-485 and if it's a problem please let me know how this could be resolved.

I am facing the same issue. Place of Birth in birth certificate doesn't match with that in passport.
You can go to Indian Consulate in US for Birth Certificate. They will verify the place of birth in passport and will issue a new Birth Certificate.

[veni001]

When I applied my passport i did not have the birth certificate so i had mentioned the place where i stayed since childhood .Now my parents could get back my birth certificate and the place doesn't match with the one given in the Passport .So will it be a problem when I file my I-485 and if it's a problem please let me know how this could be resolved.


I am facing the same issue. Place of Birth in birth certificate doesn't match with that in passport.
You can go to Indian Consulate in US for Birth Certificate. They will verify the place of birth in passport and will issue a new Birth Certificate.

You can try one of the following two solutions...
1) Get your place of birth corrected in your passport
2) Try birth affidavits instead of Birth Certificate (http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?64-Birth-Certificate-Related-Issues..)

[pch053]

This may sound stupid question... but i will ask anyway...

Is it possible that out of 42K applications, Few thousand of them are not yet pre-adjudicated (RFE etc). Reason why this occured to me is, we see about 9K numbers in EB2-ROW (4K are in 2010). Even though they appear in inventory report, they will not be approved/greened in FY 2011. Same is true for EB1.

Is that possible for EB2? If yes, then we will have surplus spillover and that may be passed on to EB3

As Spec mentioned, I think its a very reasonable question. I can pitch in with some details from my pending I485 (PD 11th July'07). I have incomplete medical records (couldn't finish all the required medical checks before the 16th Aug'07 deadline) and there is a spelling error in my birth certificate. I haven't received any RFE on these yet and I assume USCIS will issue RFEs if/when my PD gets current. However, my case has been active meaning I have finished 3 fingerprints (with the last once being Oct'10), have forwarded AC21 docs to USCIS and have also received a confirmation saying that the AC21 docs have been appended to my I 485 application, etc. I asked my lawyer and she mentioned that USCIS probably has all the required documents in place (they would have issued RFEs on EVL, paystubs, etc if they had concerns) and might issue the medical and Birth certificate RFEs when my case gets current. But, I don't know exactly what's the status of my case, though I will assume that it is not pre-adjudicated since there are missing documents. On a slightly different note, I think USCIS can issue RFEs even on pre-adjudicated cases, right? I mean, even if a case is pre-adjudicated one might need to answer to probable RFEs before getting I485 approval.

[velugc]

sorry for a off topic question...

I am trying to get a Non Availability of Birth Certificate (NABC) & Birth Certificate (Late Registration) for I485,

As per my Passport my name is Sundar (Given Name) Vadivelu (SurName)...

in SSN \ marriage certificate name is "Sundar Vadivelu" and 10th \ 12 & other educational certificate Name is "Sundar", so i am not sure how my name should be in NABC & Birth Certificate... just "Sundar" or "Sundar Vadivelu"... please advice

[leo07]

velu,

Stakes are high at this point in game. So, please spend 50 bucks and consult able attorney. Your company's attorney MUST do it for you.

If I have to pick, I'd go with the name on Your passport and marriage certificate. Don't you have any higher educational certificate that you submitted to CIS before, that has both the first & last name?( out of curiosity, you can choose to not answer this question)

Best!


sorry for a off topic question...

I am trying to get a Non Availability of Birth Certificate (NABC) & Birth Certificate (Late Registration) for I485,

As per my Passport my name is Sundar (Given Name) Vadivelu (SurName)...

in SSN \ marriage certificate name is "Sundar Vadivelu" and 10th \ 12 & other educational certificate Name is "Sundar", so i am not sure how my name should be in NABC & Birth Certificate... just "Sundar" or "Sundar Vadivelu"... please advice

[velugc]

Thanks Leo.

All my education certificates has my given name "Sundar", which i had submitted to CIS... in non of the edu certificate i have my given name and surname.


velu,

Stakes are high at this point in game. So, please spend 50 bucks and consult able attorney. Your company's attorney MUST do it for you.

If I have to pick, I'd go with the name on Your passport and marriage certificate. Don't you have any higher educational certificate that you submitted to CIS before, that has both the first & last name?( out of curiosity, you can choose to not answer this question)

Best!

[natvyas]

gc_vbin,
Good post, no wonder why i140 and EB1/EB2ROW pending inventory doubled in the last year.

Few bullets to note from the above news letter... (http://www.imminfo.com/News/Newsletter/2011-6-15/recent-trends-RFEs.html)

"First, they now seem to be issuing RFEs on the "ability to pay" issue for every employer that has filed multiple I-140s in the past".
......
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"Second, they are questioning the qualifications of any beneficiary who has a three year undergraduate degree. It doesn't matter that the employee may have a U.S. master's degree or even PhD, if he or she has a three year undergraduate degree, the USCIS is going to challenge the validity of all higher degrees for the same person".
.......
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"Third, the service centers have finally decided to try to apply the illegitimate "employer-employee" memo standards to I-140 petitions for consulting companies".
.......
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The second point stated is very true. I have close friend whose educational credentials are as follows...

he did his 12th grade...then did his diploma ..worked for 1 yr and then got accepted in the undergrduate program (BE) in India...came to the US and did his MS. The requirement to get admission in BE for diploma students was diploma + 1 yr work experience (practical training)....

He got an RFE (I-140 stage) where he is asked to show his diploma certificate and 1 yr work experience even though he had submitted his BE and MS degree certificates. Job requirements were BS+5 or MS+2 or 3 yrs

[gcq]

The second point stated is very true. I have close friend whose educational credentials are as follows...

he did his 12th grade...then did his diploma ..worked for 1 yr and then got accepted in the undergrduate program (BE) in India...came to the US and did his MS. The requirement to get admission in BE for diploma students was diploma + 1 yr work experience (practical training)....

He got an RFE (I-140 stage) where he is asked to show his diploma certificate and 1 yr work experience even though he had submitted his BE and MS degree certificates. Job requirements were BS+5 or MS+2 or 3 yrs

Now a days USCIS is run by goonda raj. They come up with their own crazy rfes which does not have any legal basis. How is the underlying degree relevant when a US university has conferred MS on this candidate ?

This would also mean somebody who has done 3 year degree won't be eligible for a post graduate degree in his life ( as per USCIS )

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy

I absolutely agree and you have given a very good advice.The process is tightening at various points and if anybody has an PD in late 2007 or early 2008 they probably would be better off waiting untill they get the I-485 +180 days to invoke portability to move rather than jump ship right now and go through the Labour and I-140 process.Rules have changed so much from Labours filed in 2006/2007 to 2011 and they are changing even more with all the memo's.

If scrutiny starts for post 485...people will have to be very careful to make sure the codes match along with job descriptions and titles .

Thanks for your kind words, caution is definitely the buzzword with a little bit of luck.


485 is Adjustment of Status, which really means you have gone through all the checks and now converting over to a legal immigrant. If you have valid proof of work for your stay in US, tax returns, marriage certificate, birth certificate, and Medical exam, there is not much INS can do about it. If they can find a loophole in the law, the way they are doing with employer-employee relationship for contracting jobs, or proof of LCA posting on client side, it will be hard to block 485 approvals by law.


That's mostly right. But don't forget FBI background check and medical tests. That is part of 485 process.

Thanks guys for clarifying, the sooner things get done the better otherwise we never know till where the scrutiny can go.

[Spectator]

Trying to put in some positive thinking on. I know I can fall flat on my face tomorrow, but putting out two thoughts.

USCIS knows the upcoming bulletin dates or knows that they are going to be advanced significantly, and that their actions in the first few days which in turn may impact the DOS demand data will have no bearing on the bulletin, and hence there is no pressure to crank the visas to reduce demand. Just like last time, no demand data will be even published.

Second, the 485s from this last few months of the fiasco period, would technically be the last ones to be pre-adjudicated, and seems that they may not all been "perfectly" pre-adjudicated, or levels of adjudication became stricter by the time they got to it, and they are sitting on them, and now, issuing RFEs for medicals, birth certificates, or EVLs, FP notices, etc. Also I think there was a lot of 485s in the last bulletin itself to do, and they maybe even a bit backlogged. Pre-adjudication may not always mean just putting a visa number, I am sure, it goes through a second "quick" review and checklist again. And now since USCIS-DOS communication for both of these above, that's why we see the NVC notices, as a last ditch effort to maximize visa usage for EB2I/C before they can give up and go to EB3.

Now if they are doing NVC for the reason above, then they need to advance this upcoming bulletin itself, so that NVC can grab those visa numbers in advance, schedule the interviews in September first week, and do it's quota, and return whatever was not used. Then in remaining part of September, they can spillover unused to EB3 if we get there.

Something is surely cooking, we can only try to guess. Sometimes, biased due to our own PDs, but trying to put some positive thoughts so that can live one more day until tomorrow.nishant,

I agree with much that you say and a positive post to start the day. :)

At the very least the IBIS check is likely to be out of date. However, USCIS know in advance the dates that will become Current and could perform it in advance, which presumably they did for May / June approvals.

In theory, if it was pre-adjudicated properly, only FP and EVL should apply, since they should have raised RFE for medical, birth certificate etc at the time of pre-adjudication. I do take your point that they may not have been perfectly pre-adjudicated.

My understanding of the CP process is that the visa is allocated to the case by DOS when the interview date is set. If the interview is successful, it is used, otherwise it is returned to DOS by the Consulate. The rate of EB3 returns is typically around 300-400 per month from all sources (data from EB3-C class action lawsuit). Obviously for EB2, which has much lower CP levels the numbers would be correspondingly lower (probably dozens at most).

Therefore, the interview itself does not have to be completed in September, although this could lead to wasted visas, since it is not clear whether, if returned, they can be re-issued once the FY has ended (probably not).

Because of this, I don't perceive the urgency to advance the dates so substantially in the August VB.

I am not entirely convinced they have vast numbers of visas left to allocate. Teddy's figure of around 6-8k seems about right.

CO did say the Demand Data reports would be issued again, although I have my doubts as well.

[nishant2200]

I am on the same boat. I want to tell you guys my miserable story. My PD is in January 2008. I had very bad luck. I started working in 2004 and stayed on the same job for 7 years already. I got another job offer in December 2005, but my current employer gave me a counter offer and promised me green card. At the same time they asked me to sign a contract that I can't leave this company until one year after the green card is approved. In April 2006, I asked my company about the progress and they told me they started posting ads on newspaper, etc. I asked again in December 2006 and they told me it's in progress. I waited to March 2007 and I didn't hear anything. I asked them again and the company told me they didn't do anything yet.............Finally I figured out that they cheated me and tried to delay my GC process as long as they could. I was so naive.........Finally I got PERM filed in January 2008. I waited for 2 years from starting this process to get a PD. The company did everything evil to control me using green card as a tool. This delay caused significant impact on my life....... I was so naive to trust the company and the truth is that they only want to use GC as a tool to control employees.

qblogfan, hang in there. I am seeing a lot of folks getting emotional and sentimental. It makes my voice choke too. Next month I will complete 10 years in the US. I have a bag and a folder full of various documents like birth certificate, school marksheets, all tax returns, pay stubs from day 1, AR-11 printouts, and what have you, everything in the world, my and my wife's entire life story from birth. One day I will be free from that "baggage" and just have a passport :) , we all shall!

[qblogfan]

Nishant,

Thanks for your kind words! I really like sharing this story with my Indian friends here because we all experienced similar things. I never shared this story in MITBBS. :) I feel more comfortable sharing this here.

I hope all of us can get out this crazy waiting asap. best wishes to all our friends here.


qblogfan, hang in there. I am seeing a lot of folks getting emotional and sentimental. It makes my voice choke too. Next month I will complete 10 years in the US. I have a bag and a folder full of various documents like birth certificate, school marksheets, all tax returns, pay stubs from day 1, AR-11 printouts, and what have you, everything in the world, my and my wife's entire life story from birth. One day I will be free from that "baggage" and just have a passport :) , we all shall!

[grnwtg]

qblogfan, hang in there. I am seeing a lot of folks getting emotional and sentimental. It makes my voice choke too. Next month I will complete 10 years in the US. I have a bag and a folder full of various documents like birth certificate, school marksheets, all tax returns, pay stubs from day 1, AR-11 printouts, and what have you, everything in the world, my and my wife's entire life story from birth. One day I will be free from that "baggage" and just have a passport :) , we all shall!

wow, Next month I will also complete my 10 years in US.

[nishant2200]

Folks, this time I have a question myself. My mother's name in my birth certificate has 'ben' appended to name. 'ben' is gujarati way of putting down miss or mrs. Should I try to get ben removed, and if they refuse, some sort of affidavit about the name? Anyone in this situation? Note my school leaving certificate does not have parents name, so cant put that as complete secondary evidence.

[grnwtg]

Folks, this time I have a question myself. My mother's name in my birth certificate has 'ben' appended to name. 'ben' is gujarati way of putting down miss or mrs. Should I try to get ben removed, and if they refuse, some sort of affidavit about the name? Anyone in this situation? Note my school leaving certificate does not have parents name, so cant put that as complete secondary evidence.

In case of my Wife's - Her Mom and Dad surnames( last names) are not printed on Birth Certificates. Went to Local Muncipality but they refused to correct it. Will try again in Local Muncipality office again. So if school certificate has correct name, is it valid as evidence?

[nishant2200]

In case of my Wife's - Her Mom and Dad surnames( last names) are not printed on Birth Certificates. Went to Local Muncipality but they refused to correct it. Will try again in Local Muncipality office again. So if school certificate has correct name, is it valid as evidence?

Yes, as per lawyer it is valid secondary evidence. Actually he told me I will be ok, but I want to be careful. I also found a 'one and same person' affidavit on a immigration website, maybe I will just keep that ready.

[Pedro Gonzales]

It differs from municipality to municipality, but they can not refuse to make the change. They have to have a system in place to allow you to do so,a lthough they will likely give you the run around for near impossible to get items. My wife and I both had the same issue and it required different processes to correct. My wife's mother's name was incorrectly spelled on her birth certificate and my dad's name was incorrectly spelled on mine.

In my wife's case (she was born in Bangalore), we needed to visit the hospital where she was born and get an affidavit from them that they corrected the name in their records. This affidavit required a letter request on stamp paper, valid ID for the mother (i think we used her passport) and valid proof of relationship to my wife (her passport which has the correct mother's name on it). It was tedious but the procedure was clearly specified and we got it done inside two weeks.

In my case (born in Bombay), they wanted 3 pieces of documentary evidence with my father's correct name from before when I was born. Of course, it was a ridiculous request and I couldn't imagine where I was going to get 3 such documents from 35 years ago, especially since we've all moved out of Bombay. But since my dad worked for the Tatas, who are arguably the most professional and helpful organization in the world I could get this done. Seriously man, my dad stopped working for them in 1979, and they still managed to get me documents from his employment records including a pay stub inside 3 days!

[nishant2200]

Thats good, but in my case is 'affidavit' fine? . I am not sure how to justify in affidavit. I am still not sure why last names were omitted/why they cannot correct for my FIL, MIL.
Nishant/OthersPlease suggest me if anyone has this experience

grnwtg, I don't know about reasons, but it's next to impossible to get any change made in birth records, most especially missing blanks. Only way even in India, for any official purpose, like say Passport, you face this problem, you need supplemental evidence, in the form of affidavits and other records. Per lawyer, a school leaving certificate or a letter from school which gives school records (complete name, date of birth, place of birth, date of admission, and names of parents), is perfectly acceptable as secondary evidence to supplement birth certificate problems like yours. Some place even the child's name is not present in birth certificate, just a local dialect equivalent of "baby boy" or "baby girl" is written.

The website I found was immihelp.com : http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/

fellow members, I am sorry to go off topic here. I do think though this is the most visited thread, and visibility is high. Also the problems faced are common problems most of the time, and benefit lot of people waiting to file AOS. Still, please feel free to private message me, if you want me to quiet down on this here, and take it to new thread. Or Q, please shift to new thread, eg: Birth Certificate Issues. Thank you very much.

[qesehmk]

Thats good, but in my case is 'affidavit' fine? . I am not sure how to justify in affidavit. I am still not sure why last names were omitted/why they cannot correct for my FIL, MIL.
Nishant/OthersPlease suggest me if anyone has this experience
Affidavit works great. My wife submitted the same. Dont expect any hiccups. I am not aware of any "Required" format. We just made up our own.


...my dad worked for the Tatas, who are arguably the most professional and helpful organization in the world I could get this done.
Amen to that. TATAs were / are / and will be the best Corporate house in India. I have nothing but outstanding experience with them.




fellow members, I am sorry to go off topic here. I do think though this is the most visited thread, and visibility is high. Also the problems faced are common problems most of the time, and benefit lot of people waiting to file AOS. Still, please feel free to private message me, if you want me to quiet down on this here, and take it to new thread. Or Q, please shift to new thread, eg: Birth Certificate Issues. Thank you very much.

Nishant no worries ... I personally like this one thread model better because it works better for people. I and others will work in the background to move appropriate topicss to appropriate threads.


If the old employer withdraws I-140, USCIS will have no way of knowing whether you have a qualifying same/similar job so that they can continue processing I-485.
Revocation is legal only if employers revokes within 6 months. After 6 months AC21 applies and I-140 becomes irrevocable. That's my understanding. Others please correct me if I am wrong.

[nishant2200]

Thanks Q for confirming.

Also guys, I got this reply from attorney at Ron Gotcher's office, I had put question in detail on their Adjustment of Status thread on their forum. First I am putting the question, and then the answer by attorney.

"Hi, I have the following issue. Let's say my mom is Jane, and father is John. The name of my mother on my birth certificate is 'Janeben' and father is 'Johnkumar'. The 'ben' and 'kumar' are equivalents of Miss and Mister in Gujarat, state of India.

Most official documents of my father have the name 'Johnkumar', but his name in my passport, as well as my USA records (all immigration forms so far, my masters university records and degrees) is 'John'.

Most official documents of my mother have the name 'Jane', as well as in any of my records. Only birth certificate has 'Janeben'.

I found a website which gives a sample 'One and Same person' affidavit, Can I get this done by my parents, one for them each, swearing on official stamp paper and notarized in India, that it's one and same person identified by these various names, and that the names are nothing but cultural ways of addressing the same person."

Answer:

"Affidavits attesting to the names of your parents are a great use of supplemental evidence. We typically only see the name issue arise if the adjudicator is actually paying close attention to the documents submitted. However, having supplemental evidence in the event the question arises is a good idea."

[soggadu]

Also guys, I got this reply from attorney at Ron Gotcher's office, I had put question in detail on their Adjustment of Status thread on their forum. First I am putting the question, and then the answer by attorney.

"Hi, I have the following issue. Let's say my mom is Jane, and father is John. The name of my mother on my birth certificate is 'Janeben' and father is 'Johnkumar'. The 'ben' and 'kumar' are equivalents of Miss and Mister in Gujarat, state of India.

Most official documents of my father have the name 'Johnkumar', but his name in my passport, as well as my USA records (all immigration forms so far, my masters university records and degrees) is 'John'.

Most official documents of my mother have the name 'Jane', as well as in any of my records. Only birth certificate has 'Janeben'.

I found a website which gives a sample 'One and Same person' affidavit, Can I get this done by my parents, one for them each, swearing on official stamp paper and notarized in India, that it's one and same person identified by these various names, and that the names are nothing but cultural ways of addressing the same person."

Answer:

"Affidavits attesting to the names of your parents are a great use of supplemental evidence. We typically only see the name issue arise if the adjudicator is actually paying close attention to the documents submitted. However, having supplemental evidence in the event the question arises is a good idea."

Nishant... same kind of different problem... lets say my name is soggadu (first name) kapoor ( last name )... in my DOB certificate it is stated as SoggaduK... all my other certificates has Soggadu Kapoor... so

1. Can i submit my date of birth certificate as primary and provide three affidavits (one from parents and 2 from relatives)?
2. Or would it be ok to just submit the three affidavits ?

[nishant2200]

Nishant... same kind of different problem... lets say my name is soggadu (first name) kapoor ( last name )... in my DOB certificate it is stated as SoggaduK... all my other certificates has Soggadu Kapoor... so

1. Can i submit my date of birth certificate as primary and provide three affidavits (one from parents and 2 from relatives)?
2. Or would it be ok to just submit the three affidavits ?

In my opinion, from what I learnt so far, from legal sources:
- Submit Birth Certificate as Primary
- Submit two affidavits, both can be parents, one by mother, one by father, which claim personal knowledge about your birth, and clarify the different way in which your name has been put. In my opinion, it would be a hybrid affidavit of knowledge of birth plus the names referring to one and same person. The main purpose of this secondary evidence would be to clarify the name in your birth certificate, not to prove your birth.

( http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/name-issues.html#incomplete-name-incorrect-information )

Also the website said above by me, lists down various secondary evidence you can submit, alongwith different problems faced. one of them is incorrect or missing name, which is your case. You can do that, for eg, school leaving certificate instead of affidavits.

I think I need to add a disclaimer to my signature though, I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, same as a guru here on this forum :)

[soggadu]

In my opinion, from what I learnt so far, from legal sources:
- Submit Birth Certificate as Primary
- Submit two affidavits, both can be parents, one by mother, one by father, which claim personal knowledge about your birth, and clarify the different way in which your name has been put. In my opinion, it would be a hybrid affidavit of knowledge of birth plus the names referring to one and same person. The main purpose of this secondary evidence would be to clarify the name in your birth certificate, not to prove your birth.

( http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/name-issues.html#incomplete-name-incorrect-information )

Also the website said above by me, lists down various secondary evidence you can submit, alongwith different problems faced. one of them is incorrect or missing name, which is your case. You can do that, for eg, school leaving certificate instead of affidavits.

I think I need to add a disclaimer to my signature though, I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, same as a guru here on this forum :)

Thanks dude, it clears an age old question in my mind... i am not going sue you or use this info against you... :-), dont worry about signature...

[soggadu]

sogaddu, u are a GC-Pandit now with ur 200th post. congratulations.

on 'read how it suites you', I would like to say that, sure, read how it suits, but share what your mind says without bias. your heart may read what it suits, but ur mind should share only what sounds reasonable as per facts, analysis and measured interpretation.

wow GC pandit... duhhh... i am feeling just like the time i recieved my engg certificate... got thru but know nothing... on the mind stuff...yes i do agree, though it appeared like a tongue twister with so many minds... :-)

[la_2002_ch]

familyguy,

I checked the number you gave me and it gives a Received Date of January 10, 2008 which is correct from your previous post.

Given the first 2 digits are 08 then it can't report a date in 2006.

Possibly the problem is with the explanation in the description. Using =DATE(2000+INT(MID(A2,3,5)/1000),1,MOD(MID(A2,3,5),1000)) then the case number needs to be in cell A2. If the Case Number was in cell B2684, then the formula would need changing accordingly.

I will change the post to say A1 and make it clear which part refers to the location of the Case Number.

Could you try again and report back please?

Spec, I used the above formula in the excel sheet to calculate my priority date. My Case number is A-08113 and I had my case number in Cell A1. I got a date of Apr 2008, while the approvaed labor certificate sent to me by by employer states Sep 2008. Please advise where am I making a mistake.

[nayekal]

I recently got a BC from Indian Consulate.

It mentions that I was born on so and so date to My parents (names) in this City as per the details present in the Passport.
It is just a copy and paste of details from passport.
Do you guys think, this is ok?

[Sandeep2011]

unfortunately this will not be sufficient. One of my friends who got a GC last month got a RFE on birth certificate issued by Indian Consulate in Houston. Try to get an affidavit from one of your parents. You'll find several templates for this affidavit on google.

Thanks to Q and others who responded to my earlier query. I was away for few days and didn't check this blog while I was away and now I am looking at 40 pages of comments. It is amazing the amount of response we have on this site. Keep it up.




QUOTE=nayekal;6419]I recently got a BC from Indian Consulate.

It mentions that I was born on so and so date to My parents (names) in this City as per the details present in the Passport.
It is just a copy and paste of details from passport.
Do you guys think, this is ok?[/QUOTE]

[TeddyKoochu]

Friends its a bit surprising why they should be issuing an RFE for Indian birth certificate. India is the most retrogressed country in both EB2 and Eb3 so by claiming country of birth as India all one is claiming is a chargeability of India if it were some other country (Even if were a retrogressed one) then obviously there would have been some benefit. However its just a technicality to have the documentation complete. Affidavits do work there are many successful examples.

[Sandeep2011]

Friends its a bit surprising why they should be issuing an RFE for Indian birth certificate. India is the most retrogressed country in both EB2 and Eb3 so by claiming country of birth as India all one is claiming is a chargeability of India if it were some other country (Even if were a retrogressed one) then obviously there would have been some benefit. However its just a technicality to have the documentation complete. Affidavits do work there are many successful examples.

It is just a question of what USCIS regards as a proper birth certificate. As per Indian law everyone who is born after 1969, their birth should have been registered with local Nagarpaalika or Nagar Nigam. That is why USCIS expects for people born in India after 1969 to have a proper birth certificate. In the absence of this certificate an affidavit from one of the parents is sufficient. This is what my lawyer has told me.

[nayekal]

unfortunately this will not be sufficient. One of my friends who got a GC last month got a RFE on birth certificate issued by Indian Consulate in Houston. Try to get an affidavit from one of your parents. You'll find several templates for this affidavit on google.

QUOTE=nayekal;6419]I recently got a BC from Indian Consulate.

It mentions that I was born on so and so date to My parents (names) in this City as per the details present in the Passport.
It is just a copy and paste of details from passport.
Do you guys think, this is ok?[/QUOTE]
Another problem is it is not on the Indian Consulate Letter Head and the header says
"To whom so ever it may concern" and at some where else it says BC.
Of course, it has a stamp with the official signature.

Thanks to your suggestion, I will get the affidavit from India.

[manipur]

Finally I am current after 4 years of wait. Thanks Q and feb 4s, this forum is fantastic.
I got some questions.
My mother's name is misspelled in Hindi, is it possible to get it corrected in English translation services.
Also do you have any link which has affidavit which can be used instead of birth certificate? My mother is here in US, Can I get it notarized in US or we need only Indian Notary services.

[Sandeep2011]

gchopeful,

I agree with what Nishant had to say on your questions. Regarding your birth certificate, when was it issued? Was it issued within a year of your birth? If not, please get an affidavit from one of your parents. This is what our company lawyer has told all of us who are from India. No harm in validating this with your lawyer now instead of getting a RFE later.


Replied below:
Congrats to everyone who is current for Oct. Though I think most of you would be documentarily qualified, I had some questions on the I-485 filing once PD is current. Note that my PD is Sep 2007, therefore I havent been able to even file I-485 yet, but need to be prepared.

1) How much time is available to file the I-485 once the PD becomes current e.g. if PD is current within Oct 11 VB, does it mean that the application can be submitted any time between Oct 1 - Oct 31? - or is it critical that the application reach USCIS on Oct 1st itself?

Your PD should be current when they receive your application (or postmarked, not sure, can anyone else enlighten), this is my understanding. the VB is for a month, so Oct 1st to Oct 31st, anytime it can reach. Now when you are in October, the November bulletin will be released, so if that bulletin says that the date is retrogressed, then your date won't be current in November. It is not necessary that it reaches on the 1st itself, however I have heard that the receipt date of the application may matter, especially when there is crunch time to release visas, i.e. visas are less, and demand span is more. So best to get it in as early as possible.

2) If there is a delay in medical evaluation, can the I-485 be submitted first just to get the foot in the door and the medical forms submitted later on?

You surely get RFE for medicals if they are incomplete or not provided, I have never heard of a case where you got directly denied. Please ask a lawyer for fool-proof answer. IMHO, we should get the medicals done, and not take a chance. I would be ready to drive 200 miles into another state or city if all the approved civil surgeons in my city are busy and can't give appointment.

3) I have copy of birth certificates which are in english and with accurate information. In this case, are affidavits still required or will the birth certificates suffice?

You don't need affidavit.

[Jan2008]

gchopeful,

I agree with what Nishant had to say on your questions. Regarding your birth certificate, when was it issued? Was it issued within a year of your birth? If not, please get an affidavit from one of your parents. This is what our company lawyer has told all of us who are from India. No harm in validating this with your lawyer now instead of getting a RFE later.

gchopeful,
My father had requested my birth certificate from the municipal corp about 5 years ago. It's in english and with full information regarding my parents. Do I still need to ask my parents to provide an affidavit? I will reach out to my lawyer to get further details but in the meantime if you can shed some light here that will be great.

Also, how soon can you get your shots for the medical records during filing? Do these shots have to be taken within certain timeframe of applying for I-485? Since my pd is Jan 6th 2008 and I hoping to be able to file I485 in December 2013 FY, I want to keep everything ready just in case. Please advice.

[Eb2_Dec07]

Gurus , please advise . My PD is in Dec 07 EB2 Ind . But my mother's middle name is spelled incorrectly in my birth certificate . Will it cause any problems . Birth certificate is from Ind and in English . Please advise .

[nishant2200]

There are two dates on certificate generally. Date of registeration and date of issue. In my case date of registeration is around date of birth, but date of issue is newer as I had it re-issued to me so that I get in their latest format which is bi-lingual. My lawyer said to me either of the two dates won't matter, only need birth certificate.


gchopeful,

I agree with what Nishant had to say on your questions. Regarding your birth certificate, when was it issued? Was it issued within a year of your birth? If not, please get an affidavit from one of your parents. This is what our company lawyer has told all of us who are from India. No harm in validating this with your lawyer now instead of getting a RFE later.

[Sandeep2011]

This is what my company lawyer had said, i am quoting him verbatim "the date of registration of your birth has to be within one year of your birth. This is in line with accepted legal practices in US. If your birth was not registered within a year of your birth, you'll need an affidavit from one of your parents or from one of your close relatives in case your parents have deceased. India passed its birth registration act in 1969, so anyone who was born after this date must have a birth certificate as per Indian law. If you do not have a birth certificate at all, please call my office to discuss the exact wording on affidavit." IMHO, for those of us whose PD is between July 15'07 and March'08, we should reach out to our respective lawyers to discuss this. Different lawyers have different takes on this as you can see from what my lawyer had to say vs Nishant's lawyer.


There are two dates on certificate generally. Date of registeration and date of issue. In my case date of registeration is around date of birth, but date of issue is newer as I had it re-issued to me so that I get in their latest format which is bi-lingual. My lawyer said to me either of the two dates won't matter, only need birth certificate.

[nishant2200]

That's very good suggestion. Also no harm in getting any affidavits from right now so that our old parents or siblings don't have to run around for us at last moment. RFE response time is generally 30 days I think out of which a week sometimes get lost in postal transit to lawyer's office.

In my case, my mother's name has 'ben' appended in birth certificate, and my dad has 'kumar' everywhere, but I only used without these tags in passport and my US records. So I have already kept ready, 'one and same person' affidavits from them both, as well as letter from school verifying my name, date of birth, place of birth, parent's name, in their records. In fact might be overkill, but am also thinking to get birth affidavits in advance.

All this just advance preparation for response to RFE, will not provide with application. As per both my lawyer and question asked by me on Ron Gotcher's forum, very low chance of this level of scrutiny. But a chance is a chance.

This is what my company lawyer had said, i am quoting him verbatim "the date of registration of your birth has to be within one year of your birth. This is in line with accepted legal practices in US. If your birth was not registered within a year of your birth, you'll need an affidavit from one of your parents or from one of your close relatives in case your parents have deceased. India passed its birth registration act in 1969, so anyone who was born after this date must have a birth certificate as per Indian law. If you do not have a birth certificate at all, please call my office to discuss the exact wording on affidavit." IMHO, for those of us whose PD is between July 15'07 and March'08, we should reach out to our respective lawyers to discuss this. Different lawyers have different takes on this as you can see from what my lawyer had to say vs Nishant's lawyer.

[gcoracle]

Guys don't sweat it out in getting the birth certificates. Don't trouble your parents/relatives/friends. Who has time and patience to run around? Try using services of yourmaninindia.com or alliedlegalonline.com (I used these guys and got my NABC in two weeks). Just google, there are several others. If you can't get a birth certificate that is not registered within a year of birth, get NABC and parents/relatives affidavits. I693 is valid only for a year, if you are not current then don't bother yet but go to your regular doctor and get blood work done for the following vaccines http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3384cc5222ff5210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=6abe6d26d17df110VgnVCM1000004718190a RCRD. Get vaccinated only for those that are required and take that report when you go to get your I693 filled. And make sure to call several clinics and ask what they charge, from my experience they range from $150 to $450 per person.

[soggadu]

That's very good suggestion. Also no harm in getting any affidavits from right now so that our old parents or siblings don't have to run around for us at last moment. RFE response time is generally 30 days I think out of which a week sometimes get lost in postal transit to lawyer's office.

In my case, my mother's name has 'ben' appended in birth certificate, and my dad has 'kumar' everywhere, but I only used without these tags in passport and my US records. So I have already kept ready, 'one and same person' affidavits from them both, as well as letter from school verifying my name, date of birth, place of birth, parent's name, in their records. In fact might be overkill, but am also thinking to get birth affidavits in advance.

All this just advance preparation for response to RFE, will not provide with application. As per both my lawyer and question asked by me on Ron Gotcher's forum, very low chance of this level of scrutiny. But a chance is a chance.

i did the same thing nishant... got my affidavits 2 months back...once the affidavits are made, they are good for ever... my problem was, i have my name as SoggaduK in birth certifcate but original name is like Soggadu Kapoor. Also, my wife got her BC recently ( registered in 2008 ), so i guess it is better to get a affidavit for her too right?

[nishant2200]

i did the same thing nishant... got my affidavits 2 months back...once the affidavits are made, they are good for ever... my problem was, i have my name as SoggaduK in birth certifcate but original name is like Soggadu Kapoor. Also, my wife got her BC recently ( registered in 2008 ), so i guess it is better to get a affidavit for her too right?

sogaddu, after the recent information provided by Sandeep, I did some digging on the internet, and found this:
http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/

this article talks about situation wherein date of registration is later than one year after birth.

So I guess we might need it.

What an hassle! I think they need the birth certificate to prove country of chargeability, why would one lie about being born in India, it's only going to push us into years of waiting!

[nishant2200]

sogaddu, after the recent information provided by Sandeep, I did some digging on the internet, and found this:
http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/

this article talks about situation wherein date of registration is later than one year after birth.

So I guess we might need it.

What an hassle! I think they need the birth certificate to prove country of chargeability, why would one lie about being born in India, it's only going to push us into years of waiting!

dude sogaddu, wov, I just happened to see my wife's BC, and it also has a date of registration of 2005. more affidavits coming my way then. thank you sogaddu and sandeep!

[psczd4]

One of my suggested to me about this forum and for the past few days I’ve going through the posts- I liked this forum very much.- Thanks to all the folks.

My EB2-PD is August 2007 and based on the current movement in the bulletin, I’m hoping to be in the line soon to file for my I 485. I went through I 485 documentation requirements and my question is related to the marriage / divorce certificate. I’m a divorcee since September 2004- was married in India and got my divorce in the US Court. This being my case, do I still need to provide both the marriage and divorce certificate? I don’t think it is necessary but thought of running this question through this forum for any thoughts or suggestions.
Thanks,

[gchopeful123]

My date of registration is within a year...phew !!! (though the date if reissue is newer)



That's very good suggestion. Also no harm in getting any affidavits from right now so that our old parents or siblings don't have to run around for us at last moment. RFE response time is generally 30 days I think out of which a week sometimes get lost in postal transit to lawyer's office.

In my case, my mother's name has 'ben' appended in birth certificate, and my dad has 'kumar' everywhere, but I only used without these tags in passport and my US records. So I have already kept ready, 'one and same person' affidavits from them both, as well as letter from school verifying my name, date of birth, place of birth, parent's name, in their records. In fact might be overkill, but am also thinking to get birth affidavits in advance.

All this just advance preparation for response to RFE, will not provide with application. As per both my lawyer and question asked by me on Ron Gotcher's forum, very low chance of this level of scrutiny. But a chance is a chance.




This is what my company lawyer had said, i am quoting him verbatim "the date of registration of your birth has to be within one year of your birth. This is in line with accepted legal practices in US. If your birth was not registered within a year of your birth, you'll need an affidavit from one of your parents or from one of your close relatives in case your parents have deceased. India passed its birth registration act in 1969, so anyone who was born after this date must have a birth certificate as per Indian law. If you do not have a birth certificate at all, please call my office to discuss the exact wording on affidavit." IMHO, for those of us whose PD is between July 15'07 and March'08, we should reach out to our respective lawyers to discuss this. Different lawyers have different takes on this as you can see from what my lawyer had to say vs Nishant's lawyer.

[aaron385]

in iindia as well as in USA ... i have affidavits on plane paper. No stamp paper needed (confirmed with our company immigration specialist). Yes you can go to any notary... amscot/ups etc.

I don't have my name on original Birth Certificate and original BC is in Hindi language.


Do I need to get my original BC (w/o name) translated in English? Who should sign that translation?

Do I need two separate affidavits from my Mother and Father or can I get one combined affidavited signed by both of them?

[skpanda]

I don't have my name on original Birth Certificate and original BC is in Hindi language.


Do I need to get my original BC (w/o name) translated in English? Who should sign that translation?

Do I need two separate affidavits from my Mother and Father or can I get one combined affidavited signed by both of them?





1st item - Not sure. You may have to check with an expert or USCIS directions. I know for sure that if you have affidavits you do not need BC.

2nd item - SSeparate. One each.

[makmohan]

This may or may not be a related question. Apologies if it is not.

My PD is April 2008 which is (at least) 2 solid years away from becoming current. I have started my part-time school and need to be up-to-date with my immunization as part of their compliance. Looks like I will have to get MMR, Tetanus, Hep B shots among the others. This also is a requirement for vaccine history required during AOS (485) after my PD becomes current.

If I take the shots now, assuming that my PD gets current in 2 more years, will I have to take shots again in 2 yrs? Is there any validity on these shots or do they expire? If I am taking shots now, I don't want to take shots again in 2yrs because they expire. Hopefully taking shots now will help me avoiding any delays when I file for AOS.

Any help is appreciated,
M

[TeddyKoochu]

This may or may not be a related question. Apologies if it is not.

My PD is April 2008 which is (at least) 2 solid years away from becoming current. I have started my part-time school and need to be up-to-date with my immunization as part of their compliance. Looks like I will have to get MMR, Tetanus, Hep B shots among the others. This also is a requirement for vaccine history required during AOS (485) after my PD becomes current.

If I take the shots now, assuming that my PD gets current in 2 more years, will I have to take shots again in 2 yrs? Is there any validity on these shots or do they expire? If I am taking shots now, I don't want to take shots again in 2yrs because they expire. Hopefully taking shots now will help me avoiding any delays when I file for AOS.

Any help is appreciated,
M

Refer to the following link for details.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=eb1f3591ec04d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD

The exam results are valid for a year only but the vaccination record should really be valid forever.

[nishant2200]

My cousin told me that Kaiser Permanante does the vaccinations for free if you are a member.

I am not in Kaiser insurance, but I am guessing many people in california, or wherever kaiser is, might be, so it's worth asking. Again only for vaccinations, I am not saying to get TB exam or other blood tests etc done. Only talking about page 4 of form I-693, which is section 5. Vaccinations


Refer to the following link for details.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=eb1f3591ec04d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD

The exam results are valid for a year only but the vaccination record should really be valid forever.

[soggadu]

This may or may not be a related question. Apologies if it is not.

My PD is April 2008 which is (at least) 2 solid years away from becoming current. I have started my part-time school and need to be up-to-date with my immunization as part of their compliance. Looks like I will have to get MMR, Tetanus, Hep B shots among the others. This also is a requirement for vaccine history required during AOS (485) after my PD becomes current.

If I take the shots now, assuming that my PD gets current in 2 more years, will I have to take shots again in 2 yrs? Is there any validity on these shots or do they expire? If I am taking shots now, I don't want to take shots again in 2yrs because they expire. Hopefully taking shots now will help me avoiding any delays when I file for AOS.

Any help is appreciated,
M

Mohan pyaare... imho, you need to get vaccines just once unlike flu shots and maintain the records. When u r ready for 485, submit it to your doc... also the doc will know from your initial blood work... so no tensions...hey good luck in school...ek din tum jaroor collector banoogeeeeeeee.....

[soggadu]

My cousin told me that Kaiser Permanante does the vaccinations for free if you are a member.

I am not in Kaiser insurance, but I am guessing many people in california, or wherever kaiser is, might be, so it's worth asking. Again only for vaccinations, I am not saying to get TB exam or other blood tests etc done. Only talking about page 4 of form I-693, which is section 5. Vaccinations

hey... Cant we get free vaccines at government hospital or something... just checking to get these done...what say you guys...

[nishant2200]

hey... Cant we get free vaccines at government hospital or something... just checking to get these done...what say you guys...

I know that you can check if your county has public health clinic which offer them cheap, not free. There are discounted prices further if you belong to low income group in these public health clinics.

I am not sure but only reason I didn't go for all these so far is, I am presuming the civil surgeon will do some blood test to find out what vaccines I really need. I don't have any proof of what vaccines I have. I myself need guidance on this, do the civil surgeons or vaccine clinics just blindly give you whatever is possible, or do they find out somehow, which you already have and dont need.

[soggadu]

I know that you can check if your county has public health clinic which offer them cheap, not free. There are discounted prices further if you belong to low income group in these public health clinics.

I am not sure but only reason I didn't go for all these so far is, I am presuming the civil surgeon will do some blood test to find out what vaccines I really need. I don't have any proof of what vaccines I have. I myself need guidance on this, do the civil surgeons or vaccine clinics just blindly give you whatever is possible, or do they find out somehow, which you already have and dont need.

ok...

Gang of people... please suggest any good doctor in central jersey for this in ur experience...

[evoori]

Can anyone who is already greened throw some light on timeline..how much time does it take to get blood results get and then the new vaccinations.. what is the best route one can adapt for this ? My PD is Sep 07 and I was wondering should I start looking into it.. after BC, I think this is gonna be biggest of headache..

hey... Cant we get free vaccines at government hospital or something... just checking to get these done...what say you guys...

[gchopeful123]

Here's my plan of action. I have verified from a friend that this will work. I am all set with part 1 for myself and family.

1) Go to your primary physician (covered by your company/personal insurance) and tell him/her to do a blood test to check the titers for the MMR, Tdap & Varicella. Based on the blood report,if the doctor finds that you really need the vaccines, you can take the vaccine in his/her office. This is COVERED by insurance since he/her is primary physician and NOT the civil surgeon. So no need to go to county hospital etc for cheap vaccines. Get a note from doctor that you have been given these vaccines on that particular date. Also, keep a copy of blood report. Once you get these you are set, there is no time limit/expiration for these reports.

2) When you are ready to apply for 485, call the civil surgeon office to book an appt. Let them know that you have proof of vaccinations. Your bill from the civil surgeon will be considerably reduced since you already have the proof that you have all required vaccinations. If the surgeon insists that you need to do another blood report for titers,etc or if he insists on giving you vaccines again then he is a crook. Better avoid.



I know that you can check if your county has public health clinic which offer them cheap, not free. There are discounted prices further if you belong to low income group in these public health clinics.

I am not sure but only reason I didn't go for all these so far is, I am presuming the civil surgeon will do some blood test to find out what vaccines I really need. I don't have any proof of what vaccines I have. I myself need guidance on this, do the civil surgeons or vaccine clinics just blindly give you whatever is possible, or do they find out somehow, which you already have and dont need.



hey... Cant we get free vaccines at government hospital or something... just checking to get these done...what say you guys...

[kd2008]

Be careful about when you get your vaccination shots and do your TB test.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/vac-admin/downloads/contraindications-guide-508.pdf

Goto page 14, Note 52:


Note 52:Measles vaccination may temporarily suppress tuberculin reactivity. MMR vaccine may be given after, or on the same day as, TB testing. If MMR has been given recently, postpone the TB test until 4-6 weeks after administration of MMR. If giving MMR simultaneously with tuberculin skin test, use the Mantoux test, not multiple puncture tests, because the latter, if results are positive, require confirmation (and confirmation would then have to be postponed 4-6 weeks).

Don't be penny wise pound foolish to skimp a few bucks out your pocket and get the vaccination reimbursed through insurance. The civil surgeon in my town said they won't file and deal with insurance claim. If I get the shots done with my primary physician then they are not responsible if the medical report they write is incomplete etc.

If your PD is long ways away from being current, then I guess this is not an issue.

[28thJune2007]

All you need is proof that vaccination is given to you. Even if you have it from India, It would work. I am talking from personal experience. I just got my form I 693 done.

I have one question for the Guru's or anyone else who may have noticed this:

I have varicella history. MY doctor asked me the age when I had it. In the form he put VH but also a date in the date received column as (01/01/1988, 1988 is birth year plus the age I had varicella). When I asked the assistant she said the system automatically generate this date. Did anyone else also had the same experience. I thought they just need to put VH.

[soggadu]

Here's my plan of action. I have verified from a friend that this will work. I am all set with part 1 for myself and family.

1) Go to your primary physician (covered by your company/personal insurance) and tell him/her to do a blood test to check the titers for the MMR, etc. Based on the blood report,if the doctor finds that you really need the vaccines, you can take the vaccine in his/her office. This is COVERED by insurance since he/her is primary physician and NOT the civil surgeon. So no need to go to county hospital etc for cheap vaccines. Get a note from doctor that you have been given these vaccines on that particular date. Also, keep a copy of blood report. Once you get these you are set, there is no time limit/expiration for these reports.

2) When you are ready to apply for 485, call the civil surgeon office to book an appt. Let them know that you have proof of vaccinations. Your bill from the civil surgeon will be considerably reduced since you already have the proof that you have all required vaccinations. If the surgeon insists that you need to do another blood report for titers,etc or if he insists on giving you vaccines again then he is a crook. Better avoid.

thank you hopeful bhai...can you please tell in detail what i need to ask my primary physician ( check the titers for the MMR, etc? ) is this question ok? or anything else needed? please spoon feed me on this one...

[28thJune2007]

1988 is my Year of birth + Age I got Varicella

[Monica12]

All you need is proof that vaccination is given to you. Even if you have it from India, It would work. I am talking from personal experience. I just got my form I 693 done.

I have one question for the Guru's or anyone else who may have noticed this:

I have varicella history. MY doctor asked me the age when I had it. In the form he put VH but also a date in the date received column as (01/01/1988, 1988 is birth year plus the age I had varicella). When I asked the assistant she said the system automatically generate this date. Did anyone else also had the same experience. I thought they just need to put VH.
Yes, I agree with this.. If your vaccination records are from India..it will work. I remember submitting some records from my Doc in India

[nishant2200]

I just called up a civil surgeon office, told them I don't have any vaccination records and they told me that:
- once you setup appointment, the first day they will do physical exam (damn I remember those from school days... ouch), TB skin test, and blood work. The blood work will include finding out what vaccines I might need.
- After two days, I go back to office, they see the TB results on my skin, as well as they get the blood work results. The doctor further can proceed on what I need to do based on these.

He quoted me 250 dollars, plus additional for X-ray or vaccinations. How much for that, they said, once you are into this, you can talk with doctor.

She was asking if I could come on this wednesday, and I had to regretfully tell her, not yet :(

[gchopeful123]

Hey Soggadu,
Based on the information I have, for our age category we need the MMR, TDAP and Varicella titers. If you have these within your blood, you dont need a vaccine. If not, then you need to take the vaccine. I am sure abt these 3, not sure if more are required recently. Maybe someone who has done their immigration medical with the civil surgeon recently mention if more are needed.

EDIT: Did some googling and found this: http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/exams/ti/civil/vaccination-civil-technical-instructions.html
Particularly, look at the example : "For example, if the applicant is 35 years of age, then he or she is required to receive tetanus and diphtheria toxoids vaccine (Td) or diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis antigen vaccine (Tdap), MMR, and varicella (if no history of varicella disease)."

Also -
"The civil surgeon may refer the applicant to another health-care provider to have the required vaccinations administered. In such a case, the civil surgeon must not complete the form until the applicant returns with a written record from the referral health-care provider that notes the vaccines administered and the dates of administration."

The table on this site is very useful for undertstanding what is applicable for our age category:

http://www.drmones.com/miamiimmigrationdoctor.html



thank you hopeful bhai...can you please tell in detail what i need to ask my primary physician ( check the titers for the MMR, etc? ) is this question ok? or anything else needed? please spoon feed me on this one...



Here's my plan of action. I have verified from a friend that this will work. I am all set with part 1 for myself and family.

1) Go to your primary physician (covered by your company/personal insurance) and tell him/her to do a blood test to check the titers for the MMR, etc. Based on the blood report,if the doctor finds that you really need the vaccines, you can take the vaccine in his/her office. This is COVERED by insurance since he/her is primary physician and NOT the civil surgeon. So no need to go to county hospital etc for cheap vaccines. Get a note from doctor that you have been given these vaccines on that particular date. Also, keep a copy of blood report. Once you get these you are set, there is no time limit/expiration for these reports.

2) When you are ready to apply for 485, call the civil surgeon office to book an appt. Let them know that you have proof of vaccinations. Your bill from the civil surgeon will be considerably reduced since you already have the proof that you have all required vaccinations. If the surgeon insists that you need to do another blood report for titers,etc or if he insists on giving you vaccines again then he is a crook. Better avoid.

[gchopeful123]

Hey Nishant,

Based on what KD2008 mentioned here, it is better to get the vaccinations done by primary physician well in advance instead of waiting till the last moment.




Be careful about when you get your vaccination shots and do your TB test.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/vac...-guide-508.pdf

Goto page 14, Note 52:

Note 52:Measles vaccination may temporarily suppress tuberculin reactivity. MMR vaccine may be given after, or on the same day as, TB testing. If MMR has been given recently, postpone the TB test until 4-6 weeks after administration of MMR. If giving MMR simultaneously with tuberculin skin test, use the Mantoux test, not multiple puncture tests, because the latter, if results are positive, require confirmation (and confirmation would then have to be postponed 4-6 weeks).
Don't be penny wise pound foolish to skimp a few bucks out your pocket and get the vaccination reimbursed through insurance. The civil surgeon in my town said they won't file and deal with insurance claim. If I get the shots done with my primary physician then they are not responsible if the medical report they write is incomplete etc.

If your PD is long ways away from being current, then I guess this is not an issue.


I just called up a civil surgeon office, told them I don't have any vaccination records and they told me that:
- once you setup appointment, the first day they will do physical exam (damn I remember those from school days... ouch), TB skin test, and blood work. The blood work will include finding out what vaccines I might need.
- After two days, I go back to office, they see the TB results on my skin, as well as they get the blood work results. The doctor further can proceed on what I need to do based on these.

He quoted me 250 dollars, plus additional for X-ray or vaccinations. How much for that, they said, once you are into this, you can talk with doctor.

She was asking if I could come on this wednesday, and I had to regretfully tell her, not yet :(

[soggadu]

I just called up a civil surgeon office, told them I don't have any vaccination records and they told me that:
- once you setup appointment, the first day they will do physical exam (damn I remember those from school days... ouch), TB skin test, and blood work. The blood work will include finding out what vaccines I might need.
- After two days, I go back to office, they see the TB results on my skin, as well as they get the blood work results. The doctor further can proceed on what I need to do based on these.

He quoted me 250 dollars, plus additional for X-ray or vaccinations. How much for that, they said, once you are into this, you can talk with doctor.

She was asking if I could come on this wednesday, and I had to regretfully tell her, not yet :(

I just read the last line and was thinking yaaa why not..... :-):-)

on a serious note, why don't we follow what hopeful bhai have suggested and go through primary doc..... Would be free right...

hey N.... amour pd is in n for NOVEMBER right?..

[gchopeful123]

Yes - it is free. Fully covered by insurance with the primary physician (Disclaimer: Check with your insurance first. I had confirmed with them before going to the clinic). Also, have a look at my previous 2 posts above, made some edits/updates.


I just read the last line and was thinking yaaa why not..... :-):-)

on a serious note, why don't we follow what hopeful bhai have suggested and go through primary doc..... Would be free right...

hey N.... amour pd is in n for NOVEMBER right?..



I just called up a civil surgeon office, told them I don't have any vaccination records and they told me that:
- once you setup appointment, the first day they will do physical exam (damn I remember those from school days... ouch), TB skin test, and blood work. The blood work will include finding out what vaccines I might need.
- After two days, I go back to office, they see the TB results on my skin, as well as they get the blood work results. The doctor further can proceed on what I need to do based on these.

He quoted me 250 dollars, plus additional for X-ray or vaccinations. How much for that, they said, once you are into this, you can talk with doctor.

She was asking if I could come on this wednesday, and I had to regretfully tell her, not yet

[soggadu]

moderators can you please collect the posts of gchopeful and create a new thread for it.... Very useful information to get vaccines from your primary physician....

[nishant2200]

Sounds very reasonable, although I would say then that we should ask the primary care physician also to do the blood work first to find out which vaccines we really need. I am thinking that it might be bad for health if we take double vaccine at this age. Also the civil surgeon may know certain caveats about the timing of the vaccines which the primary care physician would not, I am just throwing out my nervous theories here, since the dates may go back after a month, and you really need to do everything in the one month your dates are current.

Jonty Rhodes, and other physicians in the house, guys, let us know your thoughts or input.


Hey Nishant,

Based on what KD2008 mentioned here, it is better to get the vaccinations done by primary physician well in advance instead of waiting till the last moment.

[makmohan]

Refer to the following link for details.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=eb1f3591ec04d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
The exam results are valid for a year only but the vaccination record should really be valid forever.


Mohan pyaare... imho, you need to get vaccines just once unlike flu shots and maintain the records. When u r ready for 485, submit it to your doc... also the doc will know from your initial blood work... so no tensions...hey good luck in school...ek din tum jaroor collector banoogeeeeeeee.....

Thanks very much, Teddy and Suggadu. As always you are very helpful!

[gchopeful123]

Agreed. I had meant that - get vaccinations done from PP only if you need them based on blood report (refer Part 1 from my original post on this topic). In any case, since the day I have completed Part 1, I am very relaxed. One more item checked off. My PD is Sep 2007, so never know when my day would come to file. The lesser things to worry about, the better. In fact, I would suggest everyone with PD 2007 date to get started on this. Not sure abt other states, luckily in NJ, most primary physicians are available on weekends :)

Not sure what you mean by caveats though. All they need is a proof that you are immune/had vaccines for MMR,Tdap, Varicella. This can be from any date/location (records from your childhood in home country, recently adminstered in US,etc). Once you provide the proof, the civil surgeon has to accept them.


Sounds very reasonable, although I would say then that we should ask the primary care physician also to do the blood work first to find out which vaccines we really need. I am thinking that it might be bad for health if we take double vaccine at this age. Also the civil surgeon may know certain caveats about the timing of the vaccines which the primary care physician would not, I am just throwing out my nervous theories here, since the dates may go back after a month, and you really need to do everything in the one month your dates are current.

Jonty Rhodes, and other physicians in the house, guys, let us know your thoughts or input.



Hey Nishant,

Based on what KD2008 mentioned here, it is better to get the vaccinations done by primary physician well in advance instead of waiting till the last moment.

[nishant2200]

This part is confusing. Teddy's link says the exam is valid for 12 months. So can someone just get it done and get the sealed envelope right now, and apply 4 months later when he gets current.


Sounds very reasonable, although I would say then that we should ask the primary care physician also to do the blood work first to find out which vaccines we really need. I am thinking that it might be bad for health if we take double vaccine at this age. Also the civil surgeon may know certain caveats about the timing of the vaccines which the primary care physician would not, I am just throwing out my nervous theories here, since the dates may go back after a month, and you really need to do everything in the one month your dates are current.

Jonty Rhodes, and other physicians in the house, guys, let us know your thoughts or input.

[gchopeful123]

Let's not confuse the 12-month validity with the vaccination validity. There is no expiration for the vaccinations adminstered. The 12-month expiration applies only for the civil surgeon report.

But to answer your question, yes - you are very much entitled to do that. The civil surgeon in my area provides appointments immediately so it's not much of an issue for me. But yes, if your civil surgeon does not provide immediate appts, it would be prudent to get this done before hand, as long as you are reasonably sure that your dates would be current within the next year.


This part is confusing. Teddy's link says the exam is valid for 12 months. So can someone just get it done and get the sealed envelope right now, and apply 4 months later when he gets current.



Sounds very reasonable, although I would say then that we should ask the primary care physician also to do the blood work first to find out which vaccines we really need. I am thinking that it might be bad for health if we take double vaccine at this age. Also the civil surgeon may know certain caveats about the timing of the vaccines which the primary care physician would not, I am just throwing out my nervous theories here, since the dates may go back after a month, and you really need to do everything in the one month your dates are current.

[Monica12]

umm.. another thought...make the appointment with Civil surgeon if it's hard to get one and you can always cancel it later if dates don't become current..he is not going to charge you :)

[Monica12]

Hey Soggadu,
Based on the information I have, for our age category we need the MMR, TDAP and Varicella titers. If you have these within your blood, you dont need a vaccine. If not, then you need to take the vaccine. I am sure abt these 3, not sure if more are required recently. Maybe someone who has done their immigration medical with the civil surgeon recently mention if more are needed.

EDIT: Did some googling and found this: http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/exams/ti/civil/vaccination-civil-technical-instructions.html
Particularly, look at the example : "For example, if the applicant is 35 years of age, then he or she is required to receive tetanus and diphtheria toxoids vaccine (Td) or diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis antigen vaccine (Tdap), MMR, and varicella (if no history of varicella disease)."

Also -
"The civil surgeon may refer the applicant to another health-care provider to have the required vaccinations administered. In such a case, the civil surgeon must not complete the form until the applicant returns with a written record from the referral health-care provider that notes the vaccines administered and the dates of administration."

The table on this site is very useful for undertstanding what is applicable for our age category:

http://www.drmones.com/miamiimmigrationdoctor.html
Tetanus is good to get even if you are less than 35 yrs old ( just in case you are walking bare-feet and get an old nail in your foot LOL!)...when I had submitted mine I was much younger than 35, still got it then :) I wonder now if the doc had asked me to get it ( I am %*&% scared of shots, so he probably did).

Check with the civil surgeon before making the appointment if he will give you all the req vaccinations. In most cases, they do and dont think there will be a need to go to another doc for them.

The only time there will be a need to go to another office is if one tests positive for TB skin test (PPD). In this case, an x-ray will be needed to rule out TB. This happens to lots of Indians, as in India it's very common to get exposed to someone who has TB at some some points in our lives. So, dont panic if you wake up with a huge red rash on your arm after the TB skin test . It's just tuberculin working it's magic :)

Also, tetanus shots are valid for 5 yrs , I think.

[chikitsak]

Tetanus shot has to be within the last 10 hears. Some people are allergic to PPD antigen and they can get a TB spot test which is a blood test. If any of these are positive then you need to get a Chest Xray and "start" Anti-tuberculosis treatment if the chest X ray has any blemishes. Also a Blood test for syphilis is done.

If you are not sure of your vaccination or do not have the record, blood test can be done to determine whether you need the vaccine or not..... alternatively you can just get the vaccine. Of course all this is much cheaper if you can get this done through your PCP in prep for the civil surgeon. All except the Syphilis test and the TB spot test.

[rinku1112]

Guys,

I just want to share my experience with Immigration Physicals as I see some discussion about which vaccines to take. I went to the closest civil surgeon listed on USCIS website after recent VB was out.

Basically they asked me to get the following done:

1) Tetanus immunization. - $48
2) MMR immunization. - $80
3) TB skin test. - $20
4) Blood work to determine there is no Syphilis. - $12
5) Physical exam. - $140

All other vaccines (polio, rotavirus, etc...) except Varicella vaccine are not needed for a typical EB immigrant age group and not needed. In case (3) is positive then a chest x-ray is needed, and probably some other tests that cost more... but I don't have this experience to comment.

Note: If you had Chicken Pox (most Indian kids do) in childhood then mention this as a verbal confirmation will eliminate requirement for taking Varicella vaccine, else this will be administered as well - cost is $41. All costs are per person.

The CS office did not accept insurance but my employer foot the bill for us. No harm in checking with your employer if they will foot the above cost. The prices above may vary by state/region in US (I am in south), but still cost of $1000/$2000 as some mentioned earlier on this thread for this sounds too much. Also in most cases your employer will foot this bill.



Cheers :cool:

[Monica12]

Tetanus shot has to be within the last 10 hears. Some people are allergic to PPD antigen and they can get a TB spot test which is a blood test. If any of these are positive then you need to get a Chest Xray and "start" Anti-tuberculosis treatment if the chest X ray has any blemishes. Also a Blood test for syphilis is done.

If you are not sure of your vaccination or do not have the record, blood test can be done to determine whether you need the vaccine or not..... alternatively you can just get the vaccine. Of course all this is much cheaper if you can get this done through your PCP in prep for the civil surgeon. All except the Syphilis test and the TB spot test.

For general purposes, tetanus is valid for 10 yrs but for immigration purposes, it's 5 yrs ( unless this rule changed in the last many yrs)

[Monica12]

Rinku, chikitsak..great info!

[GCDespo]

Nishant, Did you try your school for any records?

This weekend I went for physical and they chared 235 $ for the examiniation fee and DDP. All the vaccinations records from my earlier check up are used.So no additional fee charged for the vaccinations

Passed the TB test and got the paper work today.

[soggadu]

Nishant, Did you try your school for any records?

This weekend I went for physical and they chared 235 $ for the examiniation fee and DDP. All the vaccinations records from my earlier check up are used.So no additional fee charged for the vaccinations

Passed the TB test and got the paper work today.

despo bhai...please tell me how I can get records from my us university...

[nishant2200]

No one understood on phone. The university is like 40 miles away drive with heck lot traffic. I will just let the doctor do the bloodwork to find what vaccines needed.


Nishant, Did you try your school for any records?

This weekend I went for physical and they chared 235 $ for the examiniation fee and DDP. All the vaccinations records from my earlier check up are used.So no additional fee charged for the vaccinations

Passed the TB test and got the paper work today.

[makmohan]

This part is confusing. Teddy's link says the exam is valid for 12 months. So can someone just get it done and get the sealed envelope right now, and apply 4 months later when he gets current.

Nishant, after going thr all the resources, I feel that expiration is valid for tests and not for vaccines. That too because I don't have record for vaccines I had in childhood. If someone has that report even it will be waived it seems.

[RRRRRR]

Hi Kd2008,

Thanks for posting this URL and the Note 52 which says "If giving MMR simultaneously with tuberculin skin test, use the Mantoux test, not multiple puncture tests,because the latter, if results are positive, require confirmation (and confirmation would then have to be postponed 4-6 weeks).".

IN USA Mantoux test is performed and the multiple puncture test was performed earlier in UK based on this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantoux_test

The guide is written considering all the tests available in different countries. So i guess we should be ok considering that MAntoux Test is performed in USA. So even if we are getting the TB and the MMR done from our primary on the same day or at a later day it should be ok as this note is not relevant for Mantoux Test.

I guess the take away is to confirm with your primary if they are doing the Mantoux or not. Your thoughts on this.

Thanks







Be careful about when you get your vaccination shots and do your TB test.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/vac-admin/downloads/contraindications-guide-508.pdf

Goto page 14, Note 52:



Don't be penny wise pound foolish to skimp a few bucks out your pocket and get the vaccination reimbursed through insurance. The civil surgeon in my town said they won't file and deal with insurance claim. If I get the shots done with my primary physician then they are not responsible if the medical report they write is incomplete etc.

If your PD is long ways away from being current, then I guess this is not an issue.

[RRRRRR]

Hi makmohan,

Please look at the following link which explains the validity of the results very clearly. Hope this will help
http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/adjustmentofstatus/medical-examination.html




Nishant, after going thr all the resources, I feel that expiration is valid for tests and not for vaccines. That too because I don't have record for vaccines I had in childhood. If someone has that report even it will be waived it seems.

[srd4gc]

Hi All, great info here on vaccinations...thanks!!!

My PD is 11/15/07...is it too early or good time to start looking into getting medicals done? pls advise.

[soggadu]

hey all... i guess gchopefulls two part vaccination theory is still the best option for people like me, N and srd4gc who are >= oct 07...
I see lot of people confusing with this...
1. The medical tests are valid for 1 year
2. Vaccinations you take are valid till you get into heaven ( make sure u carry a history report of vaccinations ;-) )

khel khatam dukaan bhand...

gchopeful,

Which doc did u visit in jersey?? I live in central jersey too...

[gchopeful123]

Hey Soggadu,

Good to know that you are also in "apun ka desi area" :)

For PCP, i followed my friends advise and went to Dr. Hitesh R Patel, MD at 1804 OAK TREE RD. Luckily he was within in-network for insurance. The reason I went there was they do blood tests and vaccinations in their office i.e you dont need to go to Quest diagnostics etc. I think most PCPs do this but some PCPs do not have this facility.



hey all... i guess gchopefulls two part vaccination theory is still the best option for people like me, N and srd4gc who are >= oct 07...
I see lot of people confusing with this...
1. The medical tests are valid for 1 year
2. Vaccinations you take are valid till you get into heaven ( make sure u carry a history report of vaccinations ;-) )

khel khatam dukaan bhand...

gchopeful,

Which doc did u visit in jersey?? I live in central jersey too...

[meso129]

Went to health department (me and spouse) and they gave all the necessary vaccines, for free, Good with vaccination when i get current

[gchopeful123]

Great..which ones did you take specifically?


Went to health department (me and spouse) and they gave all the necessary vaccines, for free, Good with vaccination when i get current

[evoori]

Tetanus shot has to be within the last 10 hears. Some people are allergic to PPD antigen and they can get a TB spot test which is a blood test. If any of these are positive then you need to get a Chest Xray and "start" Anti-tuberculosis treatment if the chest X ray has any blemishes. Also a Blood test for syphilis is done.

If you are not sure of your vaccination or do not have the record, blood test can be done to determine whether you need the vaccine or not..... alternatively you can just get the vaccine. Of course all this is much cheaper if you can get this done through your PCP in prep for the civil surgeon. All except the Syphilis test and the TB spot test.


If my understanding is correct, we can get all the vaccines from our PCP except Syphilis, TB spot test and Physicals. Why can't we have syphilis and TB spot test done at PCP too ??

[gchopeful123]

You can get these (Syphilis, TB spot test) done from your PCP too but it will be a waste of time. For these 2, the USCIS only recognizes tests administered by the Civil surgeon.


If my understanding is correct, we can get all the vaccines from our PCP except Syphilis, TB spot test and Physicals. Why can't we have syphilis and TB spot test done at PCP too ??

[evoori]

You can get these (Syphilis, TB spot test) done from your PCP too but it will be a waste of time. For these 2, the USCIS only recognizes tests administered by the Civil surgeon.

Thanks a ton.. I followed your advise and have appointment for PCP for my titers and flu shot (not sure whether is required or not but no harm in getting it done) next week.. My PD is Sep 2007 and want to be ready..
Seems like Civil surgeon is going to take major chunk of pie with Syphilis, TB spot test and Physicals..

[soggadu]

Thanks a ton.. I followed your advise and have appointment for PCP for my titers and flu shot (not sure whether is required or not but no harm in getting it done) next week.. My PD is Sep 2007 and want to be ready..
Seems like Civil surgeon is going to take major chunk of pie with Syphilis, TB spot test and Physicals..

evoori... r u from big ol NJ?

[soggadu]

Went to health department (me and spouse) and they gave all the necessary vaccines, for free, Good with vaccination when i get current

which state? how did u approach them... tell me all the gossip regarding this....

[meso129]

This was in Pennsylvania. If you live around you can as well visit and get the shots done. In fact they covered everything except Flu shots during the first dose, the second appointment was after a month and they gave flu shots as well. I have a followup appointment after 6 months again for 3rd dose (some vacs) to complete the course.

[meso129]

Will look it up and tell u later.
Great..which ones did you take specifically?

[evoori]

evoori... r u from big ol NJ?
Sorry, me in Dallas.. its Cowboys here..

[shivarajan]

Any civil surgeon recommendations around Seattle, WA?

[shivarajan]

Iam damm confused.
Can someone summarize what we can get done ahead of time with PCP (primary care physician)

So far I gathered we do these at pcp office,

1. tetanus proof else get shots
2. mmr (blood test) if 30+
3. titter (chicken pox, blood test)


At civil surgeons office,

1. Physical
2. Syphilis test (and vaccine if required later)
3. TB test (and followup if required later)
4. get forms filled


please confirm.

[03May07]

If someone has PPD skintest (TB) 5mm - negative, do they need to go for chest X ray?

I was told negative needn't go for Xray. But as per the I693 form, if 5mm or more need to get chest X ray (the form doesnt talk postive or negative). I'm confused, so can someone clarify?

(My local city health dept is doing MMR/tdap for free and TB test for $7. As a person not getting paid by vendor for past 6 months, I'm using this option).

[soggadu]

This was in Pennsylvania. If you live around you can as well visit and get the shots done. In fact they covered everything except Flu shots during the first dose, the second appointment was after a month and they gave flu shots as well. I have a followup appointment after 6 months again for 3rd dose (some vacs) to complete the course.

can people from NJ come and get these done? is there a website?

[soggadu]

If someone has PPD skintest (TB) 5mm - negative, do they need to go for chest X ray?

I was told negative needn't go for Xray. But as per the I693 form, if 5mm or more need to get chest X ray (the form doesnt talk postive or negative). I'm confused, so can someone clarify?

(My local city health dept is doing MMR/tdap for free and TB test for $7. As a person not getting paid by vendor for past 6 months, I'm using this option).

wow 6 months??

[srd4gc]

can anyone pls confirm this list put together by shivarajan? it would help me too.


Iam damm confused.
Can someone summarize what we can get done ahead of time with PCP (primary care physician)

So far I gathered we do these at pcp office,

1. tetanus proof else get shots
2. mmr (blood test) if 30+
3. titter (chicken pox, blood test)


At civil surgeons office,

1. Physical
2. Syphilis test (and vaccine if required later)
3. TB test (and followup if required later)
4. get forms filled


please confirm.

[meso129]

Hope this helps all those looking what vaccines are needed.

http://i52.tinypic.com/19ulwj.jpg

[evoori]

My take..

Iam damm confused.
Can someone summarize what we can get done ahead of time with PCP (primary care physician)

So far I gathered we do these at pcp office,

1. tetanus proof else get shots
aka Tetanus booster or Tdap is valid for 5 years for USCIS, for doctors they say you are fine for next 10 years
2. mmr (blood test) if 30+
I think it is for 1+ yrs old and again proof or blood test to verify or get shots
3. titter (chicken pox, blood test)
Varicella, proof or blood test to verify or get shots


At civil surgeons office,

1. Physical
2. Syphilis test (and vaccine if required later)
3. TB test (and followup if required later)
4. get forms filled


please confirm.

and everything looks good strategy.. many of my friends visited Surgeon directly who frankly told them to get vaccines from county camps and bring the proof

[meso129]

can people from NJ come and get these done? is there a website?

You may come i do not know if they will or won't entertain. Since you will be coming from NJ one tip is vaccination is done by appointments only so get that one ahead of time and show up for appointment.

Here is the website
http://health.montcopa.org/health/cwp/view,A,3,Q,29170.asp

[03May07]

wow 6 months??

Yeah man! 1.5 more weeks and I know vendor is going to go bankrupt...I came to know this lafda only this month. Basically I worked for free for 1/2 year. Sad that its happening at the end of my H1 saga. Another H1 exploitation.

[visagcinfo]

According to my attorney, all they need to file 485 is parents' affidavit for birth as the birth certificate was obtained recently. Attorney filed my PERM and I-140. They meant, all they need in addition to what they already have from me.



I am posting only w.r.t. getting the medical done before hand and my take is that it is a waste of money and time. The whole medical process is a straight forward process and there are plenty of registered medical practitioners out there in each city so if and when the time comes when your PD is current, you shoudl be able to get your medical done then. No use doing the medical before hand.
OIn the other hand pre preperation of the 485 filing document is a better time investing and makes sense cause i am sure at teh last minute thgere will be some missing document for which you need to rush around.

[srd4gc]

PlainSpeak, your last statement got me on my toes...just got the i485, i765, i693, i131 printouts...do we need any 485 supplements (i am on h1b)?
i have to look into the birth certificate thing more closely...my dad sent me a birth certificate in english...i guess our local municipality allowed to get BC for a small duration...would this suffice?



I am posting only w.r.t. getting the medical done before hand and my take is that it is a waste of money and time. The whole medical process is a straight forward process and there are plenty of registered medical practitioners out there in each city so if and when the time comes when your PD is current, you shoudl be able to get your medical done then. No use doing the medical before hand.
OIn the other hand pre preperation of the 485 filing document is a better time investing and makes sense cause i am sure at teh last minute thgere will be some missing document for which you need to rush around.

[Pdmar08]

After a dull august its good to see the folks active again. More so even those who have become current.
Some time back we had a good discussion on vaccinations and i am fully for preparing early and going thru the personal physician.

I have 2 other questions if anyone can help answer.
1. Spouse name in passport - is it required? my wife and i are on H1s and do not have each others name in the passport. I have heard that my company or its lawyers required this. Not sure if they are being careful or if its a requirement. If its really required, i will put it on my todo and get it done sooner than later though i am still far away.
2. Birth certificate - Both my wife and i have our certificates both show the right birthdate and also a registration date which is about 2 months from the birth date.
However we got mine issued in 2004 when i was applying for my parents visa in mumbai so it has that 2004 date at the bottom where the stamp is, while my wifes cert has none. I believe it was issued at the same time as registration. Again, my company or the lawyers are saying(to some others) that since the cert is issued lately we need affidavits. So the question is this a requirement too?
Being in EB2 i would like to be as prepared as possible especially for the things i have come to know from this forum and from others in my company(they wont answer any of my questions until my PD is current so no point asking them). If we determine later that something is missing which was not known earlier thats fine, we will see what to do then.
Feel free to move this message to another thread/folder.
On a different note i have filed for H1 extension 3 times and stamping 2 times since Jan 2010, thankfully my state gives me a 5 year DL else i m constantly extending something or the other and now i ahve got a 2 year 3 months extension of H1 when i thought i would get 3 years because of LCA validity. I am hoping that this was my last H1 extension application.

[gc_usa]

After a dull august its good to see the folks active again. More so even those who have become current.
Some time back we had a good discussion on vaccinations and i am fully for preparing early and going thru the personal physician.

I have 2 other questions if anyone can help answer.
1. Spouse name in passport - is it required? my wife and i are on H1s and do not have each others name in the passport. I have heard that my company or its lawyers required this. Not sure if they are being careful or if its a requirement. If its really required, i will put it on my todo and get it done sooner than later though i am still far away.
2. Birth certificate - Both my wife and i have our certificates both show the right birthdate and also a registration date which is about 2 months from the birth date.
However we got mine issued in 2004 when i was applying for my parents visa in mumbai so it has that 2004 date at the bottom where the stamp is, while my wifes cert has none. I believe it was issued at the same time as registration. Again, my company or the lawyers are saying(to some others) that since the cert is issued lately we need affidavits. So the question is this a requirement too?
Being in EB2 i would like to be as prepared as possible especially for the things i have come to know from this forum and from others in my company(they wont answer any of my questions until my PD is current so no point asking them). If we determine later that something is missing which was not known earlier thats fine, we will see what to do then.
Feel free to move this message to another thread/folder.
On a different note i have filed for H1 extension 3 times and stamping 2 times since Jan 2010, thankfully my state gives me a 5 year DL else i m constantly extending something or the other and now i ahve got a 2 year 3 months extension of H1 when i thought i would get 3 years because of LCA validity. I am hoping that this was my last H1 extension application.

Your birth registration date should after some years of your birth. I guess it is 15. For e.g you were born in 70 then it can't be after 85. other than its ok.. few months or few years are ok for registration.

spouse names are not required as long as you have marriage cert. Next time you renew pp update it though for future use.

[Reader]

Your birth registration date should after some years of your birth. I guess it is 15. For e.g you were born in 70 then it can't be after 85. other than its ok.. few months or few years are ok for registration.



The date of registration in my birth certificate is 2006 and I have got the red Government seal on the back side of the certififcate. Is the date of registration which is 30+ years after the DOB, going to cause any issues?

[10102007]

The date of registration in my birth certificate is 2006 and I have got the red Government seal on the back side of the certififcate. Is the date of registration which is 30+ years after the DOB, going to cause any issues?

Donno if it will cause any issue, BUT lawyers generally say NO to that. Your lawyer may ask you to submit additional affidavits.

[srd4gc]

there is a difference of about 29yrs between my birth date and the seal date on the certificate...do i need to get affidavits in this case?

[veni001]

After a dull august its good to see the folks active again. More so even those who have become current.
Some time back we had a good discussion on vaccinations and i am fully for preparing early and going thru the personal physician.

I have 2 other questions if anyone can help answer.
1. Spouse name in passport - is it required? my wife and i are on H1s and do not have each others name in the passport. I have heard that my company or its lawyers required this. Not sure if they are being careful or if its a requirement. If its really required, i will put it on my todo and get it done sooner than later though i am still far away.
2. Birth certificate - Both my wife and i have our certificates both show the right birthdate and also a registration date which is about 2 months from the birth date.
However we got mine issued in 2004 when i was applying for my parents visa in mumbai so it has that 2004 date at the bottom where the stamp is, while my wifes cert has none. I believe it was issued at the same time as registration. Again, my company or the lawyers are saying(to some others) that since the cert is issued lately we need affidavits. So the question is this a requirement too?
Being in EB2 i would like to be as prepared as possible especially for the things i have come to know from this forum and from others in my company(they wont answer any of my questions until my PD is current so no point asking them). If we determine later that something is missing which was not known earlier thats fine, we will see what to do then.
Feel free to move this message to another thread/folder.
On a different note i have filed for H1 extension 3 times and stamping 2 times since Jan 2010, thankfully my state gives me a 5 year DL else i m constantly extending something or the other and now i ahve got a 2 year 3 months extension of H1 when i thought i would get 3 years because of LCA validity. I am hoping that this was my last H1 extension application.


there is a difference of about 29yrs between my birth date and the seal date on the certificate...do i need to get affidavits in this case?

You need to pay attention to the registration date first.

If the registration date is few days/few weeks/ few months after birth then you should be fine. Issue date will not make any difference in this case.

If your birth is registered after several years(ex: after 10-25 year) then it is advisable to get affidavits as well.

[Pedro Gonzales]

Your birth registration date should after some years of your birth. I guess it is 15. For e.g you were born in 70 then it can't be after 85. other than its ok.. few months or few years are ok for registration.


The date of registration in my birth certificate is 2006 and I have got the red Government seal on the back side of the certififcate. Is the date of registration which is 30+ years after the DOB, going to cause any issues?


Donno if it will cause any issue, BUT lawyers generally say NO to that. Your lawyer may ask you to submit additional affidavits.


there is a difference of about 29yrs between my birth date and the seal date on the certificate...do i need to get affidavits in this case?

I think Veni answered this already but I have some experience on this issue for my parents' GC so i'll give you my 2 cents. The USCIS websites are quite clear on this issue. If your date of registration is beyond 1 year after your date of birth, the birth certificate is not sufficient. They ask that you get affidavits (we got 3 but I think they only required 2). The date of seal/date of issue does not matter. The only thing that's important is the date of registration. Also, if you don't have a birth certificate at all (not relevant to most of us since everyone born after 1969 in India would have had the birth registered) you will require an NABC (Non-availability of birth certificate) form from the municipality of panchayat of your birth. I'd advice people not to go by what your lawyer says, or from the experiences of others. From a quick check on the web I found many people who managed with 'faulty' birth certificates, but far more cases were given RFEs asking for NABCs. Once you get an RFE you only have a month to respond, and that is not enough time to get the NABC or corrected Birth Certificate if you're here in the U.S., and don't have relatives in the town/village/city of your birth. And the 3rd party service providers like yourmaninindia aren't always successful. They got us an NABC from a small town in Tamil Nadu in about 45 days, but couldn't get one from Nagpur even after 2 months.

[nishant2200]

Can you please point to where?



I think Veni answered this already but I have some experience on this issue for my parents' GC so i'll give you my 2 cents. The USCIS websites are quite clear on this issue. If your date of registration is beyond 1 year after your date of birth, the birth certificate is not sufficient. They ask that you get affidavits (we got 3 but I think they only required 2). The date of seal/date of issue does not matter. The only thing that's important is the date of registration. Also, if you don't have a birth certificate at all (not relevant to most of us since everyone born after 1969 in India would have had the birth registered) you will require an NABC (Non-availability of birth certificate) form from the municipality of panchayat of your birth. I'd advice people not to go by what your lawyer says, or from the experiences of others. From a quick check on the web I found many people who managed with 'faulty' birth certificates, but far more cases were given RFEs asking for NABCs. Once you get an RFE you only have a month to respond, and that is not enough time to get the NABC or corrected Birth Certificate if you're here in the U.S., and don't have relatives in the town/village/city of your birth. And the 3rd party service providers like yourmaninindia aren't always successful. They got us an NABC from a small town in Tamil Nadu in about 45 days, but couldn't get one from Nagpur even after 2 months.

[Pdmar08]

I think Veni answered this already but I have some experience on this issue for my parents' GC so i'll give you my 2 cents. The USCIS websites are quite clear on this issue. If your date of registration is beyond 1 year after your date of birth, the birth certificate is not sufficient. They ask that you get affidavits (we got 3 but I think they only required 2). The date of seal/date of issue does not matter. The only thing that's important is the date of registration. Also, if you don't have a birth certificate at all (not relevant to most of us since everyone born after 1969 in India would have had the birth registered) you will require an NABC (Non-availability of birth certificate) form from the municipality of panchayat of your birth. I'd advice people not to go by what your lawyer says, or from the experiences of others. From a quick check on the web I found many people who managed with 'faulty' birth certificates, but far more cases were given RFEs asking for NABCs. Once you get an RFE you only have a month to respond, and that is not enough time to get the NABC or corrected Birth Certificate if you're here in the U.S., and don't have relatives in the town/village/city of your birth. And the 3rd party service providers like yourmaninindia aren't always successful. They got us an NABC from a small town in Tamil Nadu in about 45 days, but couldn't get one from Nagpur even after 2 months.

Thank you all for your response which is in alignment to my thought. DOes any one have first hand experience of filing for AOS when spouse's name was nor in passport? also is it require in both passports(before i get comments, i mean each others names ;) )

[nishant2200]

About the birth certificate names and date of registration etc. in my case. just sharing with you guys the email exchange with my lawyer for my case.

My email:

Hello Mr. XYZ,
I am attaching my birth certificate, my wife’s birth certificate, and my marriage certificate. This is not urgent right now, I do not want to bother you. But I would like to request you to see them, and see if there is any further secondary evidence, or affidavits might be needed. I want to prevent an RFE on this when we submit I-485, because then we have to rush against time and Indian administration bureaucracy.
I am listing below the concerns I have:

My Birth Certificate:
- My name listed as <firstname> only, not <firstname lastname> i.e. with family name. In India, it’s assumed that your family name will be what it is of your father.
- My mother’s name listed as <mothersfirstname + ‘ben’> instead of <mothersfirstname>. “Ben” means Mrs or a cultural way to say sister in my state in India. Her passport will not indicate “Ben”, only <mothersfirstname>.
- It was issued in year 2007, although date of registration of birth is indeed given as <date near my date of birth>.

Wife’s birth certificate:
- The pink copy is in Hindi, indian language, and the registrar has also provided an english copy, if you see the second page. Is this enough, or further steps needed for the english copy.
- The Date of Registration is listed as x/y/2005 and date of issue of certificate x /y/2005. She did not get birth registered at birth-time it seems to me, and got it registered with the Local Registrar’s office later on, or at least this is what I think a careful immigration officer would scrutinize and come to conclusion.

Lawyer's reply:


Mr. XXXX, these documents should be fine. They are satisfactory. As a back up, I will also have ready the high school leaving certificates for you and your wife.

Sincerely,
XYZ

[srd4gc]

whoa!!! high school leaving certificates ...i am not sure why we need it for i485 app...


About the birth certificate names and date of registration etc. in my case. just sharing with you guys the email exchange with my lawyer for my case.

My email:

Hello Mr. XYZ,
I am attaching my birth certificate, my wife’s birth certificate, and my marriage certificate. This is not urgent right now, I do not want to bother you. But I would like to request you to see them, and see if there is any further secondary evidence, or affidavits might be needed. I want to prevent an RFE on this when we submit I-485, because then we have to rush against time and Indian administration bureaucracy.
I am listing below the concerns I have:

My Birth Certificate:
- My name listed as <firstname> only, not <firstname lastname> i.e. with family name. In India, it’s assumed that your family name will be what it is of your father.
- My mother’s name listed as <mothersfirstname + ‘ben’> instead of <mothersfirstname>. “Ben” means Mrs or a cultural way to say sister in my state in India. Her passport will not indicate “Ben”, only <mothersfirstname>.
- It was issued in year 2007, although date of registration of birth is indeed given as <date near my date of birth>.

Wife’s birth certificate:
- The pink copy is in Hindi, indian language, and the registrar has also provided an english copy, if you see the second page. Is this enough, or further steps needed for the english copy.
- The Date of Registration is listed as x/y/2005 and date of issue of certificate x /y/2005. She did not get birth registered at birth-time it seems to me, and got it registered with the Local Registrar’s office later on, or at least this is what I think a careful immigration officer would scrutinize and come to conclusion.

Lawyer's reply:


Mr. XXXX, these documents should be fine. They are satisfactory. As a back up, I will also have ready the high school leaving certificates for you and your wife.

Sincerely,
XYZ

[srd4gc]

soggadu paaji...didn't pay full attention...and didn't understand the connection b/n BC and high school leaving certificate (i guess birth date listed on it is used)...light le lo na...anyways i totally admire the info that nishant and others share with all of us...great job...thanks again...


dude...Nishant mentioned in his big note that it is for secondary evidence on BC's.... you ask the question again.... nishant bhai phepdein phad phaaad ke itna bolne ke baad bhiiii....

[nishant2200]

soggadu paaji...didn't pay full attention...and didn't understand the connection b/n BC and high school leaving certificate (i guess birth date listed on it is used)...light le lo na...anyways i totally admire the info that nishant and others share with all of us...great job...thanks again...

sahi kaha. you have successfully pacified sogaddu's third eye :)

you have PD of 11/15/2007, a week after mine, gcseeker is a week before me. Don't we hate PDs on 1st, 8th, 15th or 22nd, always get lingering fear that a VB will stop on exactly that date and one shall be left cursing a single day he or his lawyer delayed!

[Pedro Gonzales]

Can you please point to where?

I guess i was wrong. I couldn't find that on the USCIS website after all, but on several murthy.com forum posts and immihelp.com. The latter in particular (see below), was very helpful.

http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/

[nishant2200]

I guess i was wrong. I couldn't find that on the USCIS website after all, but on several murthy.com forum posts and immihelp.com. The latter in particular (see below), was very helpful.

http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/

No problem, reason I had asked is I had done extensive research on this, including the I-485 instructions, and guidance on USCIS website. I could not find anything official written about this on USCIS website. I agree that immihelp as well as others forums, mention this, this might have arisen out of some empirical evidence of RFE. I believe it's based on your luck who gets your file, how much he wants to scrutinize.

[Eb2_Dec07]

I'm a secondary / dependant applicant who is looking to file I 485 along with spouse.
Now on my original birthcertificate , my mother's middle name is printed incorrectly.
All of my information is accurate. Trying to get this corrected in India seems like an impossibility. Would gurus advise on how I should approach this as I prepare my docs to wait for our EB2 Ind PD 07 dec to become current.

Thanks very much in advance

[nishant2200]

I-485 Instructions

Initial Evidence section

2. Birth Certificate

Submit a copy of your foreign birth certificate or other record of your birth that meets
the provisions of secondary evidence found in Title 8, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), 103.2(b)(2).

This law is at:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=8:1.0.1.2.6&idno=8

Go to section 103.2(b)(2) in this law document.

(2) Submitting secondary evidence and affidavits —(i) General. The non-existence or other unavailability of required evidence creates a presumption of ineligibility. If a required document, such as a birth or marriage certificate, does not exist or cannot be obtained, an applicant or petitioner must demonstrate this and submit secondary evidence, such as church or school records, pertinent to the facts at issue. If secondary evidence also does not exist or cannot be obtained, the applicant or petitioner must demonstrate the unavailability of both the required document and relevant secondary evidence, and submit two or more affidavits, sworn to or affirmed by persons who are not parties to the petition who have direct personal knowledge of the event and circumstances. Secondary evidence must overcome the unavailability of primary evidence, and affidavits must overcome the unavailability of both primary and secondary evidence.

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There are other interesting things to read too in this law document around this text area and below for further points like non-availability, translations and so on.

[nishant2200]

http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?64-Birth-Certificate-Related-Issues..&p=9475#post9475

I just posted some information about secondary evidence and if you need affidavits at all etc. straight from the lawbook at above post.

[Pedro Gonzales]

Now on my original birthcertificate , my mother's middle name is printed incorrectly.
All of my information is accurate. Trying to get this corrected in India seems like an impossibility. Would gurus advise on how I should approach this as I prepare my docs to wait for our EB2 Ind PD 07 dec to become current.

Not an expert but I'll take a shot since I'm experienced in this. Getting this corrected in India is difficult, but not an impossibility. I have got this done twice, for my wife in Bangalore, and for me in Mumbai. While the requirements in each case was different, they were clear and consistent about what the requirements were. The staff at the municipal office knew exactly what needed to be done and provided clear guidance. We got these done when we were in India on vacation so as to not burden on our parents, but our presence was not needed at all. Anybody with the right documents could have done it on our behalf. Having said that, my wife's mother was born in Nagpur, and the municipal office there required her presence to issue her a NABC (that's what they provide if they don't have your birth certificate), so every municipal office treats this differently.

As to whether you should go through the hassle or not, my lawyer said it was best we got it corrected if we could. He thought that misspelled parental name might not be an issue if we couldn't get it corrected. However, on researching the issue on Murthy and other websites, I found several cases of people that had received RFEs for exactly this. I remember some mentions of affidavits being accepted in response to the RFE, but it is probably less of a hassle to get the BC fixed.

[kd2008]

Not an expert but I'll take a shot since I'm experienced in this. Getting this corrected in India is difficult, but not an impossibility. I have got this done twice, for my wife in Bangalore, and for me in Mumbai. While the requirements in each case was different, they were clear and consistent about what the requirements were. The staff at the municipal office knew exactly what needed to be done and provided clear guidance. We got these done when we were in India on vacation so as to not burden on our parents, but our presence was not needed at all. Anybody with the right documents could have done it on our behalf. Having said that, my wife's mother was born in Nagpur, and the municipal office there required her presence to issue her a NABC (that's what they provide if they don't have your birth certificate), so every municipal office treats this differently.

As to whether you should go through the hassle or not, my lawyer said it was best we got it corrected if we could. He thought that misspelled parental name might not be an issue if we couldn't get it corrected. However, on researching the issue on Murthy and other websites, I found several cases of people that had received RFEs for exactly this. I remember some mentions of affidavits being accepted in response to the RFE, but it is probably less of a hassle to get the BC fixed.

Could you please detail your experience about name change? What was the procedure and what documents were needed in Mumbai?

All my details are correct except in my name. There is only my first name. My attorney said that this will for sure get an RFE as the full name is not there.

[Pedro Gonzales]

Could you please detail your experience about name change? What was the procedure and what documents were needed in Mumbai?

All my details are correct except in my name. There is only my first name. My attorney said that this will for sure get an RFE as the full name is not there.

Check out comment #5020 for details. In any case, it isn't relevant since in my case i corrected my father's name on my birth certificate. They needed the old birth certificate and 3 pieces of documentary evidence with my father's correct name from documents/IDs from before I was born. Not sure what they need if my name was incorrectly spelled.

Having looked at it again, my old birth certificate only had my first name on it, but on the corrected one they have included my full name. So, perhaps, you need nothing else. Just tell them you need the whole name on the birth certificate and they'll do it based on your dad's name (assuming you have his full name on it). At most, i'd expect they'd ask for other documentary evidence of your full name (school leaving certificate, ration card, etc).

[Gclongwait]

Could you please detail your experience about name change? What was the procedure and what documents were needed in Mumbai?

All my details are correct except in my name. There is only my first name. My attorney said that this will for sure get an RFE as the full name is not there.

Man, this is going to be a problem for me too. My name doesnt exist on my birth certificate at all (I didnt even know that till now). Also my moms last name is not there. My parents live in maharashtra and I was born in TN, we don't know anybody there. My PD is 1st Feb 08 so may or may not need it anytime soon. Can just an affidavit work for this? Getting it changed from the location of birth will be very tough.

[nishant2200]

Man, this is going to be a problem for me too. My name doesnt exist on my birth certificate at all (I didnt even know that till now). Also my moms last name is not there. My parents live in maharashtra and I was born in TN, we don't know anybody there. My PD is 1st Feb 08 so may or may not need it anytime soon. Can just an affidavit work for this? Getting it changed from the location of birth will be very tough.

This is what I would suggest.

Obtain school leaving certificate, and if that certificate don't list: your name, father's name, mother's name, date of birth, place of birth; request the school to write this down as a letter from their records.

Prepare the affidavits too, and the reason for affidavit should be mentioned as name not mentioned in the birth certificate.

I think this together should be sufficient.

They don't write full names for mother and child in Birth certificates many times in India, it is assumed that both the wife and child are going to take the family name, which is father. In my case my name was only written as "babo" (meaning baby in gujarati), at least my uncle managed to get it corrected to my first name. Apart from that, they totally refused to do any change. Even this change, my uncle says is a miracle. He is a lawyer in that city and is the biggest lawyer of that city, and he says that in his lifetime of law, he has never seen this happen, and they won't do it for anything for anyone.

[qesehmk]

My wife had similar situation. Her parents did affidavits in India and sent them over to us.

Man, this is going to be a problem for me too. My name doesnt exist on my birth certificate at all (I didnt even know that till now). Also my moms last name is not there. My parents live in maharashtra and I was born in TN, we don't know anybody there. My PD is 1st Feb 08 so may or may not need it anytime soon. Can just an affidavit work for this? Getting it changed from the location of birth will be very tough.

[knight]

I got all the tests done with my PCP.

1. Tetanus shot (TDAP) was not needed as I got it 2 yrs back
2. Blood tests were done to check for antibodies for MMR, Varicella, Syphilis, Hepatitis-B
3. PPD test for TB (2 visits needed for this one)
4. All others were either not applicable (due to age) or optional (like flu shot)

I then took all the reports to the USCIS approved civil surgeon, who charged me $120 for the physical exam. He looked at the other test results, completed the I-693 form and returned it in a sealed envelope, along with a copy for my records! It was over in about an hour!!!


Iam damm confused.
Can someone summarize what we can get done ahead of time with PCP (primary care physician)

So far I gathered we do these at pcp office,

1. tetanus proof else get shots
2. mmr (blood test) if 30+
3. titter (chicken pox, blood test)


At civil surgeons office,

1. Physical
2. Syphilis test (and vaccine if required later)
3. TB test (and followup if required later)
4. get forms filled


please confirm.

[mygctracker]

Regarding Immunization, can someone explain what exactly needs to be done? I don't have any record of any immunization that I was given when I was a child. Except Flu Shot, I don't have any knowledge. Please point me to a link where I can understand this subject.

One other question I had was, whether spouse Passport need to have Primary applicant name and viceversa?

Thanks.

In our own interest, all folks with dates up to June 2008 should get your documents squared away.

Dig into your files, bags and safes and make sure you have everything you need.
Look at the I 485 filing instructions and it will give you a good idea of what you need.
Then read through forms I-485, I-131, I-765 and G- 325 A and you will know all the information you should have handy as well.

Another important step is to make sure you have you immunizations current and documented.
To see al the stuff you need for the medical check up you can read through instructions for form I 693.

Getting you immunizations in order through PCP or if you have occupational health at you workplace will save you time and money.

You also need 6 passport photographs, that however, can be done easily at the last minute. Costco actually does an excellent job.

I expect as you see our wise guides predict a lot of unpredictable movement in the dates.

If we are ready to file and then file applications which are well prepared and documented, it will enable easier approvals, fewer RFE's and faster date movement for the people behind us in line. Especially now since they do not have a bunch of pre-approved applications.

This is one thing that will benefit the applicant as well as the people behind us as well.

Good luck!

[Monica12]

Regarding Immunization, can someone explain what exactly needs to be done? I don't have any record of any immunization that I was given when I was a child. Except Flu Shot, I don't have any knowledge. Please point me to a link where I can understand this subject.

One other question I had was, whether spouse Passport need to have Primary applicant name and viceversa?

Thanks.
For vaccinations, please see the discussion on this thread
http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?163-Vaccinations
The passports dont need to have the spouses' names...If you can, that's good but if you don't, a marriage certificate should be good enough.

[chikitsak]

You need to have a marriage certificate and a name change certificate (if name changed)...both in English.

Check this out and then if you need any clarification, I'll try.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=eb1f3591ec04d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD

This is form 693 on USCIS website for "I-693, Report of Medical Examination and Vaccination Record"



Regarding Immunization, can someone explain what exactly needs to be done? I don't have any record of any immunization that I was given when I was a child. Except Flu Shot, I don't have any knowledge. Please point me to a link where I can understand this subject.

One other question I had was, whether spouse Passport need to have Primary applicant name and viceversa?

Thanks.

[evoori]

Medical Exam I-693

Let me take the opportunity on first page of thread to summarize the medical exam requirement for GC. This has been discussed in detail in separate post http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?163-Vaccinations . The exam can be broken down in two steps for our own convenience. Step 1 is immunization, Step 2 is medical tests

Step 1 - Immunizations: Their is list at USCIS for different immunization required. Not all vaccines are required for all age group. For adult of our age group (30-50), following vaccines are required
a. MMR
b. Varicella : If you had chicken pox in your childhood you are already immune to this
c. Tetanus (Tdap or Tetanus booster shot) : These are given every 10 years.. someone in the post said USCIS wants this in last 5 years
d. Flu : Not every but more and more physicians are saying that this is also required for USCIS. These have to be given every year.
If you already have taken (a-c) but do not have records, you can get your blood test (exam is known as TITER) done for the above vaccines showing that you have antibodies for those 'or' you can take the vaccines again.

Step 2 - Medical Exam:
a. TB : TB Skin test is 2 day affair. On day 1 doctor will inject on your arm and on day 3 will measure for swelling if any. The vaccines (MMR I think) above do interfere with the test. Therefor it is recommended to get vaccines after the skin test. Many of us have taken BCG vaccine in our childhood, this may also interfere with the TB skin and can give false positive test result then doctor will ask to go for chest x-ray.
b. Syphilis
c. Physical exam

Step 2 has to be done at USCIS approved civil surgeon ( www.uscis.gov/civilsurgeons ). Step 1 can be done at any physician, any county hospital, even in India (getting records is important for Step 1) or at the civil surgeon office. Getting done at civil surgeon office is normally NOT covered by health insurance and therefore cost more money. USCIS does not regulate fees charged and you should call different surgeon to get quote. Surgeon near me quoted $100 for Step 2 only and $400 for Step1 + Step2.

After the test and looking at records, civil surgeon will fill form I693 and seal in an envelope and give it to you.

[ChampU]

QQ.. I have two copies of my Birth Certificate.. One that was issued when I was born (Its very badly damaged.. but it clearly states my Mom's name saying that she delivered a boy on my birthdate..the rest details aren't very clear) and the one that was issued recently (3 months ago) with all the details with official stamp and all the details . I also have a domicile certificate that states my name and DOB (wonder how useful that would be).
I plan to include all 3 documents when I apply for my 485. Would that be enough? Should I also get the affidavit done?

[nishant2200]

One thing to know is that in affidavit, one has to mention reason why affidavit is being submitted.

If there is no reason, no need to supply.

In your case, I would mention reason as: all details not availiable on original issue BC, hence supplying newly issued BC with all details as well as this affidavit to clarify the birth and parentage.


QQ.. I have two copies of my Birth Certificate.. One that was issued when I was born (Its very badly damaged.. but it clearly states my Mom's name saying that she delivered a boy on my birthdate..the rest details aren't very clear) and the one that was issued recently (3 months ago) with all the details with official stamp and all the details . I also have a domicile certificate that states my name and DOB (wonder how useful that would be).
I plan to include all 3 documents when I apply for my 485. Would that be enough? Should I also get the affidavit done?

[krishnav]

Hello Gurus,

One question about Birth Certificate. My mother's actual name has "Lakshmi" but it was spelled "Laxmi" in the birth certificate.
I checked with my attorney, he said normally its the candidate's name that they check and not father and mother's names. But to be on safe side, he said I could try to get a correct BC or and affidavit explaining why there was a spelling issue in BC for my mother's name.

Now, my question is do you guys know what kind of affidavit can we make for this. Can someone provide me with a sample. I foind affidavits for issues with actual candidate's names but none related to mother/fater name.
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

[nishant2200]

I have a similar problem. There is a "ben" attached to my mother's name. What you can do is explicitly specify in the affidavit that:

Lakshmi and Laxmi are different ways to spell the name from your native language of the region into English. This should not be considered name change. The following names refer to one and same person:
list down all full names like lastname lakshmi middle, lastname laxmi middle etc

Next write down this affidavit is being provided to clarify the naming translation and is being provided as a proof of your birth and parentage.

Remember the affidiavits are first person from the deponent's point of view. so the language would be as if your mother is saying it.


Hello Gurus,

One question about Birth Certificate. My mother's actual name has "Lakshmi" but it was spelled "Laxmi" in the birth certificate.
I checked with my attorney, he said normally its the candidate's name that they check and not father and mother's names. But to be on safe side, he said I could try to get a correct BC or and affidavit explaining why there was a spelling issue in BC for my mother's name.

Now, my question is do you guys know what kind of affidavit can we make for this. Can someone provide me with a sample. I foind affidavits for issues with actual candidate's names but none related to mother/fater name.
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

[krishnav]

Hi Nishant,

Thanks a lot for the response. That helps. I will try to type out some matter for an affidavit and see if you and other gurus here can review it and suggest corrections if necessary.
It would be great if someone could give a sample affidavit that they used in a similar case though.

Regards.


I have a similar problem. There is a "ben" attached to my mother's name. What you can do is explicitly specify in the affidavit that:

Lakshmi and Laxmi are different ways to spell the name from your native language of the region into English. This should not be considered name change. The following names refer to one and same person:
list down all full names like lastname lakshmi middle, lastname laxmi middle etc

Next write down this affidavit is being provided to clarify the naming translation and is being provided as a proof of your birth and parentage.

Remember the affidiavits are first person from the deponent's point of view. so the language would be as if your mother is saying it.

[krishnav]

Ok...for people like me who want sample affidavit information for Birth Certificate issues, here is a good link.

http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/sample-documents-birth-certficate.html


This one is affidavit to say both names are for the same person.

http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/sample-one-same-person-affidavit.html

And, here is alist of all documents.

http://www.immihelp.com/forms/sample.html

Sorry if its already been posted earlier.

[evoori]

What is A# ?

I have medical exam due tomorrow. The form I-693 asks for A#. Does anyone know is it the same # given on I-140 approval notice or is it different ?
Sorry for the off topic question when everybody is tense.. I googled it and found answers like it is I-94 # or it is red # printed on Visa (H1) etc..

[nishant2200]

What is A# ?

I have medical exam due tomorrow. The form I-693 asks for A#. Does anyone know is it the same # given on I-140 approval notice or is it different ?
Sorry for the off topic question when everybody is tense.. I googled it and found answers like it is I-94 # or it is red # printed on Visa (H1) etc..

Use the one on your I-140 approval notice, that would be my advise.

[skpanda]

Sorry to hear about your wifes stamping issues. Although you may have to contact a lawyer...

Your wife has to be in US for all the documents to be ready like doctors certificate etc.

Without knowing much about your wifes work situation - I think this is what you should do - Try to get the passport back from the consulate. Have your wife apply for H4 and let her come here ASAP. File for 485. Get EAD in 3 months and start working.

Contact a good Attorney!

Good luck!




My date is current wife stuck in India, she went for H1B stamping got 221G

My priority date is 29Aug2007, EB2 India, my date is current as of November visa bulletin.
My wife went to India and attended for visa stamping in Hyderabad consulate on 10th August 2011, she got 221(G) yellow slip, admin process, visa officer retained her passport, asked to submit additional document, she submitted the documents, it is already 2 months of waiting, no response from consulate.
My question is can we apply i-485 both of us, while she is in India, I am In USA? Or she must be in USA to apply i-485.
Could you please help me what is my best option.

[gchopeful123]

I am going to take my office colleagues to drinks tomorrow & my personal friends on the weekend i.e. after the medical tests. :)

PS: Will upgrade to the new iPhone 4S on Fri :)


Please also let us know how you guys are planning to celebrate the great news !!!!

[indiaeb2]

I booked for my medical tomorrow and just went to take photo with my family...looks like i need to do a hair cut as my picture was not right. Family photo is done..wow.what a nice feeling is this... Again my best wishes to all of you who are current.

[billu77]

Congratulations to all those who will be current in November. I am getting ready to file I-485 and my wife is pregnant and due next week...should we get the medical done before due date ( some friends suggest that the surgeon may waive off vaccines and we may not get RFE) or should we schedule for a week after her due date so that she can get all vaccines and reduce the chances of RFE??pls advice if anyone in similar situation...thanks and all the best!

[veni001]

Congratulations to all those who will be current in November. I am getting ready to file I-485 and my wife is pregnant and due next week...should we get the medical done before due date ( some friends suggest that the surgeon may waive off vaccines and we may not get RFE) or should we schedule for a week after her due date so that she can get all vaccines and reduce the chances of RFE??pls advice if anyone in similar situation...thanks and all the best!

billu,

Congratulations!

Schedule appointment as early as possible, irrespective of due date. Depending on her situation at the time of appointment Civil Surgeon will decide what to test or give vaccines.

[qesehmk]

Pregnant women are exempt from vaccines and so would be women nursing. I think your civil surgeon will tell you the same. It happened with my friends wife. She had to get hers done just before they received GC finally.


Congratulations to all those who will be current in November. I am getting ready to file I-485 and my wife is pregnant and due next week...should we get the medical done before due date ( some friends suggest that the surgeon may waive off vaccines and we may not get RFE) or should we schedule for a week after her due date so that she can get all vaccines and reduce the chances of RFE??pls advice if anyone in similar situation...thanks and all the best!

[Jonty Rhodes]

Just out of curiosity, this question came to my mind today and this is not related to immigration itself.

I came here on F1 and did my Masters in Public Health (MPH) from a US University. Meanwhile, while doing masters, I gave my US Medical Licensing Exams, obtained a residency in Internal Medicine and converted my visa in to H1B. I finished my MD in Internal Medicine from a US Hospital.

My question is if in case, the Congress passes a legislation to give green cards to international students with STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Math) degree, would my MPH or MD qualify under any of the four categories?

Any input would be appreciated.

[10102007]

There is only one way to be sure. See if the CIP code on your I-20 is listed in the STEM list on the ICE.gov website.




Just out of curiosity, this question came to my mind today and this is not related to immigration itself.

I came here on F1 and did my Masters in Public Health (MPH) from a US University. Meanwhile, while doing masters, I gave my US Medical Licensing Exams, obtained a residency in Internal Medicine and converted my visa in to H1B. I finished my MD in Internal Medicine from a US Hospital.

My question is if in case, the Congress passes a legislation to give green cards to international students with STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Math) degree, would my MPH or MD qualify under any of the four categories?

Any input would be appreciated.

[chikitsak]

They are overcharging you my friend. We did our medical tests last month and it was $ 160 per person. The vaccines etc are over and above that.

Getting them through your PCP is ideal, even if you have to delay your appointment with the immigration doc.
You have plenty of time.

The affidavits are likely to take the most time, depending on where they are being done and sent from.




Here is how i am going about it
10/5/2011
--- Immediately after reaching home, called attorney, they sent a word doc to fill in with details of me and my family
--- Called Clinic for medical test, set up reminder to call next monday morning
--- Started collecting scanned copies of Passports, I-94s,BirthCertificates( Need to arrange for Affidavits)
10/6/2011
-- called clinic for immigration medical test, the nurse talked about the list of vaccines they would look for, I asked her if you do any test if i don't have any records of my previous vaccines, She suggested to get it done with family physician as it would be cheaper.She gave list of what vaccines we need to look if they are already present(Rubella,Tetanus,RPR,PPD) in our blood. Since my daughter started school this year she does not need any except TB test.
--Called family physician, luckily found a morning appointment, they took boold sample to check for Rubella and RPR, but said TB skin test and tetanus shot would be on monday, she said 48Hrs theory i did not get it.
-- They did not accept my wife for test, as she never been there, my wife also found appointment today afternoon for vaccines test
-- After we get the results of the above tests, we'll go to USCIS Doc to get the medical reports in sealed cover. They said it would cost $500 per head and doc would charge $200 for preparation of report. No choice! got to do it.But we have already some vaccines the $500 would go less.
-- more scanned docs

Will update progress.

[nishant2200]

Guys,
Is it required to provide bank statements for 485 filing? I do not have this in my checklist, but my colleague has it in his checklist by his attorney? I am surprised. can anyone help?

Only purpose of bank statement is to show you and wife holding joint account, to prove marriage. You can alternatively provide lease agreement of house with you both on it, or title of home with both names on it, if you have purchased a home. Of course marriage certificate.

I have only seen this kind of detailed query for Marriage proof when wife applies seperately. If you both apply together, and you have marriage certificate, and tax returns of at least one year show you both as joint return, there should not be any query.

ps: I am stuck at work in something today, and unable to view forum much.

[Monica12]

Only purpose of bank statement is to show you and wife holding joint account, to prove marriage. You can alternatively provide lease agreement of house with you both on it, or title of home with both names on it, if you have purchased a home. Of course marriage certificate.

I have only seen this kind of detailed query for Marriage proof when wife applies seperately. If you both apply together, and you have marriage certificate, and tax returns of at least one year show you both as joint return, there should not be any query.

ps: I am stuck at work in something today, and unable to view forum much.
100 % agree. This is all you need !

[indiaeb2]

Update :
Just got my medical done for me and my wife. It costed me $640 for both. Need to go back on saturday for blood work results and collect the envolpe.
My employer has fedex my employer verification document
Started to write forms.......i have few questions..need to check that
Need to take xerox of documents

Hopefully i should get all this done by this weekend and mail my package to attornety

[nishant2200]

Excellent.

btw, It's good that doctors here take credit card :D


Update :
Just got my medical done for me and my wife. It costed me $640 for both. Need to go back on saturday for blood work results and collect the envolpe.
My employer has fedex my employer verification document
Started to write forms.......i have few questions..need to check that
Need to take xerox of documents

Hopefully i should get all this done by this weekend and mail my package to attornety

[grnwtg]

Is anybody here from Northern Virginia area who does medicals for reasonable price?
I am not sure i will get current but, just wanted to be ready.



Update :
Just got my medical done for me and my wife. It costed me $640 for both. Need to go back on saturday for blood work results and collect the envolpe.
My employer has fedex my employer verification document
Started to write forms.......i have few questions..need to check that
Need to take xerox of documents

Hopefully i should get all this done by this weekend and mail my package to attornety

[Gclongwait]

Affidavit for Missing name in Birth certificate
Q,
I remember you mentioned you has done this for your better half. Can you post the wording of the affidavit, obviously removing details? I would like to get this done as soon as possible to avoid a near certain RFE. Although my PD is 1st Feb unlike many others with PD before me I am confident it should be next month :-).

[chikitsak]

You don't need to worry about getting you medical test in anticipation of getting current. You should however, as you are look into what vaccinations etc you need to get and take care of that through your PCP.
If you have all vaccinations etc documented, it will save you a lot of money as well as expedite the process. It will then take only 2-3 days.




Is anybody here from Northern Virginia area who does medicals for reasonable price?
I am not sure i will get current but, just wanted to be ready.

[rdsingh79]

I have same issue with my wife's birth certificate. Any help on affidavit wording would be appreciated.


Affidavit for Missing name in Birth certificate
Q,
I remember you mentioned you has done this for your better half. Can you post the wording of the affidavit, obviously removing details? I would like to get this done as soon as possible to avoid a near certain RFE. Although my PD is 1st Feb unlike many others with PD before me I am confident it should be next month :-).

[nishant2200]

I have same issue with my wife's birth certificate. Any help on affidavit wording would be appreciated.

I am just following samples given on
http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/

[grnwtg]

I am not intending to take medical test but just wanted to know uscis certified physician names who reasonably charge fee.

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You don't need to worry about getting you medical test in anticipation of getting current. You should however, as you are look into what vaccinations etc you need to get and take care of that through your PCP.
If you have all vaccinations etc documented, it will save you a lot of money as well as expedite the process. It will then take only 2-3 days.

[soggadu]

Affidavit for Missing name in Birth certificate
Q,
I remember you mentioned you has done this for your better half. Can you post the wording of the affidavit, obviously removing details? I would like to get this done as soon as possible to avoid a near certain RFE. Although my PD is 1st Feb unlike many others with PD before me I am confident it should be next month :-).

gc bhai....vein has posted 1 in the birth certificate issue thread ...

[gcjones]

Where are you located? Please share the details of civil surgeon here or send through PM.


I got all the tests done with my PCP.

1. Tetanus shot (TDAP) was not needed as I got it 2 yrs back
2. Blood tests were done to check for antibodies for MMR, Varicella, Syphilis, Hepatitis-B
3. PPD test for TB (2 visits needed for this one)
4. All others were either not applicable (due to age) or optional (like flu shot)

I then took all the reports to the USCIS approved civil surgeon, who charged me $120 for the physical exam. He looked at the other test results, completed the I-693 form and returned it in a sealed envelope, along with a copy for my records! It was over in about an hour!!!

[Kanmani]

Two example Birth Certificate Affidavits from 2 diff websites

We, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name], hereby depose and say:
1. Our full and complete address is [street address with apartment or house number, town/city, state, postal zip code].
2. That I, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] was born on [date] in the town/city of [city], [country].
3. That I, [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] (Mother's Maiden Name: Mother's Maiden Name), was born on [date] in the town/city of [name of city], [country].
4. We got married on [date of marriage] in the city of [name of city], [country].
5. Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name] our daughter/ son, was born to us on the date at Location ( So and so Hospital, CITY).
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth is incomplete concerning [Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name].
We declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.
_________________________
[Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and signature
_________________________
[Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] and signature


Subscribed and Sworn to before
Me, this ____ day of __________,
[YEAR] at ______________________.






Affidavit of Birth by PARENT

I, PARENT NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE.
2. That I, PARENT NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
3. I got married on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY to PARENT NAME.
4. My husband/wife, PARENT NAME was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
5. YOUR NAME is our son/daughter, was born to us on DATE OF BIRTH at our home in CITY, COUNTRY.
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

_____________________
PARENT NAME

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________

[Stemcell]

Guys,
The affidavit should be in which denominator stamp paper? I mean 20 Rs/50 Rupees....is there a minimum?
Thanks.

[gc_usa]

Hello folks,

I don't have any record for Vaccination. Which vaccinations will I require for I 485 ?

I found online that MMR , TdaP are required one if doc find no immune in blood work. Besides these any other required ?

Also any doctor in NJ ( Northern or Central ) does it for cheap. I called two doc and they gave me 300 Per person for MMR , Blood work for Syphilis and office visit. If I need blood work for immune record or any other vaccination it may be 100 - 300 extra depends on how many I need. So min range 300 max range 600 they gave me.

Looks like too high. I called my insurance and they do cover immunization as preventive care , my PCP is also does that. I just need to know which vaccinations we can get from PCP and have them ready for this civil surgeon so I don't need any from him.

[Stemcell]

Kanmani,Soggadu.
Thank you for the template.
In what denomination should the affidavit be? I mean 20 Rs/50 Rupees....is there a minimum?
Thanks.




Two example Birth Certificate Affidavits from 2 diff websites

We, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name], hereby depose and say:
1. Our full and complete address is [street address with apartment or house number, town/city, state, postal zip code].
2. That I, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] was born on [date] in the town/city of [city], [country].
3. That I, [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] (Mother's Maiden Name: Mother's Maiden Name), was born on [date] in the town/city of [name of city], [country].
4. We got married on [date of marriage] in the city of [name of city], [country].
5. Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name] our daughter/ son, was born to us on the date at Location ( So and so Hospital, CITY).
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth is incomplete concerning [Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name].
We declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.
_________________________
[Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and signature
_________________________
[Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] and signature


Subscribed and Sworn to before
Me, this ____ day of __________,
[YEAR] at ______________________.






Affidavit of Birth by PARENT

I, PARENT NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE.
2. That I, PARENT NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
3. I got married on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY to PARENT NAME.
4. My husband/wife, PARENT NAME was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
5. YOUR NAME is our son/daughter, was born to us on DATE OF BIRTH at our home in CITY, COUNTRY.
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

_____________________
PARENT NAME

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________

[indiaeb2]

I see this document in my package sent from my attorney for Affidavit . This will help someone who needs Affaidavit sample

ENDORSEMENT OR NON-AVAILABILITY CERTIFICATE




You are hereby informed that a search has been made in the Birth Register of (Village/town/city) for the year __________ on the particulars stated by you in your application dated ______________ and the birth entry of your son/daughter named __________________________ is not found in the Birth Register of (Village/town/city) for the year __________ and hence, the birth certificate applied for cannot be issued.

Date:
Place:
______________
(Signature)
Designation
Seal

Please Note: This endorsement is required when the applicant doesn’t have a Birth Certificate issued by the authority. The Applicant must get 2 sworn affidavits in addition to this endorsement.









AFFIDAVIT FROM (MOTHER/FATHER) FOR BIRTH


(Name of Mother/Father), being of duly sworn on the __________ day of _________, 19_____, deposes and says that:
1. I am ______ years old and reside at (Address)_______________________
2. I am the (mother/father of (your name)______________________
3. (your name)_______________ was born in the City of ________________, State/Province of ________________, in (Country)______ on (date)_______
4. (your name)___________ is the (son/daughter) of (name of spouse)________, my (husband/wife).
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the U.S. that the foregoing is true and correct.

(Attestation) _______________________
(Mother/father signature)

Please Note: Give the name of the parent for (Mother/Father)
Get (2) sworn affidavits – (1) from mother and (1) from father









AFFIDAVIT FROM (BROTHER/SISTER/RELATIVE) FOR BIRTH

(Brother/Sister/Relative), being of duly sworn on the _____________ day of _________, 19_____, deposes and says that:
1. I am __________ years old and reside at (Address)______________________
2. I am the (brother/sister/relative) of (your name)______________
3. (Your name)____________ was born in the City of _________________, State/Province of _________________, in (Country)___ on (date)_________;
4. (Your name)___________ is the son/daughter of (name of father)_________, his/her father and (name of mother)___________, his/her mother.
5. I know this to be true because I was living in the house at the time of (your name)___________’s birth and we have always celebrated (your name) ____ on the (date).
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the U.S. that the foregoing is true and correct.

(Attestation)
(Brother/sister/relative signature)_________
Please Note: Give name for (brother/sister/relative) and relationship for (relative)

AFFIDAVIT FROM A RELATIVE FOR MARRIAGE

I (Name of Relative) ___, being of duly sworn on the _____________ day of _________, 20_____, deposes and says that:
1. I am __________ years old and reside at (Address)__________________
2. I am the (Relationship) of (your name)______________
3. (Husband)____________ was born in the City of _________________, State/Province of _________________, in (Country)___ on (date)_________;
4. (Husband)_____________is the son of (Father) & (Mother)________,
5. (Wife)_________________ was born in the City of ______________,
State/Province of ________________, in (Country)___on (date)_________;
6. (Wife)_____________ is the daughter of (Father) and (Mother);
7. (Husband) and (Wife) Were married in a wedding before a priest of the _____
Religion on (Date) in the City of ___________________, State/Province of
________________, In (Country);
8. I know this to be true because I was present at the wedding.
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the U.S. that the foregoing is true and correct.

(Attestation)
_______________________
(Relative signature)
Please Note: Give the Name for Relative/Husband/Wife/Mother/Father

TRANSLATOR’S CERTIFICATION

I, (Name of the Translator) ________, being duly sworn, depose and say;
1. That I am thoroughly conversant with the ___________ and English languages;
2. That I have carefully read the attached translation and compared same with the original document in the ______________ language;
3. That said translation is a true and complete English version of such original, to the best of my knowledge and belief.
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States that the foregoing is true and correct.


______________________________
(Translator’s signature)

(Attestation)

Dated: __________________




SAMPLE AFFIDAVIT
NAME IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BIRTH CERTICATE

AFFIDAVIT
I, (Name of the parent) wife/husband of Mr. /Ms. _______________________ presently residing at ______________ do here by solemnly affirm and state on oath as under:
That I am a citizen of ___________ by birth, born on __________ at _______________
That I married to Mr. /Ms., on _____________ at _____________
That my son/daughter Mr. /Ms. _____________ born to us on __________ at _______________.
That the official Government Birth records of my son/daughter Mr. /Ms. __________ does not indicate his/her name as in our custom we do not name the child immediately after the birth.
That I am making this affidavit as I am personally familiar with the facts about the birth of my son/daughter.
What is stated above is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and information.
SIGNATURE OF DEPONENT
Name
SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS ____ DAY OF _____________

[tackle]

I see this document in my package sent from my attorney for Affidavit . This will help someone who needs Affaidavit sample

ENDORSEMENT OR NON-AVAILABILITY CERTIFICATE




You are hereby informed that a search has been made in the Birth Register of (Village/town/city) for the year __________ on the particulars stated by you in your application dated ______________ and the birth entry of your son/daughter named __________________________ is not found in the Birth Register of (Village/town/city) for the year __________ and hence, the birth certificate applied for cannot be issued.

Date:
Place:
______________
(Signature)
Designation
Seal

Please Note: This endorsement is required when the applicant doesn’t have a Birth Certificate issued by the authority. The Applicant must get 2 sworn affidavits in addition to this endorsement.




This is interesting. Did your lawyer actually issue this Non-Availability Certificate or am I mistaken? I was under the impression that it must be issued by the local authorities of the city/village where one was born. One of my friends who is in line to get current (several years from now) does not have an official BC and her family in India is trying to get a "non-availability" certificate from the local officials. It would be easier for her if a lawyer in US could issue this certificate. But I remember reading somewhere that it must be from local officials. Let me know how it works out for you. All the best!

[indiaeb2]

This is interesting. Did your lawyer actually issue this Non-Availability Certificate or am I mistaken? I was under the impression that it must be issued by the local authorities of the city/village where one was born. One of my friends who is in line to get current (several years from now) does not have an official BC and her family in India is trying to get a "non-availability" certificate from the local officials. It would be easier for her if a lawyer in US could issue this certificate. But I remember reading somewhere that it must be from local officials. Let me know how it works out for you. All the best!

No Lawyer did not issue this Non-Availablity Certificate. This is a template which can be used and signed by local authorities.

[needid]

Called my attorney office to check on Affidavits for birth as we have our Birthdate registered last year. My attorney says if there is a secondary proof of birth( Tenth Marks Memo, PAN Card, Indian Driving licence) no need of affidavits. One less thing to worry.


No Lawyer did not issue this Non-Availablity Certificate. This is a template which can be used and signed by local authorities.

[mygctracker]

Nishant/Q/Veni,

I have my Birth Certificate with me, but the Registration Date on it is showing 2010 date. The Issue Date is also 2010 date. Would this be any problem? Do I have to get Affidavits from Parents or relatives? Please advise.

Thanks!


Two example Birth Certificate Affidavits from 2 diff websites

We, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name], hereby depose and say:
1. Our full and complete address is [street address with apartment or house number, town/city, state, postal zip code].
2. That I, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] was born on [date] in the town/city of [city], [country].
3. That I, [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] (Mother's Maiden Name: Mother's Maiden Name), was born on [date] in the town/city of [name of city], [country].
4. We got married on [date of marriage] in the city of [name of city], [country].
5. Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name] our daughter/ son, was born to us on the date at Location ( So and so Hospital, CITY).
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth is incomplete concerning [Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name].
We declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.
_________________________
[Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and signature
_________________________
[Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] and signature


Subscribed and Sworn to before
Me, this ____ day of __________,
[YEAR] at ______________________.






Affidavit of Birth by PARENT

I, PARENT NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE.
2. That I, PARENT NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
3. I got married on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY to PARENT NAME.
4. My husband/wife, PARENT NAME was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
5. YOUR NAME is our son/daughter, was born to us on DATE OF BIRTH at our home in CITY, COUNTRY.
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

_____________________
PARENT NAME

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________

[nishant2200]

My wife has similar issue. I asked lawyer, he told me it's nothing to worry about, and he asked to provide high school leaving certificate as backup.

Per him, in fact, affidavit is not needed, if have secondary evidence like above. I am just preparing affidavits in advance to keep just in worst case, but lawyer is not asking or going to submit them.


Nishant/Q/Veni,

I have my Birth Certificate with me, but the Registration Date on it is showing 2010 date. The Issue Date is also 2010 date. Would this be any problem? Do I have to get Affidavits from Parents or relatives? Please advise.

Thanks!

[leo4ever]

Q,

Do we have place where we can save it as a templete or something for future reference?



Two example Birth Certificate Affidavits from 2 diff websites

We, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name], hereby depose and say:
1. Our full and complete address is [street address with apartment or house number, town/city, state, postal zip code].
2. That I, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] was born on [date] in the town/city of [city], [country].
3. That I, [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] (Mother's Maiden Name: Mother's Maiden Name), was born on [date] in the town/city of [name of city], [country].
4. We got married on [date of marriage] in the city of [name of city], [country].
5. Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name] our daughter/ son, was born to us on the date at Location ( So and so Hospital, CITY).
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth is incomplete concerning [Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name].
We declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.
_________________________
[Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and signature
_________________________
[Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] and signature


Subscribed and Sworn to before
Me, this ____ day of __________,
[YEAR] at ______________________.






Affidavit of Birth by PARENT

I, PARENT NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE.
2. That I, PARENT NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
3. I got married on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY to PARENT NAME.
4. My husband/wife, PARENT NAME was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
5. YOUR NAME is our son/daughter, was born to us on DATE OF BIRTH at our home in CITY, COUNTRY.
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

_____________________
PARENT NAME

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________
QUOTE]

[tackle]

I got "place of birth" mismatch in passport and birth certificate, will this create a problem in my 485 filling, if it's a problem please let me know how this could be resolved.

My wife has the same issue. We tried to get it fixed on the BC (as the passport has correct detail) but the local authorities said it is not possible for them to say the person was born in City B when it is the City A where the person's birth was registered and that is issuing the certificate. I was really concerned about this and repeatedly asked my lawyers if we need to send affidavits or try and get passport updated to match the BC. They basically told me to not worry too much about the inconsistency and if at all there is an RFE, they will explain the issue and say that we tried to fix it but could not do it. I'm not totally satisfied with this. But I trust my lawyers as they have done such a great job (knock on wood) until now.

[sreddy]

This is another example.. sample birth affidivit i got form Fragomen. Hope this helps

SAMPLE BIRTH AFFIDAVIT
[This affidavit must be notarized.]



1. My name is [Writer should state his/her full name, address, and telephone number.]


2. This affidavit is provided on behalf of [full name of person whose birth is to be proved].


3. [Name] was born on [date] in [place, including town/city, state/province, country].


4. [Complete Name] parents are _____________ and _____________.

5. [State your relationship to person, e.g., parent; aunt, friend of parent; etc. and describe how you know fact of birth, e.g., you are the parent of individual; you attended actual birth; you attended family events celebrating the birth over the years. Provide all relevant facts.]

6. [State reason for birth not being registerd with the local government].




I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.


________________________
(Affiant's name)


Subscribed and sworn to (affirmed) before me this _______ day of [month], [year], in [city/state/country].


_________________________
Notary Public



Q,

Do we have place where we can save it as a templete or something for future reference?



Two example Birth Certificate Affidavits from 2 diff websites

We, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name], hereby depose and say:
1. Our full and complete address is [street address with apartment or house number, town/city, state, postal zip code].
2. That I, [Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] was born on [date] in the town/city of [city], [country].
3. That I, [Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] (Mother's Maiden Name: Mother's Maiden Name), was born on [date] in the town/city of [name of city], [country].
4. We got married on [date of marriage] in the city of [name of city], [country].
5. Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name] our daughter/ son, was born to us on the date at Location ( So and so Hospital, CITY).
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth is incomplete concerning [Child's First Name] [Child's Last Name].
We declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.
_________________________
[Father's First Name] [Father's Last Name] and signature
_________________________
[Mother's First Name] [Mother's Last Name] and signature


Subscribed and Sworn to before
Me, this ____ day of __________,
[YEAR] at ______________________.






Affidavit of Birth by PARENT

I, PARENT NAME, hereby depose and say:
1. My full and complete address is H. NO, CITY, DISTRICT, STATE, COUNTRY - ZIPCODE.
2. That I, PARENT NAME, was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
3. I got married on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY to PARENT NAME.
4. My husband/wife, PARENT NAME was born on DATE in the town/village of CITY, COUNTRY.
5. YOUR NAME is our son/daughter, was born to us on DATE OF BIRTH at our home in CITY, COUNTRY.
6. This affidavit is being submitted because the official record of birth was not registered at the time of birth of YOUR NAME.

I declare under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is a true and correct statement.

_____________________
PARENT NAME

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this ____ day of __________, 2011

at ______________________. My commission expires on ___________


Signature of Officer Administering Oath __________________________
QUOTE]

[soggadu]

:)

I finally talked just to another guy at the health office at school and he said it will be extremely difficult to track down the old stuff. So I give up on the school path.

I will next contact local doctor under insurance network and explain situation, I will post what I find.

i had to fax a medical release form to my school (IIT chicago) and they mailed me the docs...

[mygctracker]

Thanks Nishant Guru. Although I have High School Leaving Certificate, PAN & DL (India), I'll also try to get Affidavits for safe side. :-)



My wife has similar issue. I asked lawyer, he told me it's nothing to worry about, and he asked to provide high school leaving certificate as backup.

Per him, in fact, affidavit is not needed, if have secondary evidence like above. I am just preparing affidavits in advance to keep just in worst case, but lawyer is not asking or going to submit them.

[rdsingh79]

As I mentioned earlier, my coworker (and close frd) with PD in early Jan 2008 got this note from our lawyer. He is very excited (obviously). All this happened one day after Nov VB. Same day our lawyer contacted me as my PD (sep 2007) in now current and they asked me to fill in questionnaire and get my medical done ASAP.

I think its fairly certain that cut-off date will move in early 2008 by Q2 of FY2012. And I understand (having gone through it) that the wait could be nerve wracking. Good Luck.



Fragomen indicate they have significant contacts in DOS, USCIS etc.

http://www.fragomen.com/newsresources/xprGeneralContentFrag.aspx?xpST=ResourceGeneral&key=960eb125-ce7c-4f4b-a67d-4dfb924e7250&activeEntry=bee379b6-7bf4-4ecd-9900-23206c308864

rdsingh79's info seems even better now. rdsingh79, this was told to you by ur coworkers?

[krishnav]

Hello All,

One question. This is for Adjustment of Status. My Birth Certificate was registered with the Govt stamp etc in 2008 instead of my birth year (1983). Do I still need to provide an affidavit for that or is it ok as long as it is registered.
Also, could you please provide me with a sample for such cases.
This might be answered earlier. I tried to find myself but couldnt. Please point me there if it was already answered.

Thanks.

[nishant2200]

My wife has similar late registration.

My lawyer said to provide high school leaving certificate as backup. Per him, he did not need affidavit if there is strong secondary evidence.

I got wife's high school leaving certificate, as well as a letter from the wife's parents' nursing home doctor on his clinic's letterhead and stamped, that he delivered my wife on what date, time, place, and her parents names.

I have also got affidavits ready just in case to provide later on if needed. The affidavit states (affidavits are from her parents, so it would be say for eg, her father saying) that it was not customary in my town at that time to register child's birth, and hence her birth was registered later.

I have used formats on http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/ on rs. 20 stamp paper. if you see this thread from beginning, you will find other formats put up by people

Hello All,

One question. This is for Adjustment of Status. My Birth Certificate was registered with the Govt stamp etc in 2008 instead of my birth year (1983). Do I still need to provide an affidavit for that or is it ok as long as it is registered.
Also, could you please provide me with a sample for such cases.
This might be answered earlier. I tried to find myself but couldnt. Please point me there if it was already answered.

Thanks.

[krishnav]

Awesome...Thanks Nishant


My wife has similar late registration.

My lawyer said to provide high school leaving certificate as backup. Per him, he did not need affidavit if there is strong secondary evidence.

I got wife's high school leaving certificate, as well as a letter from the wife's parents' nursing home doctor on his clinic's letterhead and stamped, that he delivered my wife on what date, time, place, and her parents names.

I have also got affidavits ready just in case to provide later on if needed. The affidavit states (affidavits are from her parents, so it would be say for eg, her father saying) that it was not customary in my town at that time to register child's birth, and hence her birth was registered later.

I have used formats on http://www.immihelp.com/birth-certificate/ on rs. 20 stamp paper. if you see this thread from beginning, you will find other formats put up by people

[gc_usa]

I called couple of docs in Northern NJ area and quote for all including exam, blood work , vacs , TB test was $600 per person. 3 vacs are covered if needed more then more money , same thing is for TB , more finding is required then more money.

I think based reading here this is too much. I am going to my PCP and my insurance covers Vacs he ordered TITER test based on result I will get Vacs from him. Is there any docs who does for $100-200 range ?

[nishant2200]

ok I google searched. thank you !

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=5436f0cb861c5210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=4c790a5659083210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD

Criteria for Expedited Processing of an Application
USCIS will expedite an application, including an application for a travel document, Form I-131, in certain situations, which may include:

Severe financial loss to company or individual
Extreme emergent situation
Humanitarian situation
Nonprofit status of requesting organization in furtherance of the cultural and social interests of the United States
Department of Defense or National Interest Situation (Note: Request must come from official United States Government entity and state that delay will be detrimental to our Government.)
USCIS error
Compelling interest of USCIS
You may maket an expedite request by contacting the National Customer Service Center (NCSC) at 1-800-375-5283 or by submitting a written request and supporting documentation with your application.

Emergency Advance Parole Documents
If you are experiencing an extremely urgent situation, you may visit your local office to request an emergency advance parole document. When visiting a local office to request emergency advance parole, you should bring the following items:

A completed and signed Form I-131, Application for Travel Document
The correct I-131 filing fee
Evidence to support the emergency request (e.g. medical documentation, death certificate)
Two passport-style photos.

How to File
To apply for an emergency travel document, you must file Form I-131, Application for a Travel Document, complete with supporting documentation, photos and applicable fees (see link to the right). See the application for specific filing instructions.

Where to File
Where to file the Form I-131 depends on the benefit sought. See the form instruction page for details. Your local office may accept an emergency advance parole application if you are experiencing an extremely urgent situation. Business trips, weddings, holiday parties, and other planned events would usually not be considered an emergency situation. If you are filing Form I-131 for an emergency travel document at your local office based on an extremely urgent situation, you are encouraged to make an Infopass appointment first. See link to the right, "Make an Appointment (Infopass)."



I think there is. A friend of mine was in a similar situation. He had a family emergency back home and did not get his AP. So, he called the customer service center and explained his situation. Not sure which level he spoke to, but they took his details and expedited his application. He got his AP in a week. You might want to try that.

Nishant - I think it is not legal to send AP approval documents to a person who is outside the country. Not 100% sure though.

[qblogfan]

I think you can wait for the next VB. If you live in a big city, you should have no problem to get medical done on time. At the same time, you can look for your old immunization records and old immigration paper work if you have, also search for civil surgeon around your area. Once the next VB is out, make your move quickly.

Again, it's just my personal opinion. Myself is in a similar situation, so good luck to all of us!



Thanks qblogfan. one the same note should I get my medicals done this month itself rather than wait until VB is out .

[evoori]

nishant..
I am in similar situation.. my birth was registered in 2007.. are you going to submit the school leaving certificate with I-485 or keep it with you in case of RFE..??

Does anyone know, do we need to submit copies of all I-20s or not ? and copies of all pages of passport or just with US visas?
I am going to submit I-485 myself and trying to find out if too much of document is ok with USCIS or is it inviting trouble ?


My wife has similar issue. I asked lawyer, he told me it's nothing to worry about, and he asked to provide high school leaving certificate as backup.

Per him, in fact, affidavit is not needed, if have secondary evidence like above. I am just preparing affidavits in advance to keep just in worst case, but lawyer is not asking or going to submit them.

[nishant2200]

Lawyer is going to submit school leaving certificate with I-485. I am keeping affidavit ready with me in case of RFE, lawyer doesnt want it.

From what I have researched about I-20, the latest-last one is the most needed, any others you have is good. If you don't have any I-20, I would provide copies of student visa and the university transcript. I would also call university international student office and request I-20 records. If they can't find them, ask them to write a letter to you, that you requested your I-20 records, but they could not locate them as they don't store records older than n number of years. Also it would be great to provide a copy of the OPT card, front and back.

Passport pages, I have not yet asked lawyer, I don't want to bug him too much before I am current, but from what I know, lawyers are asking for all pages of passport. This is basically more for FBI check I believe, they would like to see your travel history.


nishant..
I am in similar situation.. my birth was registered in 2007.. are you going to submit the school leaving certificate with I-485 or keep it with you in case of RFE..??

Does anyone know, do we need to submit copies of all I-20s or not ? and copies of all pages of passport or just with US visas?
I am going to submit I-485 myself and trying to find out if too much of document is ok with USCIS or is it inviting trouble ?

[shivarajan]

Any forum member who did the medical chore anywhere in WA state?
Please chime in!

[nishant2200]

btw, I found this link:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/downloads/adult/mmwr-adult-schedule.pdf

good to know

[leo07]

you can find the doctors in your zip code from here:
https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=offices.type&OfficeLocator.office_type=CIV

These Doctors from CIS website will have all the information/forms for your vaccinations. They will provide you a copy of the report and a sealed envelope that you will need to send to CIS as it is.

[Sandeep2011]

Dear friends, I received my birth certificate from India today and it is in Hindi. Have any of you had the experience with getting the birth certificate translated here? Any guidance on this will be most welcome.

Thanks.

[nishant2200]

Dear friends, I received my birth certificate from India today and it is in Hindi. Have any of you had the experience with getting the birth certificate translated here? Any guidance on this will be most welcome.

Thanks.

Anyone can translate it for you apart from the beneficiaries i.e. you and your wife (assuming you are married :) )

He just needs to write down at the bottom and sign it, following is from USCIS website. I have got this done for my wife's school leaving certificate by my friend.

Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.

The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:

Certification by Translator

I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.

Signature_________________________________
Date Typed Name
Address

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=fe529c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=ff053d146a7ee010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCRD

I am going to move this post and above your to the birth certificate related issues in a few hours after if anyone else wants to reply has replied.

[Sandeep2011]

Thanks Nishant.



UOTE=nishant2200;11174]Anyone can translate it for you apart from the beneficiaries i.e. you and your wife (assuming you are married :) )

He just needs to write down at the bottom and sign it, following is from USCIS website. I have got this done for my wife's school leaving certificate by my friend.

Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.

The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:

Certification by Translator

I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.

Signature_________________________________
Date Typed Name
Address

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=fe529c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=ff053d146a7ee010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCRD

I am going to move this post and above your to the birth certificate related issues in a few hours after if anyone else wants to reply has replied.[/QUOTE]

[Sandeep2011]

If TB is cured then chest x-ray should not show positive results. Just in case someone still gets diagnosed with TB, one has to go through a full treatment for TB. I found some useful information at following link -

http://www.immihelp.com/greencard/adjustmentofstatus/medical-examination.html

I am sure there are more details available on USCIS website.



Can someone please respond to this?
Based on website if someone had TB in past the skin test will always show positive. Will chest x-ray also show results positive?
What are the options in such cases.

[ct06511]

Anyone can translate it for you apart from the beneficiaries i.e. you and your wife (assuming you are married :) )

He just needs to write down at the bottom and sign it, following is from USCIS website. I have got this done for my wife's school leaving certificate by my friend.

Please submit certified translations for all foreign language documents. The translator must certify that s/he is competent to translate and that the translation is accurate.

The certification format should include the certifier's name, signature, address, and date of certification. A suggested format is:

Certification by Translator

I [typed name], certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and ________ languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the document attached entitled ______________________________.

Signature_________________________________
Date Typed Name
Address

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=fe529c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=ff053d146a7ee010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCRD

I am going to move this post and above your to the birth certificate related issues in a few hours after if anyone else wants to reply has replied.

nishant2200, do you know if USCIS clearly indicated that you cannot certify your own translation? If you are allowed to certify true copies (google fc-029) on your own, why not translation? Some people say you can certify your own translation.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/223769-what-kind-of-translation-does-uscis-require/

Any official clarification? Thanks!

[gc0907]

Guys,
I recently got my medicals. I will be current in Nov. I have blogged it here in case if someone is looking for some recent experience.
Recent Medical Experience (http://bit.ly/pde1VI)

Thanks.

[mysati]

I have a couple of questions related to vaccination. Can someone please help?

1. I do not have records for MMR and Chickenpox vaccine. I took MMR before I came to the US for the first time and I had Chickenpox when I was a child. Should I do the lab tests to confirm that the antibodies are there and take the report before I go to the Civil Surgeon?

2. Can I go to the lab myself and ask for them to test for these or should I get a Doctor's reference?

3. I am allergic to flu shots and cannot take them. Will the Civil Surgeon be okay with this, if I tell them? Has anyone faced a similar situation?

I'd appreciate any help, in this regard.

[gc0907]

1: Yes, get the antibodies report before you go to civil surgeon to save time and hassel . I had to get it recently. Read my last post.

2: I don't think lab will do that. You will need a document from doctor mentioning what and all needs to be tested.

3: When you go to regular physician for antibody test reference, let him/her know and ask if you can get that thing in written. I prefer stuff in written than just verbal.


I have a couple of questions related to vaccination. Can someone please help?

1. I do not have records for MMR and Chickenpox vaccine. I took MMR before I came to the US for the first time and I had Chickenpox when I was a child. Should I do the lab tests to confirm that the antibodies are there and take the report before I go to the Civil Surgeon?

2. Can I go to the lab myself and ask for them to test for these or should I get a Doctor's reference?

3. I am allergic to flu shots and cannot take them. Will the Civil Surgeon be okay with this, if I tell them? Has anyone faced a similar situation?

I'd appreciate any help, in this regard.

[gc0907]

Thanks Q.
I have stated a new thread here: I-693-Medical-Exam-and-Vaccinations-when-applying-for-Green-Card-(I-485)
(http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?222-I-693-Medical-Exam-and-Vaccinations-when-applying-for-Green-Card-(I-485)&p=11202#post11202)

gc0907 kudos to you. A lot of people go through medicals but very few people write it down so well for others!
Why don't you create a new thread in the same location as vaccination. You can either reproduce the whole article or simply include the link.
I think that will keep it visible forever and help a lot of people.

[mysati]

Thank you gc0907! That was very helpful.


1: Yes, get the antibodies report before you go to civil surgeon to save time and hassel . I had to get it recently. Read my last post.

2: I don't think lab will do that. You will need a document from doctor mentioning what and all needs to be tested.

3: When you go to regular physician for antibody test reference, let him/her know and ask if you can get that thing in written. I prefer stuff in written than just verbal.

[ChampU]

gc0907 kudos to you. A lot of people go through medicals but very few people write it down so well for others!
Why don't you create a new thread in the same location as vaccination. You can either reproduce the whole article or simply include the link.
I think that will keep it visible forever and help a lot of people.


Can the immunization and medical exam process be done, before the priority date is current? What is the duration, for which the records are valid?

[TeddyKoochu]

Can the immunization and medical exam process be done, before the priority date is current? What is the duration, for which the records are valid?

Immunization records are valid for 10 years and the form I693 is valid for a year.
DT Vaccine - Requirement is within the last 10 years.
MMR - 2 doses required.
Varicella - If you have had chicken pox in your childhood you are fine.

Also do note that if your wife is of child bearing age there are restrictions especially on the MMR vaccine because these are live viruses this what the civil surgeon I went told me. Also during maternity in USA he said typically they do test for antibodies for MMR and DT, try to see if you can get hold of those records if your children were born here.

[pch053]

To the best of my knowledge, the records are valid for up to 1 year from the date of the medical tests.

[psczd4]

Can someone please respond to this?
Based on website if someone had TB in past the skin test will always show positive. Will chest x-ray also show results positive?
What are the options in such cases.

gcdedo:
Couple of years ago, I was diagnosed with TB (not contagious) and took treatment. Upon completion, my then doctor gave me a document explaining the treatment and medication I under went and mentioned that the future Skin test be positive.
This Wednesday, I went for my medical examination and showed my TB treatment document. The civil surgeon looked at that and ordered for a Chest X-ray instead of the Skin test. The X-ray was clear but prescribed me with MMR and Flu shot. She also attached the treatment document along with the I693 form. Hope this helps!

[mysati]

I have an issue with my birth certificate. Can anyone please let me know if I need any affidavits?

My name, in my birth certificate (bc), is listed as,

Baby's Name: FirstName1 alias FirstName2 (e.g.) Raj alias Shiva

My FirstName1 (Raj) has never been used anywhere else in my life. My firstname for all practical purposes and records is 'Siva'. I use the South Indian spelling (Siva) rather than the North Indian spelling (Shiva) which is listed in my birth certificate.

My last name is not listed on my bc. Being a South Indian, I use my father's first name as my last name. My father's name is listed in my bc (under that category).

My 'Board Exam' certificates are also only in the format <Firstname> . <Initial of last name - not expanded>.

Under these circumstances, do I need an affidavit?

[tackle]

I have an issue with my birth certificate. Can anyone please let me know if I need any affidavits?

My name, in my birth certificate (bc), is listed as,

Baby's Name: FirstName1 alias FirstName2 (e.g.) Raj alias Shiva

My FirstName1 (Raj) has never been used anywhere else in my life. My firstname for all practical purposes and records is 'Siva'. I use the South Indian spelling (Siva) rather than the North Indian spelling (Shiva) which is listed in my birth certificate.

My last name is not listed on my bc. Being a South Indian, I use my father's first name as my last name. My father's name is listed in my bc (under that category).

My 'Board Exam' certificates are also only in the format <Firstname> . <Initial of last name - not expanded>.

Under these circumstances, do I need an affidavit?

I think names (Given name/Parents names) are something that could be rectified on BC with some effort. It is not going to be easy, though. Based on personal experience, even to get the spelling mistake in my wife's name fixed, my in-laws had to provide several documents and notarized letters. But they could be fixed.

So, given that we could get the name issue fixed on BC, I'd recommend getting the spelling mistake (Shiva/Siva) fixed on the BC. And, if you are going to get that fixed, if you feel that having "Raj" listed under given-name is a risk, then maybe you could try and get that removed?

In my case, my lawyers asked me to get the spelling error on my wife's name fixed. But they were OK with our parent's names being initialized. They were OK with given names listing only the "First name".

So, I'd suggest talking to your lawyers first and get their opinions before asking your parents back home to run around trying to get things fixed on BC. Even if you decide to get Affidavits, check with your lawyer and see if they'd include them in the application packet if you get them. In most cases, Lawyers would include only things that they think are needed. So, if you get affidavits and they lawyers do not include them, then it'll be a waste.

These are just my thoughts on this. Don't take my word for it. Discuss with your lawers and use your best judgement.

[mysati]

Thanks a lot 'Tackle'!
I will check with my lawyer too.

[jsr0101]

Guys,

I don't have birth certificate and I got affidavits from my parents in hand and filed for non-availability certificate ( I will get this anytime this week). But my paralegal said she only needs *copies* of affidavits and no need for non-availability certificate. I am little skeptical on this.

Any ideas ?

[tackle]

Guys,

I don't have birth certificate and I got affidavits from my parents in hand and filed for non-availability certificate ( I will get this anytime this week). But my paralegal said she only needs *copies* of affidavits and no need for non-availability certificate. I am little skeptical on this.

Any ideas ?

That doesn't sound right.

From I-485 instructions (http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485instr.pdf):


Birth Certificate

Submit a copy of your foreign birth certificate or other record of your birth that meets the provisions of secondary evidence found in Title 8, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), 103.2(b)(2).

From Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), 103.2(b)(2) (http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-11185/0-0-0-11549/0-0-0-11565.html#0-0-0-9261):


(b) Evidence and processing .

(1) Demonstrating eligibility at time of filing.

An applicant or petitioner must establish that he or she is eligible for the requested benefit at the time of filing the application or petition. All required application or petition forms must be properly completed and filed with any initial evidence required by applicable regulations and/or the form's instructions. Any evidence submitted in connection with the application or petition is incorporated into and considered part of the relating application or petition. (Revised effective 6/18/07; 72 FR 19100 )

(2) Submitting secondary evidence and affidavits.

(i) General . The non-existence or other unavailability of required evidence creates a presumption of ineligibility. If a required document, such as a birth or marriage certificate, does not exist or cannot be obtained, an applicant or petitioner must demonstrate this and submit secondary evidence, such as church or school records, pertinent to the facts at issue. If secondary evidence also does not exist or cannot be obtained, the applicant or petitioner must demonstrate the unavailability of both the required docum ent and relevant secondary evidence, and submit two or more affidavits, sworn to or affirmed by persons who are not parties to the petition who have direct personal knowledge of the event and circumstances. Secondary evidence must overcome the unavailability of primary evidence, and affidavits must overcome the unavailability of both primary and secondary evidence.

(ii) Demonstrating that a record is not available . Where a record does not exist, the applicant or petitioner must submit an original written statement on government letterhead establishing this from the relevant government or other authority. The statement must indicate the reason the record does not exist, and indicate whether similar records for the time and place are available. However, a certification from an appropriate foreign government that a document does not exist is not required where the Department of State's Foreign Affairs Manual indicat es this type of document generally does not exist. An applicant or petitioner who has not been able to acquire the necessary document or statement from the relevant foreign authority may submit evidence that repeated good faith attempts were made to obtain the required document or statement. However, where USCIS finds that such documents or statements are generally available, it may require that the applicant or petitioner submit the required document or statement. (Amended effective 6/18/07; 72 FR 19100 )



You could send this information to your paralegal and ask them to take a look at it and clarify if you still do not need a non-availability certificate.

[jsr0101]

Thanks for the links! I will let her know this one.

[kd2008]

I got my birth certificate reissued in India - in one week. My original birth certificate did not have my full name, just my first name.

The new one is bilingual - native language and English. All of it - names, dates, location, issuing authority etc. It is very well done.

I showed my new one to my attorney and she approved it saying it satisfies all the requirements.

They can be found here:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3195.html#certificates

The certificate must contain the:

Your date of birth
Your place of birth
Names of both parents
Indication by the appropriate authority that it is an extract from the official records

Country Specific:
For India at http://travel.state.gov/visa/fees/fees_5455.html?cid=9215#docs

The date of "birth registration" needs to be within a year of birth. Thankfully mine was done within 2 weeks.

The date of issuing the birth certificate does not matter.

[gc0907]

kd2008,

In India, I don't think getting a birth certificate these days should be an issue. At least in cities, I am not sure of villages or talukas.

If you know the hospital where you were born, then they should have a record as well.
If I recall it correct, my original birth certifate didn't have my original name and was in my regional language. But my father submitted my original certificate to our local Municipal Corporation, along with I think school leaving and passport copy and they gave a Certified Copy (equivalent to original) and yest it's bilingual too.

They charged I think something less than Rs.100 and their processing time was about 7-10 days. And now if I loose this copy and want to get new one, they can re-issue for a nomial fee in a week.

Though late, they have got some sense now.

[red2green]

Guys,
Got my medicals done and blogged my experience here (http://bit.ly/pde1VI).
Hope it helps someone.

The civil surgeon(CS) that I attended didn't really check whole lot of things that you mentioned in your blog, which is making me a bit nervous.
I don't have any vaccine record/medical history with me. The CS mentioned that is fine as they would be conducting blood test to determine which vaccines I need.
The 1st day at CS office,
1) Td shot - I asked for Tdap but CS said either(Td/Tdap) one of them is fine and Tdap is not commonly administered in US.
2) Skin test for TB
3) Took blood samples

The 2nd visit,
1) TB skin test cleared - only 1 mm
2) Influenza Vaccine
3) Blood test results out - I am already immune so I don't have to take other vaccines.( I am 32 and based on CDC website age chart I need only - Td/Tdap,varicella,MMR & influenza).
4) I was told nothing else needs to be done and asked me to come today/tomorrow to verify 693 form and sign it and collect the docs.

Apart from CS, I didn't see any PCP or other docs. It was so simple that left me wondering if any thing missing

Can Gurus/others who went through the process please let me know if I should get anything else done( I still have time)..Thanks

[nishant2200]

I am not current yet, but the CS I finalized, told me exact similar strategy, my age group also is same as you. So I would not panic.


The civil surgeon(CS) that I attended didn't really check whole lot of things that you mentioned in your blog, which is making me a bit nervous.
I don't have any vaccine record/medical history with me. The CS mentioned that is fine as they would be conducting blood test to determine which vaccines I need.
The 1st day at CS office,
1) Td shot - I asked for Tdap but CS said either(Td/Tdap) one of them is fine and Tdap is not commonly administered in US.
2) Skin test for TB
3) Took blood samples

The 2nd visit,
1) TB skin test cleared - only 1 mm
2) Influenza Vaccine
3) Blood test results out - I am already immune so I don't have to take other vaccines.( I am 32 and based on CDC website age chart I need only - Td/Tdap,varicella,MMR & influenza).
4) I was told nothing else needs to be done and asked me to come today/tomorrow to verify 693 form and sign it and collect the docs.

Apart from CS, I didn't see any PCP or other docs. It was so simple that left me wondering if any thing missing

Can Gurus/others who went through the process please let me know if I should get anything else done( I still have time)..Thanks

[needid]

CS typically asks you to go to PCP to get boold test and vaccines done as it might be paid by Insurance under preventive care.So it works cheaper, that is the only reason to go to two different places. If cost not different or does not matter CS can take care of everything( no need of PCP).


The civil surgeon(CS) that I attended didn't really check whole lot of things that you mentioned in your blog, which is making me a bit nervous.
I don't have any vaccine record/medical history with me. The CS mentioned that is fine as they would be conducting blood test to determine which vaccines I need.
The 1st day at CS office,
1) Td shot - I asked for Tdap but CS said either(Td/Tdap) one of them is fine and Tdap is not commonly administered in US.
2) Skin test for TB
3) Took blood samples

The 2nd visit,
1) TB skin test cleared - only 1 mm
2) Influenza Vaccine
3) Blood test results out - I am already immune so I don't have to take other vaccines.( I am 32 and based on CDC website age chart I need only - Td/Tdap,varicella,MMR & influenza).
4) I was told nothing else needs to be done and asked me to come today/tomorrow to verify 693 form and sign it and collect the docs.

Apart from CS, I didn't see any PCP or other docs. It was so simple that left me wondering if any thing missing

Can Gurus/others who went through the process please let me know if I should get anything else done( I still have time)..Thanks

[vizcard]

The civil surgeon(CS) that I attended didn't really check whole lot of things that you mentioned in your blog, which is making me a bit nervous.
I don't have any vaccine record/medical history with me. The CS mentioned that is fine as they would be conducting blood test to determine which vaccines I need.
The 1st day at CS office,
1) Td shot - I asked for Tdap but CS said either(Td/Tdap) one of them is fine and Tdap is not commonly administered in US.
2) Skin test for TB
3) Took blood samples

The 2nd visit,
1) TB skin test cleared - only 1 mm
2) Influenza Vaccine
3) Blood test results out - I am already immune so I don't have to take other vaccines.( I am 32 and based on CDC website age chart I need only - Td/Tdap,varicella,MMR & influenza).
4) I was told nothing else needs to be done and asked me to come today/tomorrow to verify 693 form and sign it and collect the docs.

Apart from CS, I didn't see any PCP or other docs. It was so simple that left me wondering if any thing missing

Can Gurus/others who went through the process please let me know if I should get anything else done( I still have time)..Thanks

I'm not sure why he/she said that they don't administer TDAP in the US. I got mine done last year as part of an annual physical.

[gc0907]

I got Tdap and not sure if it was because this was my second dose of vaccine for Tetanus. I got my first one couple years back in India.

Since your blood test results says you are immune and don't require the vaccines that is sufficient proof.
If you got the copy of I693 form signed by CS, then look on page 4(#5 Vaccinations). See what he has mentioned for each vaccines listed.
Mostly there will be an entry in Date Received / or lab results or Not Age Appropriate.

At the end of the list in Results he should have checked:"Vaccination history complete for each vaccine, all requirements met."



The civil surgeon(CS) that I attended didn't really check whole lot of things that you mentioned in your blog, which is making me a bit nervous.
I don't have any vaccine record/medical history with me. The CS mentioned that is fine as they would be conducting blood test to determine which vaccines I need.
The 1st day at CS office,
1) Td shot - I asked for Tdap but CS said either(Td/Tdap) one of them is fine and Tdap is not commonly administered in US.
2) Skin test for TB
3) Took blood samples

The 2nd visit,
1) TB skin test cleared - only 1 mm
2) Influenza Vaccine
3) Blood test results out - I am already immune so I don't have to take other vaccines.( I am 32 and based on CDC website age chart I need only - Td/Tdap,varicella,MMR & influenza).
4) I was told nothing else needs to be done and asked me to come today/tomorrow to verify 693 form and sign it and collect the docs.

Apart from CS, I didn't see any PCP or other docs. It was so simple that left me wondering if any thing missing

Can Gurus/others who went through the process please let me know if I should get anything else done( I still have time)..Thanks

[gc0907]

I am wondering if moderators can move the posts related to Vaccinations under one of these threads:

http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?163-Vaccinations
Or
http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?222-I-693-Medical-Exam-and-Vaccinations-when-applying-for-Green-Card-(I-485)

[mysati]

Hi Tackle (or anyone else with similar info),

Can you please provide info on,

1. What documents are required to correct the spelling errors in the bc?

2. Should we go to any specific govt. authority who has jurisdication over the place of birth to get the bc corrected, in India? The reason being, I was born in a city different and far away from where my parents reside now and I am not sure how they can get it from my place of birth.

3. If jurisdiction does not matter, does a general statement from my parents (notarized by any Notary Public) suffice?

4. Is there a specific template used for spelling correction? If so, can you please provide it as well?

Thanks for the help.


I think names (Given name/Parents names) are something that could be rectified on BC with some effort. It is not going to be easy, though. Based on personal experience, even to get the spelling mistake in my wife's name fixed, my in-laws had to provide several documents and notarized letters. But they could be fixed.

So, given that we could get the name issue fixed on BC, I'd recommend getting the spelling mistake (Shiva/Siva) fixed on the BC. And, if you are going to get that fixed, if you feel that having "Raj" listed under given-name is a risk, then maybe you could try and get that removed?

In my case, my lawyers asked me to get the spelling error on my wife's name fixed. But they were OK with our parent's names being initialized. They were OK with given names listing only the "First name".

So, I'd suggest talking to your lawyers first and get their opinions before asking your parents back home to run around trying to get things fixed on BC. Even if you decide to get Affidavits, check with your lawyer and see if they'd include them in the application packet if you get them. In most cases, Lawyers would include only things that they think are needed. So, if you get affidavits and they lawyers do not include them, then it'll be a waste.

These are just my thoughts on this. Don't take my word for it. Discuss with your lawers and use your best judgement.

[rdsingh79]

I have one original copy of Birth certificate with me. Are we required to submit original copy or a photocopy is suffice?

[kd2008]

I have one original copy of Birth certificate with me. Are we required to submit original copy or a photocopy is suffice?

Never ever give your original to any one. Got it?

[beeooh]

Hi ,

During the process of applying for Adjustment of status, birth certificate needs to be produced. And I don't have one.
But I have an affidavit from Indian Consulate Houston, Texas stating the facts usually presented on a birth certificate.
Is the affidavit along with Xth school certificate enough ? If not please advise.

Thanks

[nishant2200]

I have one original copy of Birth certificate with me. Are we required to submit original copy or a photocopy is suffice?

photocopy is to be given. in fact my lawyer don't even give color copy.

[veni001]

Hi ,

During the process of applying for Adjustment of status, birth certificate needs to be produced. And I don't have one.
But I have an affidavit from Indian Consulate Houston, Texas stating the facts usually presented on a birth certificate.
Is the affidavit along with Xth school certificate enough ? If not please advise.

Thanks

Beeooh,
Birth certificates/affidavits issued by consulates abroad are not recognized by USCIS.

Either you need birth certificate issued by the authorities from home country or get Certificate of non availability and affidavits from parents/relatives.

[mygctracker]

I got my TDAP shot last week at my PCP office on regular visit.


The civil surgeon(CS) that I attended didn't really check whole lot of things that you mentioned in your blog, which is making me a bit nervous.
I don't have any vaccine record/medical history with me. The CS mentioned that is fine as they would be conducting blood test to determine which vaccines I need.
The 1st day at CS office,
1) Td shot - I asked for Tdap but CS said either(Td/Tdap) one of them is fine and Tdap is not commonly administered in US.
2) Skin test for TB
3) Took blood samples

The 2nd visit,
1) TB skin test cleared - only 1 mm
2) Influenza Vaccine
3) Blood test results out - I am already immune so I don't have to take other vaccines.( I am 32 and based on CDC website age chart I need only - Td/Tdap,varicella,MMR & influenza).
4) I was told nothing else needs to be done and asked me to come today/tomorrow to verify 693 form and sign it and collect the docs.

Apart from CS, I didn't see any PCP or other docs. It was so simple that left me wondering if any thing missing

Can Gurus/others who went through the process please let me know if I should get anything else done( I still have time)..Thanks

[beeooh]

Thank You Veni.

I just found the following website which can help one find birth registration details. I just found mine.

http://india.gov.in/howdo/index.php

-Select the state,
- Keyword field enter Birth certificate
-follow the prompts.

I found my registration details, this info might make things easier while applying for BC. I wished, they allowed online services.

[mysati]

Hi Guys,

Can you please answer my questions below? - The link provided (http://india.gov.in/howdo/index.php) does not seem to provide info on corrections to certificates.

1. What documents are required to correct the spelling errors in the bc?

2. Should we go to any specific govt. authority who has jurisdication over the place of birth to get the bc corrected, in India? The reason being, I was born in a city different and far away from where my parents reside now and I am not sure how they can get it from my place of birth.

3. If jurisdiction does not matter, does a general statement from my parents (notarized by any Notary Public) suffice?

4. Is there a specific template used for spelling correction? If so, can you please provide it as well? - Nishant, I looked at the templates you provided earlier in the forum but I am not sure, if they can be used for spelling corrections as well. Can you please throw some light?

Thanks for the help.